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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that the following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

Uploaded By: Phil in gorgeous Young Harris <philabernathy@...>

Description:
Virtual Sound Decoder file for an Alco S-1 loco (made from 1940 to 1950). Used a model 539 diesel and had no turbo. All sound files are 11khz, 8 bit mono (which, although they are less detailed, are smaller and take up much less room). Changed config file to make sounds more balanced (thanks Klaus!) and although these sounds are not perfect, they give a good caricature of what I think they should be (although I accidentally propagated the poppet sound onto several notches....)

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Locked DecoderPro Preferences folder is empty

 

Win 10 Pro
Version 1903
Java 1.8.0_101(en)
JMRI version 4.16
Digitrax PR4 using Com port 3
Digitrax DCS100 as command station
Digitrax DB150 ONLY as a booster

I've looked through the scripts in the?C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI folder.
Ran the batch file "installtest.bat" as admin & it did not run correctly.
?<SNIP>
Testing for 32/64-bit Windows
?
Running on 64-bit Windows
?
Testing for 32/64-bit process
?
Running as a 64-bit process
?
Testing for Java working
?
java version "1.8.0_101"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_101-b13)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.101-b13, mixed mode, sharing)
?
Java is correctly working.
Press any key to continue . . .
?
Now testing JMRI
'LaunchJMRI' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
?
Something is wrong with invoking JMRI. Check JMRI installation.
Press any key to continue . . .
<SNIP>?
The program has been running fine (as far as I can tell) except DecoderPro\Edit\Preferences aborts out of the program.

This the path from the DecoderPro icon on my desktop:??"C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe" apps.gui3.dp3.DecoderPro3
This is the staring point:??"C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI"
I just noticed that I am running in Windows 8 compatibility mode???

Is the possibility the path for JMRI did not get set up/set up correctly?
I installed the JMRI program in July & I do not remember changing anything related to using anything but the default paths/locations.
I just search my second drive & I found JMRI Ver 1.1 from 2002 & JMRI Ver 1.3.10 from 2004.
They are in the down loads folder but not installed - time to clean house.

This is from \Help\Locations
<SNIP>
User Files Location: C:\Users\munros\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\
Roster Location: C:\Users\munros\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\
Profile Location: C:\Users\munros\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\
Settings Location: C:\Users\munros\JMRI\
Current Config file:C:\Users\munros\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ProfileConfig.xml
Scripts Location: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\
Program Location: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI
Temp Files Location:C:\Users\munros\AppData\Local\Temp\
Log Files Location: C:\Users\munros\JMRI\log\
? C:\Users\munros\JMRI\log\messages.log
? C:\Users\munros\JMRI\log\messages.log.1
? C:\Users\munros\JMRI\log\messages.log.2
? C:\Users\munros\JMRI\log\session.log
<SNIP>

I did make the mistake of plugging my USB cable from computer to the PR4 into a different USB port & that made a mess.
I ended up with two com port 3's & ended of disabling/deleting both in Device Manager & then re-booted the P/C.
All better since then.

I do not even remember if I ever looked at the Preferences pane after installing JMRI.
I did look after the double com post fiasco but figured I'd get to figure that out at some time.

I am building a new table/layout so the train running is done on a 4 ft test track.
Also minor running at a local train club I just joined.

Any suggestions as to how to get the preferences pane to be displayed?

I am considering doing the update to the latest test version of JMRi with the hope that installing a new version will fix the preferences pane problem.
I'm guessing that is not a given that it will fix that problem?

Thanks - Dennis Munro
Waiting for the snow to hit over the weekend.
Locked Re: Warning - Connectivities for "Block Bonton TT Spur 1" in panels Bonton and Bondale are not compatable

 

Hi Dave,
is this problem with turntable stub tracks going to be fixed? ? I also have a TT with 25 stub tracks on two different panels showing this connectivity problem using JMRI 4.16. ?Not sure your suggestion in post #162822 is appealing.
Thanks,
Jeff Rowe
O Scale Trainmaster, Golden State Model Railroad Museum,
Pt. Richmond CA
Locked IP using Lights

 

Can you use the "Lights" function using a IP address and using DMX (e1.31)??
Not the Lights for signal heads, just the lights function.

Dennis
Locked Re: Sluggish native panel response time compared to web

Randall Wood
 

The rendering (and therefor visual responsiveness) of the native panel is performed in the Event Dispatch Thread (EDT) within JMRI (this is a hard requirement within Java). Because threading is very complex, JMRI also performs many other operations in the EDT.

It appears to me that the GNOME (Ubuntu graphical application API) / Java interaction means that rendering is controlled by the EDT, but is on a GNOME-specific thread, which may mean that all EDT processing has to be completed and then the native interface updates smoothly (this implies that a macOS or Windows user may see different behavior than you do).

Randall
Locked Sluggish native panel response time compared to web

 

Recently I've spent some time comparing the web presentation (as shown in a web browser) for a layout editor panel, with that of the 'native' panel (that shown directly on the computer). What I noticed surprised me; the web panel was significantly more responsive than the native panel.

The native panel gives the impression of being 'polled', where sometimes it responds quickly, and other times there is a noticeable delay. I've not been able to actually measure the delays, but would put them all at sub-second, so these are by no means serious delays, but noticeable nevertheless! I'm just wondering if other people have noticed the effect and might know what is causing it.

I've tried experimenting with browsers on the 'server' machine (i.e. where JMRI is running), on a separate machine and on a pretty old smartphone. I've had the server running on a cheap laptop and higher spec desktop and the effect is similar. In the case of the smartphone there was a slight delay in the browser response (but this corresponded in timing to a browser on the server machine), but the panel again lagged behind. The effects are similar whether the change is in response to a trigger from the browser or from the native panel itself.

I'm not aware of this being a recent phenomenon, but for information I've tried it on the latest production release of 4.16 as well as the latest test (4.17.6) and development releases (4.17.7ish) and am not aware of a difference between them. From which I conclude it's not a recent effect, but cannot conclude how long it's been present.

I've been doing my tests using a simple panel I created to demonstrate web differences: /g/jmriusers/files/ProblemsBeingWorkedOn/Andy%20Brown%20-%20161045/CrossoverBlockOccupancyIssue03.xml

Desktop:
  • Ubuntu 19.10
  • Firefox 70.0.1 (64-bit)
  • JMRI 4.16 and 4.17.6 and later
  • Java 11.0.5-ea (en_GB)
  • Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8100 CPU @ 3.60GHz (Quad-core)
  • 16GB memory
  • 240GB SSD
Laptop:
  • Ubuntu 19.10
  • Firefox 70.0.1 (64-bit)
  • JMRI 4.16 and 4.17.6 and later
  • Java 11.0.5-ea (en_GB)
  • Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz (Dual-core)
  • 8GB memory
  • 240GB SSD
Smartphone:
  • Motorola Moto G (2013)
  • Android 5.1
  • 8GB
  • Browser: Lightning v5.1.0 (open source)
Regards
Andy
Locked Re: Making VSD Files and Config - Volume question #vsdecoder

 

Phil,

Am 28.11.2019 um 18:45 schrieb Phil in gorgeous Young Harris via Groups.Io:
Howdy all. In my latest rabbit hole, I am putting a mini wifi camera (SQ23) on a train and plan to have an Engineer in another room run the train with the help of local Switchmen and Conductor (on the ground at the train; no radios, just hand signals like 1950). My friend said it would be cool if there was audio of the train too, so I embarked on a VSD trail.
The train will be using an Alco S-1, and while I have gotten the examples to work, I wanted an Alco, so I am making a vsd file for that.? I have the sounds and steps for Idle, Notch 1 and Notch 2 and for notching up and down, and I also have the Bell (F1), the Horn (F2), added a Shorthorn (F3).
It's a good decision to make a try with VSD! Sound enriches our hobby.
I think you're very close to a good VSD file. I'm just gonna make a few recommendations.


The problem I am having is the volume.? I can edit the sound files and manually change any I need (they are all normalized at -1db), but I thought (apparently incorrectly) that the "gain" in the config file would adjust the volume of the various pieces.
Right, the "gain" parameter is used to adjust the volume of the different sound files like the Bell, Horn, and so on. For engine sound however "engine-gain" is used instead of "gain". Engine sound covers the start and the stop sound, the idle sound and all the notch sounds. Default engine-gain is 0.8 (from a range of 0.0 to 1.0). Engine-gain = 0.0 would mute the engine sound.


I have posted my project in the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn/Phil Abernathy files section if someone wants to look. It sounds really cool, but the prime mover is far too loud, while the horn is too soft, and I don't have many notches (although it will be used for Yard switching, and may not use many notches).
Thanks for the upload! That was very helpful.

I recommend to reduce the volume of the prime mover sound with your audio editor. Yes, the horn is too soft. You could try to increase the volume in config.xml, e.g. gain = 1.2 (or reduce the engine sounds, e.g. engine-gain = 0.6).

You mentioned that "16 bit, 47khz" is not working for you. JMRI supports 16 bit, 44100Hz. Please check your rate value of 47khz! Class64.vsd is working with 16 bit, 44100Hz chuff sounds.

Klaus
Locked Re: jynstrument error for USB throttle in 4.17.6 #scripting

 

Allen,

Great!

That change to the script is now in the main JMRI repository so will be correct in future releases.

Thanks for your help confirming this.

Best regards,

Matt H
Locked Re: jynstrument error for USB throttle in 4.17.6 #scripting

 

Matt,
That did it!
Thanks for the help,

Allen
Locked Re: speed matching

 

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Bachmann decoders are a good reason for using DecoderPro. It’s easy to get confused when manually programming these decoders, especially when dealing with CV29. Why? Because the NMRA, most books, and other manufacturers number the bits of a CV as 0-7, but Bachmann numbers them 1-8.

?

Mark Granville
Locked Re: Integrating JMRI to my MERG CBUS Layout #layouteditor

 

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Good evening Steve. I am going to have another marathon run tonight. I take your points but will read through them again carefully. I said to PeteB tonight, the help you all have given has been tremendous. I was not sticking with using Internal Turnouts but thought it was necessary because I could not establish what system names I should use for the turnouts. Pete pointed to 3 tools in JMRI that may help, CBUS Node Manager, CBUS Event Capture Tool to list 2. I shall play with these tonight.

Best wishes

Peter

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of steve young via Groups.Io
Sent: 28 November 2019 23:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Integrating JMRI to my MERG CBUS Layout #panelpro #layouteditor

?

Hi Peter,

I'm still unsure as to why you're using Internal Turnouts rather than MERG CBUS Turnouts.

If you look at the JMRI CBUS Turnout Table, click on show Feedback Information.

If you now operate the Turnout via your non-JMRI panel, you'll notice that only the "Feedback" ( state ) is updated, not the ( commanded ) "State".
If you setup the Turnout as a CBUS Turnout, the ( commanded ) state will also update when the Turnout event is heard incoming to JMRI.

This also enables the physical Turnout to be set via clicking on the Layout Editor Panel or in the CBUS Turnout Table.
Your system will be a lot more in-sync if it knows there's a discrepancy between the Commanded and Feedback states.

There is absolutely no harm in JMRI knowing what the Commanded State is, so would recommend changing from Internal to CBUS Turnouts.
You don't HAVE to use JMRI for sending Turnout events, but if you did in future it's a lot easier to set it up now.

Consider the following CBUS events,

Event 1 is taught to operate a Servo
Event 2 is the Servo Closed Feedback Event
Event 3 is the Servo Thrown Feedack Event

23:39:39.252 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event On EN:1 Command Turnout Thrown 23:39:39.334 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event Off EN:2 Closed Off
23:39:41.531 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event On EN:3 Thrown On
23:39:56.905 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event Off EN:1 Command Turnout Closed 23:39:57.695 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event Off EN:3 Thrown Off 23:39:59.896 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event On EN:2 Closed On

In this common scenario, light the panel LEDs by teaching the LED module events 2 and 3.


If you require a single Sensor to trigger a Route, have you looked at Routes?


When the Route is confirmed with all Turnouts feedback set correctly, you can have Sensors / Turnouts triggered to illuminate LEDs on Control Panels.

These are a lot easier to configure than Logix imho!
As you are using Internal Turnouts, the commanded state would not be known, so you would not be able to trigger routes, only monitor them.

Routes can be also triggered on JMRI Startup, handy for sending a Start of Day CBUS Event when your panel has been initialised and tables loaded,

You could specify multiple SOD events with a time gap between them by selecting an additional delay between Turnout commands.

Steve.
Locked Re: Integrating JMRI to my MERG CBUS Layout #layouteditor

 

Hi Peter,

I'm still unsure as to why you're using Internal Turnouts rather than MERG CBUS Turnouts.

If you look at the JMRI CBUS Turnout Table, click on show Feedback Information.

If you now operate the Turnout via your non-JMRI panel, you'll notice that only the "Feedback" ( state ) is updated, not the ( commanded ) "State".
If you setup the Turnout as a CBUS Turnout, the ( commanded ) state will also update when the Turnout event is heard incoming to JMRI.

This also enables the physical Turnout to be set via clicking on the Layout Editor Panel or in the CBUS Turnout Table.
Your system will be a lot more in-sync if it knows there's a discrepancy between the Commanded and Feedback states.

There is absolutely no harm in JMRI knowing what the Commanded State is, so would recommend changing from Internal to CBUS Turnouts.
You don't HAVE to use JMRI for sending Turnout events, but if you did in future it's a lot easier to set it up now.

Consider the following CBUS events,

Event 1 is taught to operate a Servo
Event 2 is the Servo Closed Feedback Event
Event 3 is the Servo Thrown Feedack Event

23:39:39.252 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event On EN:1 Command Turnout Thrown 23:39:39.334 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event Off EN:2 Closed Off
23:39:41.531 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event On EN:3 Thrown On
23:39:56.905 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event Off EN:1 Command Turnout Closed 23:39:57.695 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event Off EN:3 Thrown Off 23:39:59.896 JMRI < < CBUS | Short Event On EN:2 Closed On

In this common scenario, light the panel LEDs by teaching the LED module events 2 and 3.


If you require a single Sensor to trigger a Route, have you looked at Routes?


When the Route is confirmed with all Turnouts feedback set correctly, you can have Sensors / Turnouts triggered to illuminate LEDs on Control Panels.

These are a lot easier to configure than Logix imho!
As you are using Internal Turnouts, the commanded state would not be known, so you would not be able to trigger routes, only monitor them.

Routes can be also triggered on JMRI Startup, handy for sending a Start of Day CBUS Event when your panel has been initialised and tables loaded,

You could specify multiple SOD events with a time gap between them by selecting an additional delay between Turnout commands.

Steve.
Locked Re: ESU Select Question

 

That's the one.

Seriously, sometimes I don't know what or where I am.

John

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Dave Heap <dgheap@...>
Date: November 28, 2019 at 4:44 PM


Marc and John,

On 29 Nov 2019, at 9:36 AM, forfoum@... wrote:

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 04:58 PM, John wrote:
In the files section there should be either a pdf or Word document listing
folks
willing to help other ESU users, someone may live close to you...make a new
friend?
Maybe in the ESU forum but not in here. I searched for it out of curiousity.
The list is in the Files section of the LokSound group, recently moved from
Yahoo to groups.io

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: ESU Select Question

 

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Marc and John,

On 29 Nov 2019, at 9:36 AM, forfoum@... wrote:

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 04:58 PM, John wrote:
In the files section there should be either a pdf or Word document listing folks
willing to help other ESU users, someone may live close to you...make a new
friend?
Maybe in the ESU forum but not in here. I searched for it out of curiousity.

The list is in the Files section of the LokSound group, recently moved from Yahoo to

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: speed matching

[email protected]
 

I thought mallet sounded a little less violent : -)

Marc
Locked Re: ESU Select Question

[email protected]
 

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 04:58 PM, John wrote:
In the files section there should be either a pdf or Word document listing folks
willing to help other ESU users, someone may live close to you...make a new
friend?
Maybe in the ESU forum but not in here. I searched for it out of curiousity.

Marc
Locked Re: ESU Select Question

 

Hello Brad,

There are Select micros and V4 micros but there are not Select V4 micros. The
Select line is a "dumbed down" version of the V4. The selct can only be loaded
with ESU sound files, with the V4 the modeller can make their own sound files
and load them into whatever sound slot they may desire.

To install the Full Throttle features you will need a LokProgrammer. In the
files section there should be either a pdf or Word document listing folks
willing to help other ESU users, someone may live close to you...make a new
friend?

ESU uses a proprietary communications method to talk to their decoders, Decoder
Pro can only manipulate CVs within the decoder, it cannot load sound files or
firmware updates into the decoder, again the LokProgrammer is required for this.

Hope this helps.

John

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Brad Kobielusz via Groups.Io" <bkobielusz@...>
Date: November 28, 2019 at 1:42 PM



Hi all
I am have been looking into the possibility of using decoder pro to
upgrade Micro Select V4 decoders to the FUll Throttle version. My guess is
that it can’t be done I had considered trying to use a Full Throttle version
to clone to an older version with the same prime mover type. My guess is the
sound file is different enough that it needs a full new sound file loaded from
ESU. However knowing there are some pretty smart people on this list I
figured I would ask.
Thanks Brad
Locked Re: Webserver layout editor panel showing incorrect block occupation for a crossover

 

Andy, I'd suggest a new thread for the performance issue. Include details such as your OS, processor and amount of memory. I'd also include testing with a browser on the server machine.
--SteveT
Locked Re: Fatal crash - JMRI V 4.16

 

Hi John,

No need for a system log unless you spot another error !!.
Thanks for confirming sorted,

Steve.
Locked Re: speed matching

 

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PMSL

There is no engineering problem that cannot be resolved by the use of a bigger hammer!

Dave


On 28/11/2019 11:37, Dave Audley wrote:

I like the last sentence!
?
Dave Audley
?
From: forfoum@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] speed matching
?
Googlng, I came upon this instruction sheet for the Bachmann 36-550, 4 function decoder.

? :

Bit 5 of? CV29 must be set too enable " USER defined Speed table "?? When you go into DecoderPro and Bachmann 36-550, Speed Table Tab, you must select the? "Use Speed Table" button? so that CV29. bit 5? gets set to proper value. Fail to do this and the User Speed Table will have no effect.

If DecoderPro can not IDENTIFY the decoder and match it to an existing roster entry,? you have issues with your program setup or the decoder in question.
When you read CV7 and CV8? you should get? 46 and 101, which you are getting from somewhere.? These are also used by DecoderPro to match with the roster.?

If you are still unsuccessful, use Program on Main? and fire out the User Speed Table and? CV29 value to the decoder..

If this still does not work. Give up, give in,? Remove decoder and place on table. Take mallet in hand and " convince " the decoder.?

Marc

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