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No Tx Power or Tx Audio

 

Just some info...

Purchased a new FT 817 @ Dayton this year. I found extremely low Tx
power & Tx audio only in the USB & LSB modes (all bands & both front
and rear antenna). Checked SWR, changed from internal battery to
external 12v, changed various power levels.....no difference.

Did a reset, everything is OK now. hmmmmm

Faris
N2FH


Re: MP-1 / AP-10A / ATX (3/8-24 hardware MP-1 mount)

 

Barry W5WB wrote:
I forgot to mention that the current B&W coil is easy to use
compared to the older version. It has a fly lead that
just attaches to the place you desire on the coil.
I agree that the AP-10A is not a magic bullet nor is any other whip.
Thanks for anwering all the questions about the AP-10A, Barry!
The AP-10A coil and its hardware would be useful piece parts that
could be mixed and matched with other antenna parts, after a little
machine work making some adapters.

Looks like the AP-10A makes an efficient fixed portable antenna, as it
was intended. I guess for those of us who want a single travel antenna
which can fullfull both mobile and portable requirements, the stock
AP-10A might not be quite as well suited.

For the versatility that the MP-1 and its FT-817 bracket provides with
fixed portable, mobile, and pedestrian mobile use... I have a hunch
the MP-1 would still be my choice when packing light for a trip...
especially for rental cars and pedestrian.

Speaking of "packing light"... I've recently been using the new ATX
with the 3/8-24 threads for those times when I travel with an absolute
minimum size package. Although the efficiency of the ATX is not as
good as either the MP-1 or the AP10A, I've managed to make some
Pedestrian Mobile SSB QSOs on 18MHz~21MHz with the ATX and the FT-817.
On 7, 10, 14MHz, I have only made CW contacts... SSB 5W just doesn't
cut it there with this combo. The ATX (3/8-24) using the MP-1 mount
on the FT-817 is a much more durable combination for pedestian use
than my "old" ATX BNC.

Bonnie KQ6XA


Re: NorCal QRP BLT tuner

n6tqs@arrl.net
 

From: ham73ch@...
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:53:34 -0000

Hi Steve,

Could you please publish more info about the NorCal QRP BLT tuner

You can take a look at . It was last
years project, and I have no idea if any are still available.
I suspect not as a kit.

73, doug


NorCal QRP BLT tuner

ham73ch@yahoo.com
 

Hi Steve,

Could you please publish more info about the NorCal QRP BLT tuner

73! Mike


New FT-817

 

FWIW, I got around to opening the FT-817 I purchased at Dayton
(shipped to my home) today and noted two things.

First, the ferrite bead is now part of the accessories.

Second, the 7240 kHz birdie is even louder than on my old 817.

My first 817 is from Lot 03 (first group into the US) and the new one
is from Lot 21.

72 de Barry - W4WB


Re: headsets for FT817

Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 

Cc: FT817@...


From: "Pres Waterman" <pres@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:30:06 -0400

> Has anyone tried a telephone headset for the rig? They are small and
> light.

If you mean a "cellular" headphone ( and I am sure you do ) I have been
thinking this one over, especially for bicycle use. The only problem is
there is no headphone audio for receive present on the modular socket. Well,
2 solutions come to mind: 1 would be an ugly 2 connector idea, where the mic
and headphone each plug in, or the other would be either multiplexing the
receive audio onto an otherwise unused pin during receive such as MIC GND,
PTT or even riding on the +5v line.

For your consideration, the wires are as follows: Looking INTO the jack with
the lock tab DOWN:

1 Down
2 Up
3 +5
4 MIC GND
5 Mic
6 PTT
7 GND
8 Fast


Thoughts?

I don't characterise the two plug adapter as particularly ugly,
myself. Does anyone know if the up/down/fast functions are contact
closures to ground, or something else?

Bicycle mobile was what kicked my thinking in this area, since
behind-the-head headsets, with noise-cancelling mikes are readily
available. I feel uncomfortable about modifying my helmet for an
over-the-top headset. A PTT box, perhaps with the other functions
available also, that would velcro to the handlebars would also be the
place where the headset would attach. Very convenient for
dismounting.

73, doug

who took a complete digital/voice HF/VHF/UHF station to the ARES
meeting in a shoulder bag, on my bicycle.




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Re: NorCal QRP BLT tuner

wb2iw@aol.com
 

The BLT tuner is available...I just built one, nice kit....with a ribbon
wire feeder and mini dipole i was able to work several states on 10,15,17
meters (ssb) on a quick test in my back yard with the dipole hanging from a
tree 8 feet off the ground. the tuner is very small and has a neat tuneup
led. you will like it.....thanks ,bill wb2iwc


SuperComm anyone?

Jeff Francis
 

Anbody else going to SuperComm in Atlanta this week? It's a
telecommunications trade show, for those who don't know. We could
hook up for a malted/distilled beverage (or three) and swap radio
stories. I'm gonna give "Hotel-Room-Portable" a shot again with the
FT-817, though I generally don't have much luck. Maybe I'll get lucky
and get a high room with a window that opens, for a change...



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| Senior Product Engineer | ------------------------- |
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| Denver, CO USA DM79nr | across the tundra. Suddenly, it |
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CAT CTCSS programming info

bob.freeth@dial.pipex.com
 

The user guide is less than helpful when it comes to knowing
how to send a CTCSS Tone to the FT-817.

The Opcode command chart lists:

CTCSS Tone P1 P2 * * 0B P1~P2: CTCSS Tone Frequency (Note 1)

When you look at Note 1: CTCSS Tone, it is just a table of CTCSS
tones, with no reference to P1 or P2.

What is needed in P1 and P2 are the numerics shown in the table, as
four-bit nibbles with leading zeros if required. e.g.

for a tone of 67.0 you need P1 as &H06 and P2 as &H70
179.9 P1 &H17 P2 &H99

and so on.

Hope this is of help to some. Remember that this just sets the
tone for the band you are currently in. To activate it you need
to be in FM and issue the CTCSS/DCS mode command 0A with the
required parameter P1.

Bob G4HFQ

P.S. Although I have not programmed DCS codes from the PC I rather
suspect a similar approach would work.


Re: headsets for FT817

Brian B. Riley, N1BQ
 

I just got my AD-1YM adapter and have hooked up my Heil Pro-5 and it
works fine. I am a little unhappy at the adapter gymnastics for the 1/4"
stero off the headset, but I added a Rat Shack right angle adapter (1/8
stereo to 1/8 stereo) so that mess lasy reasonably clean. I am cutting
the damned 1/4 mono for the PTT off and putting a 1/8 on it and making a
small puhbutton holder for that, of course there is always VOX, I
haven't tried that yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: n6tqs@... [mailto:n6tqs@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:43 AM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] headsets for FT817


Has anyone tried a telephone headset for the rig? They are small and
light.

And in the same vein, does anyone know where right-angle boots for
8-pin modular connectors can be obtained? I'd like to make an
adapater that lays alongside the radio.

I've used my old Heil BM-5 with the unit on VHF FM, and am told it
sounds fine. But even that's a bit large.


Re: Simple FT-817 interface

Pres Waterman
 

Has anyone built a simple RS-232 interface for the FT-817?

Any replies or suggestions welcomed
Yes, Yaesu has. It's compact, well built, inexpensive, and guaranteed to not
blow up your rig. It has the proper connectors on it. CT-62 is the model and
it's $30

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer

GO BILLS!


Simple FT-817 interface

Karl Heimbach
 

Gang,

Has anyone built a simple RS-232 interface for the FT-817?

Any replies or suggestions welcomed.

Thanks,

Karl - W5QJ


FTBasic V1.4.604: CTCSS fix, and Status Indicators

bob.freeth@dial.pipex.com
 

V1.4.604 of FTBasic is available for download at



This version fixes a problem that crept in whereby an FT847
would be one tone off the desired tone. While I was at it I
added a few indicators to show the status of CTCSS - Enc, Dec
and frequency.

The indicators are the best guess that the program can make of
the state of the rig from 'knowledge' of what commands it has
sent. If you modify CTCSS state or tone from the rig then the
program does not know what's going on as, apart from the FT-100,
there is no feedback as to whether tones are on or whatever.

During testing the changes it became clear that the FT-817 is
a bit fussy about delays between commands when changing the
CTCSS state, so I have added a further fixed delay inside the
program. Any direct feedback to me on the success (or otherwise)
of this change would be appreciated.

73,
Bob G4HFQ


Re: headsets for FT817

Pres Waterman
 

Has anyone tried a telephone headset for the rig? They are small and
light.
If you mean a "cellular" headphone ( and I am sure you do ) I have been
thinking this one over, especially for bicycle use. The only problem is
there is no headphone audio for receive present on the modular socket. Well,
2 solutions come to mind: 1 would be an ugly 2 connector idea, where the mic
and headphone each plug in, or the other would be either multiplexing the
receive audio onto an otherwise unused pin during receive such as MIC GND,
PTT or even riding on the +5v line.

For your consideration, the wires are as follows: Looking INTO the jack with
the lock tab DOWN:

1 Down
2 Up
3 +5
4 MIC GND
5 Mic
6 PTT
7 GND
8 Fast


Thoughts?

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer

GO BILLS!


ALL READ PLEASE: Change the Subject Line!

 

The FT817 Group is a very active group that generates LOTS of
messages.

PLEASE change the subject line in your replies to posts/messages to
reflect the subject you are talking about. This will help others of
the Group to decide to read or not read a post --- this saves
valuable time.

A typical example is the thread with the subject "RS Whip" that
presently has numerous replies The subject started asking a question
about the 72" telescoping RS whip for under $5 and is now discussing
kites and balloons.

Changing the subject is fine, but please take just a moment to change
the subject line to reflect what you are discussing.

Please note that ---

1. You can retype the subject when you reply without messing up the
links.

2. Your post will show up in the proper thread.

3. You will help your fellow Group members.

Thank you in advance for your consideration and contributions.

72/73 de Barry - W4WB
FT817 Group Co-Moderator


Re: MP-1 / AP-10A / antenna mounting hardware for FT817

 

Hi John,

I believe what Bonnie was asking me was if the B&W coil could be
mounted in place of the MP-1 coil. That is the reason for the 1/4-20
to 3/8-24 converter.

I forgot to mention that the current B&W coil is easy to use compared
to the older version. It has a fly lead that just attaches to the
place you desire on the coil.

I agree that the AP-10A is not a magic bullet nor is any other whip.
For those interested in small loaded whip-like antennas, reading of
the sections regarding mobile antennas in the ARRL Antenna Handbook
and the like is a great place to start. In short, the radiation
efficiency for shortened whips is rather low. However, at even 3%,
it is down by about 2.5 S-units from an antenna having 100%
efficiency. When the band is open, it is not such a big deal.

The use of extension rods is a good idea. You can move the coil more
towards the center and realize different characteristics. Since you
have a RF-1 analyzer as I recall, you will be able to observe the
effects of coil position.

In another post, Nick mentioned the old technique of using caps at
the base to null out the reactance. I'm not sure of the value of
doing this with the baseline MP-1 since I have found good tuning by
simply using a good tuned counterpoise. I further note that keeping
the "radials in a wad and moving them around to get minimum SWR" is
just providing the needed capacitance. Of course, the radiation
efficiency will be found lacking.

72 de Barry - W4WB

--- In FT817@y..., "John O. Newell" <jnewell@m...> wrote:
The bolt in the coil bottom is a standard 1/4-20. It is a
trivial matter to make a transition part.
Or, to drill out the hole and tap 3/8-24. Should be enough
stock left for that (though I think I'd prefer not to do it
with a hand drill).

Getting back to the bigger topic, though, as someone
mentioned, I think it is fair to say that the AP-10A is not
a magic bullet. The coil may have slightly higher Q and the
instructions may help getting it tuned faster, while the
MP-1 is more compact and has nice mounting hardware. Both
need care and skill to get predictably good results.

I bought some 3/8 aluminum rod stock last night and am going
to make up a couple of extension rods for experimenting with
the MP-1.

73
John Newell
KB1FPM


antenna and mfj259

Tom Mc
 

I know the MFJ 259 is a diagnostic SWR reader, but how do you tune an
antenna with it?
For those not in the know....

The MFJ is really a transmitter of abt 10mw .... If your using an
antenna for multi-band with a manual tuner, the MFJ makes it very easy
to setup for TX on the bands without QRM.

With a 2-way switch inline (radio/MFJ), you switch to the MFJ, set the
freq desired for operation on the MFJ unit, adjust the antenna tuner
till the MFJ shows the best SWR match. Switch over to the radio which is
on the same freq , the tuner is already to go!

The whole process takes a very short time and you'll be certain the
radio sees a good match.

best
Tom aa2vk

PS and yes, it is bigger than most QRP radios, but this works for any
output power withpout an auto-tuner and there are times when you lug all
the gear along; like field day! :)


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Re: RS Whip

Nick Marsh
 

nestoji@... wrote:

I thought about flying a kite (have been
told to do that before), but had a horrible mental image of me
chasing my 817 as a gust of wind drags it/me away...

See the June issue of CQ magazine on kite antennas.

Nick
WB4SQI


Re: An MP-1 that is very hot

Nick Marsh
 

How about an MFJ 910? I believe this is a small box with fixed caps that
can be switched to aid in finding a good match. Usually mounts at or
near the base.

I haven't seen anyone discussing this old trick in any of the MP-1/ATX
or other vertical threads. Swan, Master Mobile and others had these many
years ago for their particular types of mobile verticals.

Nick
WB4SQI

g4ilo@... wrote:


Mine is that at the frequency where the Q is highest (hence strongest
signals) the impedance is not 50 ohms. As I de-tune the antenna, the
impedance changes and appears to give a better match. That's why I
think the MP-1 ideally needs some kind of matching unit at the base,
as indeed do many base loaded mobile whips.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., Nick Marsh <nmar@e...> wrote:



g4ilo@q... wrote:

However, I found that you can be moving the coil
away from the point at which signals are loudest, in order to get
the
lowest SWR.

Anyone have a theory why this happens?


Nick
WB4SQI
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Re: MP-1 / AP-10A / antenna mounting hardware for FT817

John O. Newell
 

The bolt in the coil bottom is a standard 1/4-20. It is a
trivial matter to make a transition part.
Or, to drill out the hole and tap 3/8-24. Should be enough
stock left for that (though I think I'd prefer not to do it
with a hand drill).

Getting back to the bigger topic, though, as someone
mentioned, I think it is fair to say that the AP-10A is not
a magic bullet. The coil may have slightly higher Q and the
instructions may help getting it tuned faster, while the
MP-1 is more compact and has nice mounting hardware. Both
need care and skill to get predictably good results.

I bought some 3/8 aluminum rod stock last night and am going
to make up a couple of extension rods for experimenting with
the MP-1.

73
John Newell
KB1FPM