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Re: Which Performs Better: ATX or MP-1?
--- In FT817@y..., "Woodrick, Ed" <ewoodrick@e...> wrote:
I've also found that since I've got a couple of adapters betweenOne thing you can check for in hotel rooms.. There are sometimes very little plastic vents around the windows that open, Usually a sliding plastic tab. I was just on the 24th floor of a Vegas Hotel. The windows where totally sealed.. But... A little vent opened that you could actually see outside. Very easy to drop a weighted wire through. It was just a petty I was without my FT817 radio :-( That's another story which I will share with you all shortly. Best Regards David |
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Re: Need help: 817 power supply
I've had exceptionally good luck using the Yaesu accessory wall
wart. Didn't pay extra for it, just happened to have one, because it's the same part as the charger for the VX-150 2M handheld (another great piece of work, btw). So, if you're in the market for a great handheld.... chris. --- In FT817@y..., baranger1@a... wrote: Has anybody found a 2 amp wallwart style supply that works with the817? I am going crazy looking for a "NON- SWITCHING" supply that is inthe style of a wallwart. Thanks everybody, |
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Loops
Mike Agner
I have been reading about loops in various antenna handbooks.
Not only are they useful at HF, VHF and UHF ops can use them very effectivly (unfortunatly my balcony is too small for a 20 meter loop, and it has a metal screened door...drat!)... Anyway, here are 2 manufacturers of loops if you aren't the do it yourself type (from my goodies list): Par Electronics, Inc. P.O. Box 645 Glenville, NC 28736-0645 Phone: 828-743-1338 Fax: 828-743-1219 URL: Loop antennas from KB6KQ Norman W. Pedersen, KB6KQ 70 Arrowhead Dr Carson City, NV 89706 email: kb6kq@... Phone: 775-885-7885 FAX: 775-841-1880 URL: 73s Mike |
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Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...
--- In FT817@y..., howlingwolf@r... wrote:
Harry,work Arlan..I'm just using the Alpha Delta DX-EE 40-10M dipole. I pickedthe following states and DX: S.C*, AZ*, TX*, CO*, ME, OH, WA*, AR,using it up at HRO. It has an OAL of about 42'. I just stuck it up in an Ash tree in my back yard. One end is only about 7' AGL(!). I'll be putting it up at 30' feet this weekend for the next test. Stay tuned. :harry |
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Re: Which Performs Better: ATX or MP-1?
Steven L Herman
I would echo Ed's comments on hotel operating and go a step farther. I've
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never been able to work a single station yet using the '817 without having the MP-1 sticking out the window and good grounding. Out of four hotel stops, my only success was with a sixth floor ledge in Cannes with a most convenient small copper water pipe running along the ledge onto which I could clamp. I did have a view of the ocean 10 blocks away but was next to a busy highway. Worked 19 countries in nearly as many QSO's down to 2.5 w on both phone and cw on 10 and 15m, even getting some 59 reports and a 20-minute solid copy ragchew on 10m SSB with Israel. I work in an office in Tokyo on the 32nd floor of a building with a great view looking north but have a window which doesn't open and I suspect is heavily leaded. I run a packet station on UHF and can connect with digipeters 50km away, but HF is worthless as there's no way to ground anything. I've tried all sorts of configurations inside the office next to the window with the MP-1, ATX, etc. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated on how to devise something that might work here at the hi-rise QTH. 73, Steven K7USJ 7J1AIL -----Original Message-----
From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:ewoodrick@...] Sent: 13"N5OZ22"u 8:54 To: FT817@... Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: Which Performs Better: ATX or MP-1? I've found that many hotels, especially the high-rise ones, have heavily leaded glass. I can take a GPS and put it in front of a window and it will see absolutely nothing, crack the window and all of the sudden it sees everything. I haven't found a hotel yet that doesn't allow the window to be opened at least a few inches, usually enough to stick something out of it. Sticking a Maldol out the window usually does fairly. I've also found that since I've got a couple of adapters between the antenna and coax, that I can wedge it between the window and frame by closing the window on it. If a few chips of paint scrape off by accident, then the connectors will ground out to the window frame giving sometimes a quite sizable counterpoise to work with. I noticed this one evening by accident as I stuck the antenna out, all of the sudden I got many db increase in signals as I closed the window on the connector. Ed |
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Re: Loop antenna
Don
The magnetic loop antenna is excellent for QRP. If you wish to do some
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research on the subject locate the 1985 book by Ted Hart, W5QTR or the June/1986 issue of QST. In addition to it's small size, the extremely hi Q (approximately 500) provides fantastic front end selectivity and adjacent frequency strong signal rejection. The overall noise floor is about 1/4th that of a vertical. In March I published a product review for Wayne Green Publication on the MFJ 1786 loop antenna. Aside of it's somewhat high price, it is a very very good antenna. If you decide to build your own, you will need to very mechanical inclined with allot of metal working shop tools. ----- Original Message -----
From: <theshadow@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: [FT817] Loop antenna I remember an article some years back in PW that had a 2 merte loopQuestions ) see
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Re: Which Performs Better: ATX or MP-1?
Woodrick, Ed
I've found that many hotels, especially the high-rise ones, have heavily
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leaded glass. I can take a GPS and put it in front of a window and it will see absolutely nothing, crack the window and all of the sudden it sees everything. I haven't found a hotel yet that doesn't allow the window to be opened at least a few inches, usually enough to stick something out of it. Sticking a Maldol out the window usually does fairly. I've also found that since I've got a couple of adapters between the antenna and coax, that I can wedge it between the window and frame by closing the window on it. If a few chips of paint scrape off by accident, then the connectors will ground out to the window frame giving sometimes a quite sizable counterpoise to work with. I noticed this one evening by accident as I stuck the antenna out, all of the sudden I got many db increase in signals as I closed the window on the connector. Ed -----Original Message-----
From: IslPilot@... [mailto:IslPilot@...] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:05 AM To: FT817@... Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: Which Performs Better: ATX or MP-1? For "Motel Mobile" operations I try to get as close to the window as possible. The antenna normally sitting on its tripod. Some hotels have been impossible with the noise level inherent in the building. I try to request as high a room as possible with an opening window or for true bliss a balcony. I have "heard" that at even QRP levels the FT817 is capable of clearing out a Marriott using the fire alarm system on 12M. Paul To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FT817-unsubscribe@... and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?
Ryan Stapleton
I got one at the local HRO store and they only gave me $20 off.
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for a total of $749.. I would assume that was the at dayton price only. Oh well.. -Ryan ka3wut -----Original Message-----
From: Peter C. Abraham [mailto:peter_abraham@...] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:16 PM To: FT817@... Subject: Re: [FT817] Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention? I called HRO this morning and asked about the price, they said that the $639 (USD) price stopped yesterday at 5 pm. -Peter --- Marty Purselley <ranchonodinero@...> wrote: Anyone locate a vendor who would honor the prices?===== Peter C. Abraham Amateur Radio - KM5XD, ex-KB2INO Radio Network Planning Engineer for Nokia Networks WWW - - Last Updated Sept. 1999 <>< - Joshua 24:15 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FT817-unsubscribe@... and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Repeater Offset shows both -+ ??
Can't figure out what's going on as I have one memory channel for a
local repeater that was originally set with - offset now showing offset as both -+. The transmit is still on the - but the icon shows both -+. Other repeater offsets set in memory have not changed and show either - or +. When I punch the A button under RPT nothing happens on this channel...works ok on other memory channels. Second strange thing (or maybe I haven't been paying attention!) other than using RIT my VFO will only register 20hz changes in display when tuning...with the RIT it will register to the 10hz. OK, have I gone batty? Is it time I took a holiday from this little rig? 73 Lynn Hilborn VE3CSS |
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Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?
Peter C. Abraham
I called HRO this morning and asked about the price,
they said that the $639 (USD) price stopped yesterday at 5 pm. -Peter --- Marty Purselley <ranchonodinero@...> wrote: Anyone locate a vendor who would honor the prices?===== Peter C. Abraham Amateur Radio - KM5XD, ex-KB2INO Radio Network Planning Engineer for Nokia Networks WWW - - Last Updated Sept. 1999 <>< - Joshua 24:15 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices |
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Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?
Marty Purselley
Anyone locate a vendor who would honor the prices? Hamcom is coming up in Arlington, but we usually don't get "Dayton" type deals.
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Marty AA5UN ----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Mitchelson To: FT817@... Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: RE: [FT817] Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention? I wonder if any of the dealers will honor thier Dayton prices for those of us who could not go? ;') -----Original Message----- From: kc8ldo@... [mailto:kc8ldo@...] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:56 PM To: FT817@... Subject: [FT817] Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention? I don't know about everyone else saying they were quoted a price of $669 USD at HRO. When I checked on Friday AM HRO was selling them for $639 UDS each!? So I got one, paid cash, and my printed sales slip shows the price I was quoted above. Maybe they were selling so fast they jacked the price up to match the vendor in the next booth, which was quoting a price of $669 USD each, later on. Hummm? The highest price I was quoted was $760 USD from Michigan Radio. When I said I could get one from HRO much cheaper I was told, by a sales agent at the vendor's booth, that they were "selling old stock, and not the model with the current factory changes". I checked at the Yaesu booth and was told that was completely untrue. Looks like Dayton's Hamvention is not the place for the careless shopper if they want to save money. 8->> Leland C. Scott KC8LDO To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FT817-unsubscribe@... and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to Yahoo! Groups Sponsor www. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FT817-unsubscribe@... and for a great FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions ) see Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...
Harry,
Could you gives us some more details on your dipole? Thanx, Arlan W8OW --- In FT817@y..., harry.edwards@s... wrote: This past weekend from my QTH in the SF Bay area I was able to workusing either my MP-1 set up in my backyard or a multi band shortened 40-10M dipole mounted at 10' AGL. |
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Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group...
theshadow
Its only a hobby you know
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From: "Brian B. Riley, N1BQ" <n1bq@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:17 PM Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group... Questions ) see
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USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...
I have been using my FT817 for several weeks and wanted to post some
feedback to the group, especially with regard to my field trials of the MP-1 antenna, etc. My goal with the 817 is two fold: a QRP WAS and a QRP WAC, so my comments and evaluation will come from that perspective. This past weekend from my QTH in the SF Bay area I was able to work the following states and DX: S.C*, AZ*, TX*, CO*, ME, OH, WA*, AR, VK2*, VK3*, VK4*, ZL1, VE6, and VE7* (* multiple QSO's). I was using either my MP-1 set up in my backyard or a multi band shortened 40-10M dipole mounted at 10' AGL. ALL CONTACTS VIA SSB. I worked 40 / 20 and 15M. Working a VK from my QTH is total of 7,845 miles, or 1500+ miles per watt. (***I just missed a ZF--he couldn't get my call correct so he didn't go down in the log...next time.) I worked the ZL1 and the Maine QSO on the same night! In all cases the 10' high dipole greatly out performed the MP-1 regardless of band. I even tried the cardboard box trick that Vern suggested to reduce hard coupling with the ground. I was using a Z-11 tuner, however I was able to get a "no bar" SWR intication from the 817 by carefully hand tuning the loading coil with out the Z-11 on all bands I worked. Signal reports were generally +S3 better with the dipole even at only 10'. Feedback about the 817 was very consistent: Great audio. R/S reports ranged from 5 /1 to 5 /9++. My recommendation for phone mode is to be very aware of the mic. gain levels..I needed to run at a setting of "70" to get good deflection on the PWR meter on the 817. I received no reports of flat topping or over mod. on my audio with this setting, however. I made all my DX QSO's responding to CQ's or "tail ending" and logged a total of 6 VK's that I contacted in one call to their CQ in about 90 min. Bagging DX on one call running QRP is absolutely thrilling. Without exception Hams have been very supportive of my QRP efforts and more than once I received a call from others eager to really see if I was just running 5 watts. BTW..The VK guys love to work a QRP QSO. I plan to conduct a similar side by side test this weekend in preperation for gettting my field day set up finalized. Right now the dipole is looking real good. I have also been doing extensive testing of Mark Smith's RATS CAT GUI. I like this application a lot, more on RATS on another post. ( have no financial affiliation with Kingsmith software, etc., etc...). Like to hear about similar DX / WAS success from others. Thanks in advance. :harry |
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Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group...
Pres Waterman
PLEASE KILL THE THREAD AND STOP COMMENTING
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Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ----- Original Message -----
From: theshadow <theshadow@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group... Its only a hobby you know Questions ) see
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Re: Antennas
theshadow
I use Moonraker Ampro's (Dunno where they got the name). Only because they
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use hollow fibreglass Rods and the ants are lighter. I have had sucess with 20m and 10m dipole using the whips but on 40 the band width is too narrow to be of use. I find I get better results using a small spike in the ground to a stud mount and tuning against the natural ground. I also got a Mizuho 40m whip at the weekend it works quite well with minimum counter poise. Chris Taylor G0WTZ ----- Original Message -----
From: <julian@...> To: <FT817@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: [FT817] Re: Antennas For those with an ATU a cheaper and probably lighter solution (thethe food court nearest to the Yaesu booth. 439.125 simplex. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:Questions ) see
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Re: Best Price FT-817 at Dayton Hamvention?
Brian B. Riley, N1BQ
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-----Original Message-----[snip] BTW, I think the Kenwood HT is likely to be of interest to some peopleThis was exactly the idea I have been entertaining ... and I was quite glad that I found out about it first from this Yaesu Forum ... |
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Re: I thought this was an FT-817 group, not a Kenwood group...
Brian B. Riley, N1BQ
Lighten up ... there is some wrong on both sides ... but the better way
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to have gone about it would have been to wait until a day or two had gone by and then gently reminded the forum as a whole or the offending individual specifically by back channel that it was an Yayhoo FT817 Forum. NOBODY likes a List Nazi, particularly a self-appointed one. We drove one off QRP-L not all that long ago, and he was the the official List Manager. I should not have to remind you that you have no more rights here than the author of the comments about the Kenwood radio. I also should not need to point out that some discussion of a similar radio (small, compact, capable of wide range of receive) can help understand the FT817 even better. So ... chill ... adjust your prozac and enjoy your 817! cheers ... bbr -----Original Message----- |
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