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http://www.texastowers.com/ft817.htm Not much info but getting closer to US availablity. Gary Mitchelson N3JPU 6M WAS (#1069), 6M VUCC (#1070) 250 confirmed Montgomery County, MD FM19lc http://n3jpu.tripod.com/ n3jpu@... n3jpu@... gmitchelson@... (Work) gmitchelson@... (Work)

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Has anyone heard when tha 817 will be made available in North America . I think this is the only missing piece of information at this time . Howard VE2AED _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

here is some information or a survey for 10 meter intruders (bootleggers and such). This will help them show how much illegal activity is on the band.

Finally Yaesu USA has the 817 listed under their new products.

Nice find, Hanno! Here's a picture link Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! http://www.yaesu.com/LM/vx1200.html

If the receive current of the ft-817 is truly 450mA as our friend from Japan has said, I seriously doubt I'll buy one. I had heard earlier that the receive current was around 150mA. I wonder why the disparity in these numbers? Regards, Mike M. KU4QO

Well I have to ask... My FT-7 is bending my mountain bike frame and it over due for retirement... LOL Has any one gotten prices yet in US dollars??? Cheers all from N.E.Pacific Ocean.... Grant / ve7grf / QRP... QRT

Apologies if this has been covered... has anyone heard how low the power can be dropped? 72 de Rohn, KR0HN

I have an 817 in the air presently from Japan , As soon as I receive it (I hope this week ) I will make all measurements and confirm all of your questions . I just picked up at a hamfest this weekend NiMH AA cells made by Sanyo ( 1.6 AH ) so this should provide the 817 with alot of hours between charges . It appears that the batteries will charge in the radio only if the status of " Battery" terminal is modified . This terminal is meant to sense the FNB-72 Yaesu battery and I don't think anything else will charge without a mod . Fortunately I picked up all schematics . Will keep you all posted . 73's VE2AED _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hi everyone I received my ft817 today from my friend in Japan , The radio is as nice as can be imagined and is indeed a dream come true , The first qso was with a w0 reporting 5/9 on 17 meters . Battery current is around 310ma at zero volume and with the lamp off subtract 30 ma at comfortable volume add 50 ma , I will make more measurements when I have time . I purchased the new 1.6ah Sanyo/GE NiMh AA cell batteries , the radio as it comes will not charge batteries in the AA holder , the radio requires that you purchase the optional FN72 battery pack however a quick glance at the schematic and I simply cut the green wire on the battery holder (there are 3 wires going to the holder ) . The batteries now charge at a 180 mah rate , the charge time is programmable , 2 settings 6 hours and 10 hours , the charge rate is fixed so obviously the 1.6 ah batteries need more than 10 hours for full charge ( 150% of their rate) The charge cycle is manual , in otherwords you have to turn it on , the batteries charge whether the radio is on or off and in the off mode there is a count down timer which displays how much time left until the charge turns off . There are no safety circuits so it is possible to repeat the charge cycle and overcharge the cells , however a 6 or 10 hour rate will not damage them . The S meter is "cute" not only is there a bar display as in all radios but there is a digit to the left of the bar displaying the signal level ( example "S4" ) . My next project will be to probably change some jumpers in the front panel to enable the USA 70cm and 2 m bands . Since this rig is "Japanese" it only covers 144-146 and 430-440 . The 817 comes with an antenna similar to the one supplied with the VX5 which covers 144 and 450 and with the screw on extender 6 meters as well (all 3 bands ) . I have some beautiful whips from my JRC JST10 hand held hf "lunchbox" for 15 and 40 meters and will try them in portable use . Yaesu should make antennas similar to those . ANYONE OUT THERE FROM YAESU LISTENING .. :) 73's for now Howard VE2AED I beleive the 817 will set a trend _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I recieved a quote of 98,600 yen ($915.00 US) FOB in Japan. Does any one have a price update? Any US prices yet??? 73 ve7grf... QRP .... QRT... K

I heard Howard on 20 meters late this afternoon. I listened critically to the audio, and I thought the rig sounded great. I was mobile in California and I guess he was in Eastern Canada. Although he didn't move the S-meter I copied most of his transmission with relative ease. With all my road noise I have trouble copying lots of mediocre audio signals, but his was great.Enjoy your new radio Howard. gus k2gt

A few more observations on my FT-817 , after studying the specs of the final amplifier it became aparent that the "FETs" used in the final are extremely robust ( http://www.mitsubishichips.com/data/datasheets/hf-optic/hf-opticpdf/ds/sk2975.pdf ) and can safely run 10 watts out per piece , each device can disipate 10 watts of heat with a max junction temp of 175C . I decided to modify some parameters in the radio just to see what could be accomplished , in fact the radio at max power was outputing 4 watts at 1.88 amps , removing the transmit limiting current completely in hf only (HF1IC1 ,2 and 3 and increasing the drive (HF1H1 , 2 and 3 see the alignment on egroups) the radio ran 10 watts at 9-13 volts with 2.5 amps total consumption , simple math proved that the TX was 50% efficient and max current parameters were never exceeded , however I did not test any further and suspect that since the transmitter was probably running full bore there was probably no headroom left for ALC so I then adjusted the IC settings for 7 watts and the drive "H1" settings for a max of 6 watts , alc was not affected and so I left it this way . I realize that this represents a very small DB increase going from 4 to 6 watts however I felt that this setting was the best option in high power setting ( the rig has 4 switchable settings with a warning power icon in the highest setting when on battery power ) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

FT-817 is priced at $759.95 at Universal Radio. HRO lists it also. You can't have one until next month, it seems. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0817.html Wayne VE3EFJ

The Texas Towers site has it priced at $749US. Just wondering if anyone has heard of the Canadian Price yet ??? http://www.texastowers.com/ft817.htm 73, Tim VE3UO FT817@... wrote:

I tried all of your combinations , with a and b vfos programmed to different frequencies and or bands and split enabled all of your combinations work fine . 73's Howard VE2AED _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

At HRO yesterday I asked if I could go on a list to notify when 817 arrived; they said it was in their price list and took an order (back-ordered). I don't know when it is due to arrive - they'll call me - but I imagine it's not long. 73 Dave WB0GAZ wb0gaz@... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Sorry I haven't followed up on some of your questions pertaining to my 817 which I received from Japan . I left off where I had reset a couple of the hf parameters in order to measure maximum power capability . I then ,at that point decided to leave the rig at 6 watts output . Since that time I received low audio reports (too much dynamic range ) , I immediately suspected that by changing the power settings that the alc was affected . I then attempted to increased the ssb tx audio in the user menu settings , its default value was 50 , at 64 I became aware of a problem , the rig had no tx audio at 64(maximum value for this setting is 100 ) . Since the electronic level control that is used to attenuate mike level is a serial input device I assumed that Yaesu had a software bug , however since there was a lack of mike gain available to develop sufficient alc at 6 watts to make the audio punchy (remember : this radio relys heavily on alc for a full envelope as there is no DSP or pre-processing, it has no other form of processing but alc) I then , having taken note of the original values in the alignment menu , reset the 817 to the factory values . I continued to receive "thin" audio reports (too much dynamic range ) . The audio could not be turned up high enough due to this "software bug" and the only way that I could develop the alc level required for communications audio was to "mouth " the mike and speak a little louder than normal (this becomes a problem with 3 kids sleeping ) . I contacted Mike at Yaesu and informed him about the bug and that the radio could never reach full tx mike gain . A few days later he received positive confirmation from Japan that there is an audio bug and Yaesu feels that it will not hinder the performance of the radio and that they will market in North America with this bug. I disagree with their statement completely as I have hands on experience with the rig and it does not modulate sufficiently nor develop adaquate alc unless I speak close and loud . The characteristic of the bug is as follows ,when one turns up the mike gain (ssb mike gain) past 64 the gain begins again from 0 (zero) and increments up 36 counts to digit 100 , if you compare the gain setting (with a scope) of 100 to a setting of 36 you will see that both levels are the same . I proposed an intermediate fix so that I wouldn't have to disturb my family and that is to change some resistor values on the 1st speech amp to increase the gain by approximately 6 db . I don't believe that Yaesu will impliment this change and the radio will be released with this bug as they have stated. Aside from this I still love the radio and hope that Yaesu fixes their firmware quickly so that I can purchase a second one . I am currently working in Washington DC for the week and have worked DX ( Moscow) and some local US stations on 20 meters simply with a long wire dangling out the window of the hotel from the 8th floor . I really love the radio , just wish Yaesu would correct the problem before releasing the first version , Without opening the rig I will endevour to find a suitable replacement mike . Just one last comment the mike gain works properly on FM and AM only ssb mike gain is affected by this bug . 73's Howard VE2AED LAte breaking news , I arrived back in Montreal last evening from DC and connected my 817 to my 12 volt supply , went on 20 and suddenly had plumes of smoke from my 817 and then the radio was of course dead . Something in the rig had shorted out the batteries and caused a meltdown of the battery holder , fortunately the springs on the battery holder became annealed and opened up the battery circuit , had that not happened I would have probably had a fire in the radio as I am using 1.6 amp AA nicads . I immediately opened up the radio , removed the battery holder and measured 0 ohms from + to ground , same on the external DC input . I decided I ad had enough for one day since I had been out of town all week and brought the schematic to kids swimming lessons this morning . After tracing all paths only thing I could come up wit

At Pacificon (Concord, CA) this weekend, HRO is taking orders for what they say will be a three-week delivery. A GOOD number of folks have put credit card down and signed up for one. It certainly appears to be everything we had hoped for. Yes, live one here being passed around for demo and it will be in the QRP Meeting this evening (10/21/2000) at 7:30 pm hooked to antenna for guest operations. Ed, N5EM