Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Hello Rob,
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?Thanks for your e-mail i just found lurking in the wrong folder (my filters are complex and subject to the odd idiosyncrasy... ;))
It's an industrial device to clamp a signal from a pressure sensor at a given level to bypass safety features!
Best regards,
?Chris ? ? ?mailto:chris@...
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Its good to see the Kicad files contained everything required to complete the gerber file set.
So... what is it? ? A power supply?
On 01/05/2020 11:49 PM, Dave wrote:
Chris:?
? I loaded the design files into Kicad and produced the Gerber files. ?I ran them through the jlpcb.com Gerber Checker.?
You can get 5 boards for $2, 10 boards for $5 or 100 for $18.90 plus shipping. ?The last boards I ordered were shipped by DHL and arrived in under a week!?
? A couple of comments. ?D4, in series with +12V, is backwards. Also, the board could use silkscreen noting the board title as well as the P1 thru P4 connections.?
Dave - WB6DHW?
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On 1/5/2020 1:51 PM, Chris Wilson wrote:?
05 January 2020?
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is was I?
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the company?
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me if?
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch made,?
and which do I need and who could I use??
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards. Thanks.?
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Hello Dave, and all who so kindly replied, apologies for my late response, work took me away from home. Special thanks to Dave who has been an absolute star in converting these files to a supported format. I will now approach a couple of fabrication houses and I'll report back as to how I get on, it's all very much appreciated!! Monday, January 6, 2020 Best regards, Chris mailto:chris@... D> Chris: D> ? I loaded the design files into Kicad and produced the Gerber files.? D> I ran them through the jlpcb.com Gerber Checker. D> You can get 5 boards for $2, 10 boards for $5 or 100 for $18.90 plus D> shipping.? The last boards I ordered were shipped by DHL and arrived in D> under a week! D> ? A couple of comments.? D4, in series with +12V, is backwards. Also, D> the board could use silkscreen noting the board title as well as the P1 D> thru P4 connections. D> Dave - WB6DHW D> <> D> On 1/5/2020 1:51 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: 05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards. Thanks.
D>
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
I think Dave meant? I've used (yes, 3 e's) and been happy with results.
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Its good to see the Kicad files contained
everything required to complete the gerber file set.
So... what is it??? A power supply?
On 01/05/2020 11:49 PM, Dave wrote:
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Chris:
? I loaded the design files into Kicad and produced the Gerber
files.? I ran them through the jlpcb.com Gerber Checker.
You can get 5 boards for $2, 10 boards for $5 or 100 for $18.90
plus shipping.? The last boards I ordered were shipped by DHL and
arrived in under a week!
? A couple of comments.? D4, in series with +12V, is backwards.
Also, the board could use silkscreen noting the board title as
well as the P1 thru P4 connections.
Dave - WB6DHW
On 1/5/2020 1:51 PM, Chris Wilson wrote:
05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is
was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the
company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me
if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch
made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards.
Thanks.
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Chris:
? I loaded the design files into Kicad and produced the Gerber files.? I ran them through the jlpcb.com Gerber Checker.
You can get 5 boards for $2, 10 boards for $5 or 100 for $18.90 plus shipping.? The last boards I ordered were shipped by DHL and arrived in under a week!
? A couple of comments.? D4, in series with +12V, is backwards. Also, the board could use silkscreen noting the board title as well as the P1 thru P4 connections.
Dave - WB6DHW
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On 1/5/2020 1:51 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: 05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards. Thanks.
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Just for some information here......... for
anyone who wants to get PCBs made in a fabrication house......
The bare minimum requirement to get a single
sided copper PCB will be to
provide 4 files.
1. ONE copper bottom layer as a gerber file.
2. ONE solder mask file...also called RESIST
file..... which defines where to have holes in the solder mask
epoxy to expose cope to solder to.
Note that some fab houses will accept a drill
file that tells where to put those solder mask holes
while other fab houses will only accept a gerber
file for a maks file.
3. ONE EXCELLON format drill file which says
where to poke holes in the PCB
4. ONE boarder outline gerber file that says how
to slice the PCB to the correct size.
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ALL OTHER files can be omitted.
They don't care if you have a silk screen to
print on the top or the bottom.
Here is a perfect example of that minimalist file
set...zipped and send to OSHPARK
that they created these two images then delivered
the PCBs
so.....
all I am saying here is that if you have to reverse engineer a
schematic and
you get as far as a schematic......
you really don't need the silk screen artwork to get more PCBs made.
Have fun.
I did.
Rob KB3BYT
On 01/05/2020 09:09 PM, Dave wrote:
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Chris:
? I took a quick look.? Looks like some Gerber files are missing.
KICAD makes the Gerber files from the pcb file.
You will need the following Gerber files to have the boards maade.
Top Copper
Bottom Copper
Top Solder resist
Bottom Solder resist
Top silkscreen
Bottom Silkscreen if you have silkscreen on the bottom
Board Outline
Drill file
Dave - WB6DHW
On 1/5/2020 1:51 PM, Chris Wilson wrote:
05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is
was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the
company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me
if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch
made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards.
Thanks.
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Chris:
? I took a quick look.? Looks like some Gerber files are missing. KICAD makes the Gerber files from the pcb file.
You will need the following Gerber files to have the boards maade.
Top Copper
Bottom Copper
Top Solder resist
Bottom Solder resist
Top silkscreen
Bottom Silkscreen if you have silkscreen on the bottom
Board Outline
Drill file
Dave - WB6DHW
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On 1/5/2020 1:51 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: 05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards. Thanks.
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
Go to the PC board fab site, and then see what their requirements
are, which files they want, and so on.
Take the files you have, hopefully produced by a CAM program, and
zip them.? submit those files as if you were going to make a
board.? If you can see everything you're supposed to see, then
you've got the files.? There's also gerber viewer programs
available.
If you don't have the files produced by the CAM program, then
take the original kicad files, and run them through Kicad's CAM
program.? Most pcboard houses that accept gerbers generally have a
script you can use to make boards to their satisfaction.?
SeeedStudio, for instance, accepts gerbers, and has downloadable
programs for EAGLE (which I use) and Kicad, which I have yet to
use.
Harvey
On 1/5/2020 6:26 PM, Jan Kok wrote:
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The zip file contains files with "kicad" in their names.
Presumably they were made with the Kicad PCB design package.
I'm not familiar enough with Kicad to say if the files
are good and sufficient. If you don't get an answer here,
you can try at? [email protected], along
with some recommendations for PCB makers that can accept
Kicad files.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 2:51 PM
Chris Wilson < chris@...> wrote:
05
January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is
was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the
company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell
me if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another
batch made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards.
Thanks.
--
Best regards,
?Chris? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? mailto:chris@...
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Re: Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
The zip file contains files with "kicad" in their names. Presumably they were made with the Kicad PCB design package. I'm not familiar enough with Kicad to say if the files are good and sufficient. If you don't get an answer here, you can try at? [email protected], along with some recommendations for PCB makers that can accept Kicad files.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 2:51 PM Chris Wilson < chris@...> wrote: 05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards. Thanks.
--
Best regards,
?Chris? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? mailto:chris@...
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Are these sufficient files to have boards made in China please?
05 January 2020
I had 100 boards made for me in the UK and part of the deal is was I
got the "files" to keep. I am running low on stock and the company
that did them is no longer trading. Could someone kindly tell me if
the files in the link below are sufficient to have another batch made,
and which do I need and who could I use?
They are through hole boards and I just want bare boards. Thanks.
--
Best regards,
Chris mailto:chris@...
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
the sodium hydroxide is both a surface cleaner and acts as an
electrolytic cavitator in the process.
It's etching lightly the surface & initiating a network of
pores within the terminal (hardened) layer of the aluminum which
will accept the pigments uniformly.
A critical detail, is only some aluminums are receptive of
anodizing.
My preferences are 6061, 6063 & 5052 grades.
On 12/8/2019 9:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
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NaOH
(Sodium hydroxide aka lye aka drain cleaner) is mainly used
to degrease the part, gets that last bit of crap off.
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It’ll
strip the oxide layer off as well, and giving the part a
slight etch probably isn’t a bad idea.? It’ll eat the part
completely if left in too long – try it with a drink can.?
You wind up with the plastic layer.
?
Tony
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Did you
click on the links? NaOH is just part of the process.
On 04/12/2019 16:18, Dave wrote:
I don't think NaOH would work - some people use it to etch
the aluminium prior to anodizing (gives a better finish
seemingly)? but you need an acid for the actual anodizing.
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Steven Greenfield AE7HD
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
NaOH (Sodium hydroxide aka lye aka drain cleaner) is mainly used to degrease the part, gets that last bit of crap off. ? It’ll strip the oxide layer off as well, and giving the part a slight etch probably isn’t a bad idea.? It’ll eat the part completely if left in too long – try it with a drink can.? You wind up with the plastic layer. ? Tony ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Greenfield AE7HD via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 9 December 2019 10:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [homebrewpcbs] OT: Anodizing aluminium ...? Did you click on the links? NaOH is just part of the process.
On 04/12/2019 16:18, Dave wrote: I don't think NaOH would work - some people use it to etch the aluminium prior to anodizing (gives a better finish seemingly)? but you need an acid for the actual anodizing.
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Steven Greenfield AE7HD
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
Did you click on the links? NaOH is just part of the process.
On 04/12/2019 16:18, Dave wrote:
I don't think NaOH would work - some people use it to etch the aluminium prior to anodizing (gives a better finish seemingly)? but you need an acid for the actual anodizing.
-- Steven Greenfield AE7HD
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Re: Microscopes for SMD soldering etc
Hi Tron,
? Well, I ordered the kit from Whizoo so I may be asking some
questions later when it's time to run it. Mainly profile info if
you have any on various solder. If you just use the datasheet I
can find that info, but any tweaks or tips and tricks will be
useful. No rush as I will be figuring out the SMD circuit board
layout at first and may even have to design a macro for a micro
USB port.
Thanks,
Dave
On 10/31/2019 10:57 PM, tron eee wrote:
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@Dave,
I too went through the process of attempting to resolve the
problem of soldering SMD components. I tried a variety of USB
Microscopes because they were inexpensive while the vendors
were promising performance that simply wasn't good enough.
However, microscope also have their foibles. I came to find
that its best to call the microscope company and tell'm your
budget and your goal. If they are an authentic company,
they'll help you make the correct choice.
If you are just soldering a few 1206 and 806s here and
there, well its fairly easy to solder these by hand using a
temperature controlled pencile soldering iron. If however, you
are doing a bunch of boards with many different sized SMDs, I
recommend ya take the extra effort to fabricate an SMD oven.
The ovens are simple to make and are VERY easy and effective.
I used a Black & Decker 1200 Watt InfraWave toaster
oven which have low mass 'crystal' heater elements that
exhibit low thermal inertia.
Check out this inexpensive SMD oven controller and homebrew
website.
tron nee
Anybody
using a microscope made for soldering? I finally realized I
need
to be able to see better, and I will pay for the needed fix. I
don't
think I want a USB style that has the little monitor/display
but rather
something like these:
Anyone use one? The only con I see often complained about is
if you
don't hold your head just right, the view disappears, kind of
like with
a rifle scope on high power.
Thanks
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
On 04/12/2019 16:18, Dave wrote:
I don't think NaOH would work - some people use it to etch the
aluminium prior to anodizing (gives a better finish seemingly)?
but you need an acid for the actual anodizing.
I'm told that sodium bisulfate behaves like sulphuric acid when
in solution under electrolysis.
I have no experience at all in this, I am NO chemist (well just
what I remember from "O Level" chemistry way back in 1964 !!).
Dave
Steven,
? That's good info. Never looked into it much but that makes it a
bit easier. Besides, I already have the sodium hydroxide as we
used to make soap as a hobby/business years ago.
Dave
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
Steven,
? That's good info. Never looked into it much but that makes it a bit easier. Besides, I already have the sodium hydroxide as we used to make soap as a hobby/business years ago.
Dave
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
Because idiots kept on throwing it into people’s faces. It was happening roughly twice per day in 2016/7 according to wiki.
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Why on earth can't you buy sulphuric acid in the UK?
Doug? On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:15 PM, David Slipper Cant buy sulphuric acid in the UK now - been told that sodium bisulfate solution is almost as good. Dave
On 02/12/2019 21:04, roger wrote:
You tube. Lots of stuff. You will need power sulfuric acid and? I believe lead.
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 12/2/19 1:21 PM (GMT-07:00) Subject: [homebrewpcbs] OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
I have made a box for a pcb I have created that needs screening but the?
plain aluminium look is a bit boring and prone to scratching.
A friend suggested anodizing as it toughens the surface and he had heard?
that they can then be coloured with die.
I am intrigued and would like to give it a try but has anyone any?
experience of doing this or can point me in the right direction ???
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
A knee jerk reaction to some acid
attacks. You need a license to purchase over 15% concentration
unless it is in a battery. You can get up to 2 years in jail for
possessing or selling the stuff without a license.
To get a license you have to pay (of
course), get a doctor's report and have a clean record with the
police.? If you have had any mental illness or depression in the
last 10 years forget about getting a license.
Les
On 03/12/2019 19:35, Doug Pfaff via
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Why on
earth can't you buy sulphuric acid in the UK?
Doug?
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:15 PM, David Slipper
Cant buy sulphuric acid in the UK now - been told
that sodium bisulfate solution is almost as good.
Dave
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
David Slipper said:
> Nah - why do it the easy way ;-)
Did you mean NaOH? I don't know of a process using NaH.
Snork!
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Steven Greenfield AE7HD
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Re: OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
Why on earth can't you buy sulphuric acid in the UK?
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:15 PM, David Slipper <softfoot@...> wrote:
Cant buy sulphuric acid in the UK now - been told that sodium
bisulfate solution is almost as good.
Dave
On 02/12/2019 21:04, roger wrote:
You tube. Lots of stuff. You will need power
sulfuric acid and? I believe lead.
Sent from my
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
Date: 12/2/19 1:21 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [homebrewpcbs] OT: Anodizing aluminium ...
I have made a box for a pcb I have created that needs screening
but the
plain aluminium look is a bit boring and prone to scratching.
A friend suggested anodizing as it toughens the surface and he had
heard
that they can then be coloured with die.
I am intrigued and would like to give it a try but has anyone any
experience of doing this or can point me in the right direction
???
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Steven Greenfield AE7HD