Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34826

On 11/27/2013 08:51 PM, Dan K3DRQ wrote:

And remember, you can always "cheat" with the Signalink whenever you
want. (I just recently did for the contest this weekend.) But the more
CW you do, the faster you'll send/receive, and you eventually won't need
to "cheat" with a computer anymore.
 "Cheating" meaning receiving with the computer, not sending.

-- 

-73, Dan K3DRQ

FISTS #13110, SKCC #4493T, EPC #20322

Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34825

On 11/27/2013 08:20 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
On 28/11/13 10:02 AM, Dan K3DRQ wrote:
The Signalink sends data through sideband phone, so you would not be
sending CW, but MCW, which is illegal below 50 MHz.And another data point.  According to you, anyone who ran/runs CW on a 
FT-7 was/is also operating illegally.  Check the schematic of the FT-7 
one day, you'll find an audio oscillator keyed by the key, the output of 
which is sent to both the audio amp (for sidetone) and the SSB modulator.

With regulation by bandwidth, say goodbye to CW (and PSK31 won't even
exist!)

Don't be afraid to pick up a key. It's just like "computer illiterate"
where most of the problem is based on being uncomfortable or afraid to
learn.
Real CW is very easy, and while there are lots of idiots (usually at the
lower edge of the bands) there are plenty of hams willing to slow down
and help you, myself included. Check out SKCC, free membership, lots of
fun awards, and most importantly, very friendly people always willing to
slow down for newcomers:



 (Sked page for members,
have to ask about that once you join, but even without joining you can
go there and see where on the dial we are)

And remember, you can always "cheat" with the Signalink whenever you
want. (I just recently did for the contest this weekend.) But the more
CW you do, the faster you'll send/receive, and you eventually won't need
to "cheat" with a computer anymore.

Know Code,

-- 

-73, Dan K3DRQ

FISTS #13110, SKCC #4493T, EPC #20322

Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34824

On 28/11/13 10:02 AM, Dan K3DRQ wrote:
The Signalink sends data through sideband phone, so you would not be
sending CW, but MCW, which is illegal below 50 MHz.And another data point.  According to you, anyone who ran/runs CW on a FT-7 was/is also operating illegally.  Check the schematic of the FT-7 one day, you'll find an audio oscillator keyed by the key, the output of which is sent to both the audio amp (for sidetone) and the SSB modulator.


-- 
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL

Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34823

On 28/11/13 10:02 AM, Dan K3DRQ wrote:
The Signalink sends data through sideband phone, so you would not be
sending CW, but MCW, which is illegal below 50 MHz.And how would anyone know?  This is the sheer craziness of mode based regulation.  A pure tone in a SSB transmitter can also be considered an IF at audio frequencies followed by an image reject mixer.  Who said the IF of a transmitter had to be above audio frequencies?  If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.  As I said in a previous message, the main advantage of using CW mode over SSB is on the receive side, where you have access to the narrower CW filters.

And quite frankly, the rest of the world doesn't care - mode based regulation went out here years ago, now there's a simple bandwidth limit for each band.  Many other countries have adopted similar regulations, from what I can gather.

-- 
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL

Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34820

On 11/27/2013 01:50 PM, John Nelson (KD8TZC) wrote:
Is there a way to send CW on the 7000 via software like FLDIGI, WinWarbler,
etc?  I thought I have seen that some will send a ???tone??? via SSB, but is
there a way to send a true CW signal out while using the computer to type
out the message, or do I need some other components between my computer,
Signalink USB, and he rig?

Thanks,

John V. Nelson ??? KD8TZC

The Signalink sends data through sideband phone, so you would not be
sending CW, but MCW, which is illegal below 50 MHz.

-- 

-73, Dan K3DRQ

FISTS #13110, SKCC #4493T, EPC #20322

Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34819

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On 28/11/13 5:50 AM, John Nelson (KD8TZC) wrote:

Is there a way to send CW on the 7000 via software like FLDIGI, WinWarbler, etc? ?I thought I have seen that some will send a “tone” via SSB, but is there a way to send a true CW signal out while using the computer to type out the message, or do I need some other components between my computer, Signalink USB, and he rig? ?

Well, one could argue what "true CW" is.? Afterall, keying a tone into a SSB radio is the same thing, except that the first IF is at audio frequencies, and the first mixer is image rejecting. :)? The real difference between using CW and SSB mode on the radio will actually be on receive, because different filters will be available.

That out of the way, to send computer generated CW in CW mode, you need an additional keying signal, and a connection to the KEY jack on the radio, and the software needs to be able to toggle a spare line on a serial port to generate the keying signal, or if the software will only send tones, you need to generate the keying signal from the audio - diode detector, smoothing cap (not too large value) and a comparator, or even a single transistor (if there's enough voltage to turn it on) should do it.

-- 
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL

Re: Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

[email protected]

#34822

There may be a way to send a form of CW with audio tones, but it's far easier to send with another device.

I use a RigBlaster Plug-n-play from West Mountain Radio for CI-V, CW and sound card digital modes. Around a hundred bucks and it works a treat. According to Tigertronics your Signalink should send real CW just fine, although I don't see a dedicated CW connection on the device.

From http://www.tigertronics.com/slusbts.htm#How%20do%20I%20operate%20%22direct%20keyed%22%20CW%20with%20the%20SignaLink - How do I operate "direct keyed" CW with the SignaLink - This is done by simply connecting the SignaLink's PTT and Ground lines to the "Key" and "Ground" lines of your radio's Key jack.? One of our un-terminated radio cables can be used to make these connections.? You will need to attach the appropriate plug for your radio's Key jack to this cable.? Using our SLCABNC cable, we suggest attaching the white/orange wire to the tip of the plug, and the orange wire to the plug's body/sleeve.? You will then need to install the SignaLink jumpers as follows; PTT to 1, and G (ground) to 2.? Note that direct keyed CW is limited to about 25 WPM on Transmit (there is no limit on Receive), so if you need to transmit faster than this, you'll want to run AFSK CW.

Personally I'd use a real CW device rather than the Signalink in this case, but then I run faster than 25 wpm. The Winkeyer WKUSB-SMT is an outstanding device found in many, many stations. http://k1el.tripod.com/wkusb_smt.html - inexpensive, easy to assemble, and above all it WORKS. Note that it won't decode CW for you, but I don't recommend using your computer to copy CW anyway, as it's unreliable too much of the time.

Hope this helps!

73 de Bob WP2XX???

---In ic7000@..., <kd8tzc@...> wrote:

Is there a way to send CW on the 7000 via software like FLDIGI, WinWarbler, etc? ?I thought I have seen that some will send a “tone” via SSB, but is there a way to send a true CW signal out while using the computer to type out the message, or do I need some other components between my computer, Signalink USB, and he rig? ?

Thanks,

John V. Nelson?–?KD8TZC

Re: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

Billy McFarland

#34821

John, I can use CW with my rigexpert standard interface and pc. There is a cw jack on the cable. Just got to ensure the radio is set for straight key rather than paddle

Billy
GM0OBX

From: John Nelson (KD8TZC) ;
To: IC 7000 ;
Subject: [IC-7000] Send CW via FLDIGI or other...
Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 6:50:48 PM

Is there a way to send CW on the 7000 via software like FLDIGI, WinWarbler, etc? ?I thought I have seen that some will send a “tone” via SSB, but is there a way to send a true CW signal out while using the computer to type out the message, or do I need some other components between my computer, Signalink USB, and he rig? ?

Thanks,

John V. Nelson?–?KD8TZC

Send CW via FLDIGI or other...

#34818

Is there a way to send CW on the 7000 via software like FLDIGI, WinWarbler, etc? ?I thought I have seen that some will send a “tone” via SSB, but is there a way to send a true CW signal out while using the computer to type out the message, or do I need some other components between my computer, Signalink USB, and he rig? ?

Thanks,

John V. Nelson?–?KD8TZC

Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

Alex Netherton

#34817

I do not know if the earlier models of the 7K work on 60 meters, but the manual with mine gives a rather complicated way of getting there, and the radio will only tune to those channels, so there is inherent safety. I haven't taken the time to do it, since I have another radio that goes there.

So, the recent crop of 7K's will indeed tune to 60, but I do not know if the earlier models will allow a firmware upgrade as do some other radios.

Good luck es 73 de KC4BO

Alex Netherton

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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Leroy Higgins <leroy.higgins@...> wrote:

?

Hi John,
The ICOM IC-7000 download page is:

This is the latest IC-7000 operating manual. Text searching this pdf file works! Unfortunately, the maintenance manual is NOT listed for download!

The date on the last page of the downloaded manual is 2010.

Enjoy
Leroy
KI6MES

--- In ic7000@..., "John B" wrote:
>
>
> Thanks everyone for the input. I like this site that Brian list I download several pdfs.
> john .kg9dk
> --- In ic7000@..., brian mackey wrote:
> >
> > Try this site
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Brian Mackey
> > KC1MAC
> > Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! :)
> >
> >
> > From:
> > Reply-To: <ic7000@...>
> > Date: Saturday, November 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM
> > To: <ic7000@...>
> > Subject: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I find my best source of information on the '7000 is on YouTube. Just do a
> > search there for the IC-7000, and you will find a lot of great 'know-how'
> > videos there.
> >
> > 73, Curt WA2JSG NJ
> >
> > SKCC #3018T
> >
> > NAQCC #3457
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---In ic7000@..., <jab3739@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to the group,
> > I have not taken time to see if one exist but thought I would ask the group
> > and shorten my research time to find such a book if it exist. I do not
> > spend a lot time on the air, I use the hobby to experiment with kits and
> > test equipment and am not an expert at that either. so if anyone knows of a
> > good way to learn about the features of the icom 7000 via a book or you-tube
> > let me know.
> > john kg9dk
> >
>

Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

#34816

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PS:
This PDF is searchable.

>> Tony,
>> Can you send me a link for that PDF user guide? the one I have is un
>> searchable.... it seems that someone just scanned it and convert it to PDF
>> so it's like an image and you can't search for a text within it.
>> Thank you
>
73
James - KB7TBT

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Let me introduce my self I am Helen"

Helen Sinnott

#34814

Hi my name is Helen
My call is VK3RY
I operate mostly CW on my Ic7000 not because I am good at it, I am terrible, but I do love it, and hope to become good at it. I live in Ballarat and I am Married to my husband Denis.
My main rig is my Ic 7000 my other rig is an FT 101b it doesn't, work on Phone either : ) mainly because up to now I had my beloved ic7000 , yes after my ebony I do love it! So there I have introduced my self,
maybe I will hear you on air 73s
Helen

Lucky me my rig still run CW!

Helen Sinnott

#34815

Hi I am new to this group. My name is Helen I joined because my IC 7000 is a little ill.
The problem seems to be the processor board. checking the output of the dual dac coverter, the appears to be no USB/LSB, although the unit readily produces rtty cw am fm !
The ALC is full scale, however there appears to be no AVC voltage.
I am out of ideas, can any one help?

Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

#34812

Hi John,
The ICOM IC-7000 download page is:

This is the latest IC-7000 operating manual.  Text searching this pdf file works!  Unfortunately, the maintenance manual is NOT listed for download!

The date on the last page of the downloaded manual is 2010.

Enjoy
Leroy
KI6MES

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--- In ic7000@..., "John B" <jab3739@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone for the input.  I like this site that Brian list   I download several pdfs.
john .kg9dk
--- In ic7000@..., brian mackey <brian.mackey@> wrote:

Try this site

Thank you,

Brian Mackey
KC1MAC
Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! :)

From:  <wa2jsg@>
Reply-To:  <ic7000@...>
Date:  Saturday, November 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM
To:  <ic7000@...>
Subject:  [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

 I find my best source of information on the '7000 is on YouTube.  Just do a
search there for the IC-7000, and you will find a lot of great 'know-how'
videos there.

73, Curt WA2JSG NJ

SKCC #3018T

NAQCC #3457

---In ic7000@..., <jab3739@> wrote:

Hello to the group,
I have not taken time to see if one exist but thought I would ask the group
and shorten my research time to find such a book if it exist.  I do not
spend a lot time on the air, I use the hobby to experiment with kits and
test equipment and am not an expert at that either.  so if anyone knows of a
good way to learn about the features of the icom 7000 via a book or you-tube
let me know.
john kg9dk

Re: [IC-7000] Hi I am new to this group I have problems with no ssb on tx

BT Yahoo!?2013

#34813

HI Helen
?????????????? many of these problems coming to light are as a result of the lead free solder used in the construction of these modern transceivers. so a dry joint is the most likely cause of a lot of problems with the Icom Ic7000.
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Best Regards Robert G6LLP

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From: "helen_3ry@..." <helen_3ry@...>
To: ic7000@...
Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013, 11:30
Subject: [IC-7000] Hi I am new to this group I have problems with no ssb on tx

Hi I am new to this group my name is Helen Vk3ry

I have lost SSB upper and lower on my rig.

I have been able to track the lack of TX down to the 1st IF?

my thoughts it may be the processor, the rig is quite happy on am fm Rtty

and good on ex. it implies the Dac is ok too,alc indicates very high alc although there is no alc voltage.

I sure I am not the only one with this prob? ? ? ??

Any one with similar experience?

KInd regards Helen VK3RY

谢谢

Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

John B

#34811

Thanks everyone for the input.  I like this site that Brian list   I download several pdfs.
john .kg9dk

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--- In ic7000@..., brian mackey <brian.mackey@...> wrote:

Try this site

Thank you,

Brian Mackey
KC1MAC
Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! :)

From:  <wa2jsg@...>
Reply-To:  <ic7000@...>
Date:  Saturday, November 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM
To:  <ic7000@...>
Subject:  [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

 I find my best source of information on the '7000 is on YouTube.  Just do a
search there for the IC-7000, and you will find a lot of great 'know-how'
videos there.

73, Curt WA2JSG NJ

SKCC #3018T

NAQCC #3457

---In ic7000@..., <jab3739@> wrote:

Hello to the group,
I have not taken time to see if one exist but thought I would ask the group
and shorten my research time to find such a book if it exist.  I do not
spend a lot time on the air, I use the hobby to experiment with kits and
test equipment and am not an expert at that either.  so if anyone knows of a
good way to learn about the features of the icom 7000 via a book or you-tube
let me know.
john kg9dk

Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

#34810

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Yes. I love it. It is part of my 7000 go-bag.
?
Of course, that ebay seller is?offering it for $21.45.
Ham Radio?Outlet (and Universal Radio)?has it for $20.95
Gigaparts has it for $18.85
Shop around for it a bit.
?
73.
?
_-_-_ Dave, AE7TD
?

To: ic7000@...
From: anetherton@...
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:29:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

Look here:

That is likely the best for the buck. The manual that comes with it is good, but detailed, and likely written by someone with English as a second (or third) language (Engrish, ). These are written with simplicity and quick reference in mind, and are written by English speakers.

73 de KC4BO

Alex Netherton

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On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM, James - KB7TBT <kb7tbt@...> wrote:

?

>> Tony,
>> Can you send me a link for that PDF user guide? the one I have is un
>> searchable.... it seems that someone just scanned it and convert it to PDF
>> so it's like an image and you can't search for a text within it.
>> Thank you
>
73
James - KB7TBT

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Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

Alex Netherton

#34809

Look here:

That is likely the best for the buck. The manual that comes with it is good, but detailed, and likely written by someone with English as a second (or third) language (Engrish, ). These are written with simplicity and quick reference in mind, and are written by English speakers.

73 de KC4BO

Alex Netherton

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On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM, James - KB7TBT <kb7tbt@...> wrote:

?

>> Tony,
>> Can you send me a link for that PDF user guide? the one I have is un
>> searchable.... it seems that someone just scanned it and convert it to PDF
>> so it's like an image and you can't search for a text within it.
>> Thank you
>
73
James - KB7TBT

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Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

#34808

Tony,
Can you send me a link for that PDF user guide? the one I have is un
searchable.... it seems that someone just scanned it and convert it to PDF
so it's like an image and you can't search for a text within it.
Thank you73
James - KB7TBT
www.qsl.net/kb7tbt

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Re: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

Alex Netherton

#34806

Why do they need my credit card if the download is free? Did I leave the fish out of the freezer or is it something else I smell?

On Nov 23, 2013 6:43 PM, "brian mackey" <brian.mackey@...> wrote:

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?

Try this site

Thank you,

Brian Mackey
KC1MAC?
Hams don't let hams get stuck on 2 meter repeaters! :)

From: <wa2jsg@...>
Reply-To: <ic7000@...>
Date: Saturday, November 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM
To: <ic7000@...>
Subject: [IC-7000] RE: icom 7000 book for dummies

?

?I find my best source of information on the '7000 is on YouTube.? Just do a search there for the IC-7000, and you will find a lot of great 'know-how' videos there.
73, Curt WA2JSG NJ

SKCC #3018T
NAQCC #3457

---In ic7000@..., wrote:

Hello to the group,
I have not taken time to see if one exist but thought I would ask the group and shorten my research time to find such a book if it exist. I do not spend a lot time on the air, I use the hobby to experiment with kits and test equipment and am not an expert at that either. so if anyone knows of a good way to learn about the features of the icom 7000 via a book or you-tube let me know.
john kg9dk