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I tried a few things ...


1. First, I deleted everything from the "messages" log
2. I copied all my profiles to the C:\Users\Richard\JMRI directory (I use several)
3. I started Decoder Pro
4. I saw the WiThrottle Server window
5. I briefly saw the DP roster window
6. Then everything went blank


Here is the "messages" log file ...


2017-07-01 16:51:59,240 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2017-07-01 16:51:59,255 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:51:59,271 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:51:59,271 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.7.6+R570b2bc starts under Java 1.8.0_131 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Sat Jul 01 16:51:59 PDT 2017 [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:02,459 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile Basic_Profile.3e4fcecc [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:02,584 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-2C27D7392861-3e4fcecc as the JMRI Node identity [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:03,240 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter INFO - COM3 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true CD: false [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:04,084 server.WebServer INFO - Starting Web Server on port 12080 [WebServer]
2017-07-01 16:52:04,130 server.WebServer INFO - Starting ZeroConfService _http._tcp.local for Web Server with properties {path=/, json=4.0} [WebServer]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\Basic_Profile\ [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\Basic_Profile\ [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\ [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is C:\Users\Richard\ [main]
2017-07-01 16:52:05,349 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]


Thanks for all the great help from the group ... Richard

Here is the "session" log file from the last attempt to start JMRI ...


2017-07-01 16:42:57,564 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2017-07-01 16:42:57,580 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:42:57,580 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Richard\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2017-07-01 16:42:57,580 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.7.6+R570b2bc starts under Java 1.8.0_131 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Sat Jul 01 16:42:57 PDT 2017 [main]



I also tried Roberto's idea, but there were no "jogamp" services running.


Thanks for the help ...

Ah, so in theory I could use my MRC system to simply control trains and have other systems hooked up to the PC directly to control things like turnouts and signals. For some reason I thought everything on the layout had to go through the MRC system. Does everything communicate through the same bus wires that provides power to the track or some other system?

My goal is to have mainline switches and signals controlled from a computer, dispatcher CTC style, the DCC system itself only needs to control locomotives. Although being able to program decoders through JMRI decoder pro would be nice too.

First thing to do is go to Preferences->Roster->Programmer and set Format to Advanced and "Show Empty Programmer Tabs" off (unchecked).

It appears the Rolling Thunder definition only programs the Rolling Thunder upgrade part of the decoder. You will need to use the BLI Paragon Steam definitions to program the rest of the loco CVs.
--
Dave in Australia

/On 7/1/2017 2:03 PM, Gerald Michels gjmichels53@... [jmriusers]
wrote://
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/Is this normal for Rolling Thunder 2? Where is "elsewhere?" Using JMRI
ver. 4.6/

Rolling thunder is in Paragon 3 (P3) engines. The C&O L1 is a P3
engine. In JMRI you should be using the Paragon 3 tab. I'm not sure
what version 4.6 looks like but would suggest you up grade to 4.7.6. As
my only P3 engines are packed for travel I'm also not sure what the
additional "rolling thunder" tab is used for.

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Hi Jerry,
I have the same problem with the Rolling Thunder - I cannot find this at all in JMRI/DecoderPro with a Sprog.
From reading elsewhere it appears that you have to have a BLI system to access this.

This seems to confirm that the full effects are only available when using the BLI system
ThanksPhil H?Got a specific interest?
Model Scottish Railways? -
and the new files section -
Modelrail Exhibition - Glasgow? - www.modelrail-scotland.co.uk
Interested in DCC operation? -
Interested in Proto87 -
Interested in Guilford/PanAm Railroads? -?

From: "Gerald Michels gjmichels53@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017, 22:03
Subject: [jmriusers] Rolling Thunder 2 JMRI programming

I recently bought a Broadway Limited C&O L1, streamlined Hudson.? When I
try to use JMRI to program the locomotive, all of the pages in the
programmer(like speed tables, sound, lights, etc.), except the CV page,
state that no changes can be made from the respective page, but are found
elsewhere? Is this normal for Rolling Thunder 2? Where is "elsewhere?"

Using JMRI ver. 4.6

Thanks.

Jerry Michels


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I recently bought a Broadway Limited C&O L1, streamlined Hudson. When I
try to use JMRI to program the locomotive, all of the pages in the
programmer(like speed tables, sound, lights, etc.), except the CV page,
state that no changes can be made from the respective page, but are found
elsewhere Is this normal for Rolling Thunder 2? Where is "elsewhere?"

Using JMRI ver. 4.6

Thanks.

Jerry Michels

Oliver, In order to help, what type of connection(s) have you configured? What's your OS?
Have you set the editor to Turnouts and the intended connection?
Do you see the items State changing in the Turnout Table when you click its symbol on the Switchboard?


Egbert

Bob:

The Mac is in the "computer room" in there as well is my DCC++ experiment...

Yes that's good, High Sierra see the Arduino (Mega32) as as "cu.usbmodem"...

More as ambition and time allows.

Jim

Real Snow,



The MRC interfaces to JMRI ok. One issue to consider with signaling is the
need to have:

1. Some way to detect where trains are on the tracks.

2. Some way to know which direction the turnouts are set.

3. Some way to control some of the turnouts remotely.

4. Some way to set the signals.



I don't think MRC has anything for #1 and I'm not sure of #2. They do
directly support #3 and #4. So you may find you have to mix some other types
of interfaces to cover all the needs. One example would be a LocoBuffer and
some of the many interface boards from RR-CirKits. JMRI is just fine mixing
many different systems for different uses so this would work with your MRC
controlling the trains. There are a number of other systems out there for
the rest of your signaling needs and you should check around to see what
provides your needs bet.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Hello, I've had my MRC Prodigy Advanced 'squared' system for 8 years now and have been very happy with it. However I've only ever used the one base station and a single tethered controller. I got it because I like the controller and programing with it is easy as can be. I am starting a new larger layout and will be needing more than a single power district, and several controllers. I would also like to use JMRI to setup an automated signaling system along with block detection. I know MRC recently got a computer interface capability but will I be able to do all these things with an MRC system or will I just be constantly beating my head against the wall? I know a lot of people badmouth the MRC system but those same people have never used one before either.

My local group of model railroaders all seem to use Digitrax, and I sure it does everything i need and more but I don't like their controllers as well and I guess I like to be different, ha

Bob:

Not yet, the only test was a pair of USB to 232 and 485 standard dongles and they were happy with stock macOS... I need to relocate some pieces and parts to be sure all is well.

Jim

On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:15 AM, boomer1944@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

I take it that the Operations portion of JMRI has reached maturity with no new updates the last couple of years.

Not sure what you’re actually asking.

There are still lots of changes being made to the operations code. Here’s a list of what Dan Boudreau has been doing, for example:



Is there something specific you’re looking for?

Bob
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Operations continues to be upgraded and improved with every release.

Peter

I take it that the Operations portion of JMRI has reached maturity with no new updates the last couple of years.


Gordon Spalty

Hi guys, I loaded the test version 4.7.6+R570b2bc with Java 1.8.0_131 (en_GB), on Windows 10 64bit Version 1703 OS Build 15063.413.


Much improved in various ways, especially drop-down lists of objects from the editor in Panel Pro.


I do however have some problems.


1. Signal Mast orientation is getting lost over restarts.
1.1 Also, the default orientation on a crossover seems arbitraryily set.
1.2 Also right clicking on the mast icon to bring up the menu sometimes (often) doesn't work unless you avoid the light and click the leg...
2. I am getting flashing green/red mast aspects on a cross-over. I realize that there may be a conflict in the logic. What I had hoped was that if I could choose a route by setting a signal to green manually, but when it flashes, it seems the logic is not 'active' properly, nor can I click on it to set it to an aspect. Is there a way round this? Is there a definite reason for the flashing??
3. Had a problem loading panels after maybe adding logix or something in a test panel, but then worked ok - my layout also wont load....
4. I am not sure if I am saving properly - when I quit out it tells me to save configuration data... but doesn't saving panels do this anyway?? What is the correct procedure for updating configuration data please??
I think some logic is getting lost over saves probably as I am not doing this right. I will look at this further...


This all may not be the case in older versions...


I am very happy to test further updates / provide my panels (test ones are more useful - the larger layout may give people headaches!)


John

Running 4.7.6. I read a suggestion in another post to run
TurnOffXmlValidation.py before loading the panel and that works. Panel
will now load without the error.

Here are the offending lines:

<signalhead
class="jmri.implementation.configurexml.SE8cSignalHeadXml"
systemName="IH:SE8C:"LT419";"LT420"" userName="LH82">
<systemName>IH:SE8C:"LT419";"LT420"</systemName>
<userName>LH82</userName>
<turnoutname defines="low">LT419</turnoutname>
<turnoutname defines="high">LT420</turnoutname>
</signalhead>

On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:39 AM, jimalbanowski@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:


The public beta of the newest Mac OS came up Thursday. My "spare" Mac is now up on it and initial JMRI start is good, more as I test.

Thank you!

Did you need to (re-)load any hardware drivers before it would see the layout?

Bob
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Richard,



First thing is to look at the log file from starting JMRI. Since you aren't
getting a screen to interact with, you go to the files. Off the JMRI
directory under your username, ex c:&#92;Users&#92;Richard&#92;JMRI and then look for
the 'log' directory. The file session.log is the results of the last attempt
to start JMRI. You can read it with a simple text editor like Notepad. Doing
a cut/paste from that into a message for us would help.



The files message.log are a sequence of all your prior runs of JMRI. There
may be further clues in there, but the current session is the starting
point.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Hi.
I had a similar problem with my 64bit Windows 10 laptop. It was something
related to Java I suppose. Just open the task manager and look for services
that start with "jogamp"+a series of numbers. If they are there, try to
terminate them and the jurisdiction startup should resume. Hope it helps.

Roberto

Il 01 Lug 2017 01:13, "richard@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> ha scritto:

Is anyone else having this issue? After installing 4.7.5, I see the Java
logo, and then the JMRI logo, but then nothing. No error messages, nothing.
It just goes away.


So I tried 4.7.6, but get the same result. Then I tried 4.6 production
with same result. Next, I uninstalled Java and JMRI, wiped out the
directories, and rebooted. Installed 4.6 again but still no launch.


I am running Windows 10 Pro on a 64 bit machine, and I have had numerous
successful prior versions on this machine for years.


Any ideas?


Thanks,


Richard