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Dave in Australia

I always after setting all the CV on the individual screens and writing them to the decoder go to the screen that lists all the CVs and ask it to read back from the decoder just to make certain CVs have been written. Find there is an issue with an odd CV on TCS decoders that does not read/write properly all the time and it has to forced to change, either through persisiting with the program or doing it via the dcc handset.


Using an alternative similar decoder profile will be okay - as an example for a while their was no decoder profile for the Lenz Standard so I used the Lenz Silver profile - some CVs obviously could not be written as they did not exist in the decoder but no harm resulted. If you are wary read back all CVs as above and check them individually against the manual to be certain none are weird.


Mike

Joe,

I believe the TTX decoders were rebadged NCE decoders. I'd look for something of similar vintage and maybe form factor in the NCE definitions.

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"

---In jmriusers@..., <Joebrann@...> wrote :


2. I have a Tony Train Exchange RS-2 decoder that I installed in 2002 but
that decoder doesn't not show up on the decoder list nor to any of the TTX
decoders. Any suggestion of what to do would be appreciated

Joe, writing changes on sheet will write the changes you made on the sheet
on the screen. Writing changes on all sheets is handy if you make a lot of
changes on different sheets, such as if you changed values on the sound
sheet and the CV sheet and speed table sheet. You can make all the changes
you want on any pages, and then click write changes on all sheets. Just
makes things a bit easier than making a change on sheet one, writing that
sheet, then making changes on sheet two and writing that sheet.

Another thing you may want to do when you add a new locomotive to your
roster, once you have made all the changes you want to make, and written
the sheets, is to have DecoderPro read all sheets. That way, all of your
setting are saved by DecoderPro, and if you decoder looses its mind, you
can go to DecoderPro had have it rewrite everything to your locomotive.
Especially helpful if you do a lot of complicated changes from the factory
settings.

Jerry michels

I just started using Decoder Pro last night and am impressed with the
intuitiveness of the GUI and the consistency of the intuitiveness. I easily
rosterred my first engine/decoder last night an all went well. Thanks

But I still have some questions.

1. What is the difference between "Write changes on sheet" and Write
changes on all sheets"

Today I worked on getting two more engines/decoders installed into Decoder
Pro and ran into a few questions.

2. I have a Tony Train Exchange RS-2 decoder that I installed in 2002 but
that decoder doesn't not show up on the decoder list nor to any of the TTX
decoders. Any suggestion of what to do would be appreciated

3 Another decoder is a TCS MC2P-S1. I can only find a TCS MC2 decoder in
the list. For the purposes of Decoder Pro are these the same decoders?

thanks

Joe Brann
owner/chief engineer
Susquehanna Valley Line (HO-scale) _www.svl-rr.com_
()
Orlando, Florida

On Jun 22, 2017, at 2:55 AM, leo pesce lpescester@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

First apologies for my tirade about the new version. I could have been more
tactful.

Thanks.

But I’d like to address, again, a misapprehension you have, and perhaps others have:

On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:39 AM, leo pesce lpescester@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

I wish there was a better attention to detail when it comes to "whatever"
releases, ie. releasing versions that "break" a lot of stuff, in the
attempt to fix or improve something else.

We run _tens_ _of_ _thousands_ of tests on every release. The most recent release, for example, ran over 28,000 tests. Those were repeated on macOS, Windows and Linux; with and without attached screens; they include reading and checking over 150 different XML files from different JMRI versions with different panel configurations. We run these _every_ _time_ somebody proposes a change to the code. We also run tests on the results after each update to the code, not just on test releases. Many people have put huge effort into making making this automatic, and making sure that any problems found are fixed.

But clearly problems do sneak through. In large part, that’s why we have test releases.

Clearly, you think that “the developers” should do better so that test releases are perfect. But for large parts of JMRI, “the developers” is a misnomer: large parts of JMRI have _one_ person working on them. (Some have nobody working on them anymore, but they tend to not change hence not break)

Sometimes that person is really interested in code testing. Dan Boudreau, who’s written greater than 99% of the Operations code, is that way. There are hundreds of tests in that area to make sure that problems don’t get into test releases. The update I’m currently working on in the CTC area has more new lines in the tests than in the actual code. Several people who work on JMRI even write some of their tests before they write the code itself!

But not everybody is that way. Some features, like the NX Warrants you mentioned, have just one person working on it, and that person’s style is to spend most of their time on code changes. Sometimes, those changes break things away from the part that’s being worked on. With automated pre-written tests you can see that and fix them before the code goes out; without those, problems away from where the work is being done might not get noticed until users encounter them later in a release.

Note: it’s _absolutely_ _OK_ for people to work on JMRI code that way, because without encouraging & enabling that person to work in the style they find most efficient, you would never have had the feature in the first place.

But this means that we’ve only got about 1/3 of the code tested automatically.

So what to do? Test releases are created so people can contribute to JMRI by _testing_ them. And, when those tests find things, often/usually somebody will dig in and fix them.

So I agree with you that we need to pay “better attention to detail”. But the “we” in that sentence _specifically_ _includes_ _you_. When a test release comes out, _test_ the features you consider important. Do it in a safe environment, so you don’t have to "restage 35 trains manually”. Then, if you find something wrong, make a positive comment and help anybody who _volunteers_ to fix it.

Or even better: Provide some automated tests of the features that you think aren’t being tested enough before release.

It’s up to you. If you want to be able to use new features in JMRI, get involved in testing related changes as JMRI evolves so that production releases are clean. Or expect that you’ll be sticking with something that doesn’t have new features. Either approach should work pretty well.

Or you could stick with the misapprehension that you should never see a problem in a test release because “this here is cupcakes”. To me, that approach seems destined to make you repeatedly unhappy, but I guess everybody gets to pick their own hobby...

Bob

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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

If you have an NCE Power Cab system, it is possible that your system is being affected by a series of incorrectly-supplied cab bus transceiver chips that can lock up in certain power-up circumstances.

The symptom will be a stuck-on Cab Bus LED on your NCE USB, which may be able to be cleared by unplugging all Cab Bus cables from your Power Cab Panel (PCP) and trying different sequences of replugging the cables.

A permanent fix is a modification (by you or NCE) to your PCP. See this link for more information:
<>
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Dave in Australia

The maximum number of simultaneous trains that can be controlled by a Power Pro system is 250. If all 250 locos have non-zero speed, the command station will be continually sending speed commands to all 250 moving locos, as required by the DCC standard. But this will not affect the response time of an individual loco to a keypress or speed change since a changed speed command or function command to a particular loco will "jump the queue". Response time will only be affected if many users are making changes to speed or function state simultaneously.

All active NCE cabs are polled in a (not necessarily numerically ordered) sequence and even with the limit of 63 physical cabs and the case of all cabs having a status change to report, this polling loop takes no more than 275ms.

There is no limit to the number of JMRI cabs that can be connected (although the 250 simultaneously active locos limit still applies) and only speed changes or function state changes are transmitted, so response times are unlikely to be a problem.

Your WiFi router will limit the number of WiThrottle devices connected and this limit will depend on the router you purchase.
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Dave in Australia

Perry,

Before even considering whether the machine is capable of running JMRI (It probably is), you should get it running right.

From your description it sounds like some malware may have hijacked your browser. I'd start by disabling the browser from opening at startup and go from there with a good AV scan, MAB, etc. If it's infected too badly, nuke the drive and reinstall the OS.

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"



---In jmriusers@..., <texasperry@...> wrote :

Mike, my last comment may not have made any sense. The Dell XPS laptop kept locking up trying to open a web browser page. I have no idea why it was trying to load the page. But, it would lock up. I would go to task manager and it would say program not responding. I would click close and program and it would start right back up. I would like to upgrade this machine to be able to use win 10. It may be fine as is for JMRI. But I worry about it working with some of the new stuff coming out for DCC. I have not decided on using Digitrax or NCE on my layout. I have both systems now. I bought the power cab to use at my bench but may use it on my layout. Thanks againPerry

/On 6/23/2017 7:18 AM, Perry A Pollino texasperry@...
[jmriusers] wrote://
/

/The Dell XPS laptop kept locking up trying to open a web browser page.
I have no idea why it was trying to load the page. But, it would lock
up. I would go to task manager and it would say program not
responding. I would click close and program and it would start right
back up. /

I have similar problems but they pertain to internet speed, mainly
from a Hughes net connection. If you disconnect from the net and load
JMRI as the home page, what happens?

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Hi Perry,?
That's more than adequate to run JMRI..
Regards,?Stu...


Sent from my Samsung Note3

Mike, my last comment may not have made any sense. The Dell XPS laptop kept locking up trying to open a web browser page. I have no idea why it was trying to load the page. But, it would lock up. I would go to task manager and it would say program not responding. I would click close and program and it would start right back up. ?I would like to upgrade this machine to be able to use win 10. It may be fine as is for JMRI.?But I worry about it working with some of the new stuff coming out for DCC.?I have not decided on using Digitrax or NCE on my layout. I have both systems now. I bought the power cab to use at my bench but may use it on my layout. ?Thanks againPerry

From: "Perry texasperry@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Elementary question about system requirements

? Mike,
From what I can gather.
The laptop is a Dell XPS M1710. Model number on the back is PP05XB.
It has win7 ultimate.
200 Ghz processor
4 GB memory.
320 GB hard drive
GForce 7900 sound.
I can't get it to load my email keeps giving me stopped responding messages and script errors.
Thanks for advice in advance
Perry

On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Can you be more specific as to it's specs and the Dell model? Not only
could we then tell you if it will run, if you want or need to upgrade it I
could point you at the parts that will work for you.

Mike Piazza

On Jun 21, 2017 9:34 AM, "texasperry@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

I read the system requirements on JMRI site. I did not see anything about
memory or processor speed. Are there any minimum requirements.
My current machine is an old old Dell gaming computer I was given. I could
not load Win 10 on it. I got a message it did not mee system requirements.
I was going take it to the local laptop shop and see if it could be
upgraded, or look at what they may have off lease.


Thanks
Perry

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Norman, I'm not sure if you have a windows or Mac computer, however I
suggest you try the following.

1) Go into Cars and sort the cars via location
2) Click on the first row and then scroll down and highlight all rows
3) Copy the highlighted rows. (on a window computer Control/C)
4) Open excel and paste these files into excel
5) you can then delete any information you don't want, use filters and
print whatever you require etc.

I do this before every Ops session and then walk around my layout checking
each location against what the system think's is there.

Hope this helps,
Duncan

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, norman.beveridge@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

Once again I tried searching for this one and failed. So please bear with
me if this has been asked previously.


I want to print the cars at just one location. So I go to that location,
and under tools I select show cars, and then select car roster, and then
print. Before I print, I can select what data to print by selecting
preview.


Unfortunately, even if I reduce the data to the bare minimum, when this
report prints most of the data is off the page to the right due mainly to
weird spacing between the letters. This makes the report useless. If I
reduce the font to the point where the data is on the page, then it is so
small that I cannot read it without a magnifying glass.


I tried printing in landscape format, but apparently this feature does not
communicate with my printer. I.e. nothing happened at all.


All I want is car number, road, type, and location, so that I can check
where everything is at each town individually. I can get by without the car
type, but that only save a small amount of space, not enough to increase
font size without losing part of the location information.


Suggestions? Ideas?




Norman

--
Duncan Cabassi


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found the reason for the 10 being the escape for ETX 0x03

I am enjoying getting to know JRMI - C/MRI operation and appreciate how helpful this group has been to date.

It has been a long term desire of mine to automate a model railway layout with the goal now looking much closer.

Cheers
Geoff

Paul

I was able to try the changes you made yesterday and in limited testing the
throttle worked well, i had no engine control problems the function keys
worked as they should. Programming still is working fine.Happy to see the
changes are effective in a straight Z21 setup.

Thanks for your efforts

Bill Lang

As Jon says, it seems like something changed the status of all the entries.
Since I don't know of any command that would do that, I have to ask:



WHEN WAS THE COMMAND STATION BATTERY LAST CHANGED??



Sorry to use all caps, but when I see something that seems like a change
that makes no sense, I suspect the hardware. A failing battery could account
for anything being weird in the slots or settings.



Given the history of the JMRI throttle, I've known we put hooks for a few
other forms, but I've not found any code to do stuff with the Motorola form
other than identify the header if seen. Yes some of the command station have
something to do with it. But I can't find anything that JMRI could generate
to do the status edit. Maybe I missed it, but so far, I can't see how JMRI
would have any way to do what happened. At least on LocoNet, I don't see
code to do things with the format, only read it. Ecos, Marklin, and Zimo
have more code so might, but nothing obvious about being able to do anything
with it changing everything.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Folks,
I recently dove into my JMRI installation and all went well......for a while. I managed to list about thirty of my locos on the roster but when I opened the software yesterday and turned on my NCE DCC
system the software will not communicate with the DCC system. It just displays a notification (in red) that NCE is offline and nothing I have tried will reestablish communications between the two.
Has any one in this group ever experienced this situation and what did you do to resolve it? By the way the DCC system works fine in all other respects. Thanks in advance.
Bill Aulicino
Apex NC

Mike,
From what I can gather.
The laptop is a Dell XPS M1710. Model number on the back is PP05XB.
It has win7 ultimate.
200 Ghz processor
4 GB memory.
320 GB hard drive
GForce 7900 sound.
I can't get it to load my email keeps giving me stopped responding messages and script errors.
Thanks for advice in advance
Perry

On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Can you be more specific as to it's specs and the Dell model? Not only
could we then tell you if it will run, if you want or need to upgrade it I
could point you at the parts that will work for you.

Mike Piazza

On Jun 21, 2017 9:34 AM, "texasperry@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

I read the system requirements on JMRI site. I did not see anything about
memory or processor speed. Are there any minimum requirements.
My current machine is an old old Dell gaming computer I was given. I could
not load Win 10 on it. I got a message it did not mee system requirements.
I was going take it to the local laptop shop and see if it could be
upgraded, or look at what they may have off lease.


Thanks
Perry

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Jim S.,

There are two obvious things that can control a slot's "default" "operating mode" - that is, whether the slot defaults to "trinary" or "128 speed step" or "28 speed step" or "14 speed step" or "motorola" or one of the other possibilities...

First, you might want to take a look at DCS100 "OpSw"es 21, 22, and 23. These are supposed to provide the "global system default type" when acquiring a locomotive which is not already in the DCS100 slot table (and when the throttle does not override the command station).

Depending on which firmware version of DCS100 you have, and which version of the DCS100 manual you have, you can find conflicting information on these, and different lists of what values are supported. I've always used a "poke-and-hope" approach - try a set of OpSw 21/22/23, power-down then power-up, then acquire a loco that is not already in a slot, and see what mode it comes up in.

You need to use a DT*00x or DT402x throttle with a display to view the "status". For some throttle models, it is necessary to "status edit" the slot to view the "status" to find out what "status" or mode that the slot is using for the loco.

Second, if you use DT100x, DT300x, DT400x, DT402x, or DT500x throttles, each of these can provide a "default slot operating mode" which may override the DCS100 defaults.

With the DT100x throttles, the throttle's "Secondary Option" code "oS" influences the default slot operating mode value.

With the DT300x and DT400x throttles, throttle "OpSw2" influences the default slot operating mode value.

With the DT402x throttles and the DT500x throttles, when the "NewTypes" option is "on", then the "Nu Type=" value takes precedence over the command station's default slot operating mode; you want to make sure the "Nu Type=" value is reasonable (i.e. not "tr1"). Alternately, you may set "NewTypes" to "off" and rely on the command station's default value.

Regards,
Billybob

/On 6/22/2017 6:04 PM, jhswann@... [jmriusers] wrote://
/

/I can't find a location where to make 128 the default on the DCS100
but i'll keep looking/

There is a command station setting to make 128 default for NEW
decoders. But if somehow your current decoders were changed to a
different status then you either need to change them (status edit each
and every one) or delete and re-enter.

It seems as if a global command was sent to "status edit" all the
decoders on your layout to Motorola trinary.

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS