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Re: Max Speed with a QSI, Version 6 (Seeking enlightenment)
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Oh I trust you.? I was just making a suggestion to see if the speed table issue could be figured out or resolved. Then he can do what he pleases.
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Dave, It depends.
Reading thru the three existing? DecoderPro definition file for MTH . Early version decoder was Reset : CV55 = 55 on program track only The next decoder revision has this : In OPS MODE ONLY? (Program on Main mode) Reset All CV's : CV8 = 8 Reset ALL CV's except Speed Table : CV8 = 192 Reset Volumes, Smoke, and Lioght settings: CV8 =64 Reset Address : CV8 = 128 On Program Track only (Service Mode) RESET? all CV's : CV55 = 55 Marc |
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Re: Max Speed with a QSI, Version 6 (Seeking enlightenment)
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Nick
Marc, I've worked with them since they have been around. Trust me, the instability makes setting them up, just not worth the effort if they do not get upgraded. One short circuit and they revert to defaults and only last as long as the next short. Nick Kulp "I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals" - Nick Kulp
On Monday, December 2, 2019, 01:03:12 PM EST, <forfoum@...> wrote:
Strangly ALL the QSI Ver 6 definitions in DecoderPro contain? Speed Table option. Even the older pre-V6 definitions contain Speed Table. As per QSI manual : http://qsindustries.com/manuals/full%20dcc%20manual.pdf If CV5 = 0, 1 or 255 the value used for any calculation is 255.? This also affect all? Speed Table and User Defined Speed Table. So if you want to lower top speed, set CV5 =2 thru 255 " CV 5 sets a maximum voltage for the motor to any value between 2 and 255. A value of 0, 1, or 255 provides maximum motor voltage at maximum throttle. " So setting CV5 =217 would apply 85% of full available power.? A value of 128 in CV5 would be 50% power. Marc |
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开云体育Hey Bob,?Look for the Proto 3 sound labeling on the box or write up Dave In PA Sent from iPhone Xs Max On Dec 2, 2019, at 08:59, Bob McClain via Groups.Io <mcclainbob55@...> wrote:
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Video7105
开云体育I guess it’s Foot in the mouth, since it’s a non signer of this post.?Of course your CV8 comment doesn’t work. ?To reset a MTH decoder, you choose address 55 and then CV55 and a value of 55. ?This must be done on the main, not program track. If you want to reset a MTH decoder I have never had a problem reading the programmable ?CV’s using Decoder Pro, using program mode.? More fake news am myths, that plagued MTH, in forums.? Now if you are a guy or woman, not sure with no signature, that needs the DCC sounds of toilets flushing etc. Then MTH in DCC mode isn’t for you Dave In PA Sent from iPhone Xs Max On Dec 2, 2019, at 14:09, fcot2002@... wrote:
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Re: False "Online" with DecoderPro
Not a problem with Digitrax, it is a problem with JMRI who does not poll and confirm the Digitrax Command Station is present or not ,for what reason I do not know.?
I have a Locobuffer-USB, Digitrax PR3, PR4, Locobuffer-Serial and none of them cause me grief for as long as I have had them. They all connect to either of my two DCS100's or Zephyr on demand with the proper setup. And I have jumped and leapped between Windows versions and JMRI versions back and forth. I was simply pointing out that a wrong setup in JMRI? can lead you down a wrong trail. Heck if you define? System Manufacturer as "NONE" and System Connection as "No connection" in Preferences, both Service and OPS mode programming show up GREEN (JMRI 4.17.6). Marc? |
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Re: False "Online" with DecoderPro
开云体育I agree this is a problem with Digitrax.? I tried for 5 weeks to get past the 306 error with my PR3 and could never do it despite the green indicators on the bottom of the page (and all the sage advice from those of you on this forum).? I also could never get the Digitrax software drivers to associate with the C0M port so eventually I gave up and bought an NCE Power Cab and USB interface.? The driver downloaded, associated with COM 4 immediately, and the system has worked like a charm ever since. ? Jim ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] False "Online" with DecoderPro ? If that system is running a JRMI version prior to 4.17.x, update date it,? There were several issues with PREFERENCES and DEFAULTS. |
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Re: False "Online" with DecoderPro
If that system is running a JRMI version prior to 4.17.x, update date it,? There were several issues with PREFERENCES and DEFAULTS.
What is nice about JMRi and NCE is that the NCE system is polled for a response and will eventualy time out if no response then both Service mode and OPS mode will go from GREEN to RED as unavailable This is not the case with several other systems.? Other systems, as long as the Com port is valid (and present), they are happy even thou nothing might be at end of cable.? The indications will be GREEN.? Perfect example is JMRI and Digitrax. the Command Station is not polled.? Set Preferences to a valid port that, unfortunately, does not have the Command Station at the end of it, you get all GREEN to go indications and 306 errors, Marc |
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Re: Max Speed with a QSI, Version 6 (Seeking enlightenment)
#speedprofiling
Strangly ALL the QSI Ver 6 definitions in DecoderPro contain? Speed Table option. Even the older pre-V6 definitions contain Speed Table.
As per QSI manual : http://qsindustries.com/manuals/full%20dcc%20manual.pdf If CV5 = 0, 1 or 255 the value used for any calculation is 255.? This also affect all? Speed Table and User Defined Speed Table. So if you want to lower top speed, set CV5 =2 thru 255 " CV 5 sets a maximum voltage for the motor to any value between 2 and 255. A value of 0, 1, or 255 provides maximum motor voltage at maximum throttle. " So setting CV5 =217 would apply 85% of full available power.? A value of 128 in CV5 would be 50% power. Marc |
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Re: Max Speed with a QSI, Version 6 (Seeking enlightenment)
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In many cases, the new Decoder Buddy is a drop in for QSI OEM decoders.
Takes about 10 minutes to get the board in place. You then have a 21-pin motherboard. (I prefer Loksound, but works with any 21-pin decoder) Thomas DeSoto, TX |
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Re: Max Speed with a QSI, Version 6 (Seeking enlightenment)
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Nick and Dave,
Thank you for all the information. It has helped tremendously! I tend to prefer the SoundTraxx products so I'll take out the old decoder and update it with one of their's. Sincerely, Michael Boyle |
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Ray, Ignore the __MACOSX directory. The one you was is the CTC_Tutorial.jmri directory. ?This is a complete JMRI profile. I assume your are running Windows. ?C:\Users\<username>\JMRI normally contains all of the user content. ?Your default JMRI profile, My JMRI Railroad, will normally be located here. ?Move CTC_Tutorial.jmri to C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. If you have the profile selector enabled, the new profile will show up in the profile list. ?If you have not enabled the profile selector, start PanelPro with your default profile, go to Preferences >> Config Profiles. ?Select CTC Tutorial and click on Activate. ?When you save and re-start, the tutorial profile will be opened. Note: ?If you want to use the profile selector in the future, select the Show profile selector button at the bottom of the Config Profiles screen. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "coolerman10002003 via Groups.Io" <coolerman10002003@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] PanelPro CTC tools Date: Monday, December 02, 2019 4:20 AM Dave, You new file un-zips up as a "__MACOSX" file with no open-able files inside Ray Eiser |
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Sounds like the loss of power issue is a track issue, not a manufacture problem.....
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Happy with all my Proto 3 Sound Units , especially after doing their software updates Dave In PA Sent from iPhone Xs Max On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:58, Al <babinskya@...> wrote: |
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Bob, our club has two MTH locomotives one is an A-B-A F unit and the other a Milwaukee Road Bi-Polar. They respond to programming with Decoder-Pro but have one feature that can't be changed. In order for the sound and lights to be active you must push F3 prior to applying power to the motor. I contacted them and they told me that they would not change that feature. At any rate they run nice but if they stop due to loss of power and then start up again they run silent until you stop and click on F3 and start it again. Hope this helps,
Al Babinsky Sent from Xfinity Connect Application |
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Re: Inverted option grayed out in turnout table
I understand there are work arounds to get the turnout behavior that we seek.? Plan A was use the inverted option.? That will not work because the option is grayed out.? I am sure there is a Plan B and a Plan C. My original question was "Why is the inverted option grayed out?"? Is it an idiosyncrasy of LCC?
Dan K....... ARHS |
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Re: False "Online" with DecoderPro
After about 10 seconds that should change to red and say offline. It takes
that long for the system probe to timeout. If it stays online, check if the screen says simulator or not. Also check in preferences for the connection of simulator and in Defaults in case it has Internal selected. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.org www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Re: Max Speed with a QSI, Version 6 (Seeking enlightenment)
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Nick
Dave, Allow me to expand your knowledge a little more with "non-foklore" based on experience.? Picture this, You are in the middle of an op session with 15 friends. You are using a Digitrax system and have several OEM QSI version 6 decoder-equipped locos. As will happen, some operator runs an open switch, causes a short, and the session comes to a halt (Pre-PM42 days) . The offender "pulls" back the loco from the short area, The Digitrax system "reboots". (which feeds a heavy spike of PURE DC current onto the track because Digitrax older systems have a HUGE resonance frequency imbalance until they settle down.? Suddenly, ALL of the Version 6 locos take off at MACH 5 because the default settings include restoring the analog "conversion" to activate. Locos with strings of 20 hoppers with LIVE loads of coal, stones or ore literally FLY toward curves or through coal loading facilities or toward the sharpest curves not designed for high speed trains. (do NOT ask how I know this) . Cleanup will take DAYS as now there is coal, stones, and red ore everywhere that has been dumped by those trains. You also find locos in the turntable pit or smashed through the rear walls of the roundhouse because, it IS only plastic or wood. Some have even attempted to leap across the gap where you are using a gate or bridge to access the layout while someone needed to open it during this debacle. NOW you are talking about an exciting session where mere mortals have attempted to literally catch trains hell bent on self destruction. You BETCHA that I upgraded EVERY one of those suckers ASAP. Side note, Digitrax will sternly deny this problem as? they fixed it in later Boosters like the Zephyr but refused to upgrade older systems for FREE like their competitors . Have a good one, Nick Kulp "I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals" - Nick Kulp Michael and Nick, My comments in that JMRI support page were based on V7 QSI decoders (QSI documentation and owning a number). > > Trying to make the old chips work is like shoveling sand from the bottom of a hole. The original chip is unstable and a short circuit will usually reset them back to default CVs, which means that you will need to attempt to re-program them almost every time a short happens on the layout. That probably explains the "folklore" I've heard about QSI decoders. The only problems I've encountered have been accidental resets due to motor magnetic fields from a passing loco and the almost-universal fail-closed reed switch (solved with sidecutters). Dave in Australia |
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