Re: Cast iron table flatness issue
#k700s
Thanks David, I understand better the sentence "Could lead to more problems", so I cross fingers that the technician can fix the cast iron table to something acceptable. From a phone discussion, the guy said the same "0.1mm" is their tolerance.
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David Best / Survival Guide
David
I would like to get your Survival Guide; I have tried PM, but it did not work and I couldn¡¯t find any contact info on your site, so I apologize for this new thread.?
Please let me know how I could get a copy.?
Thank you!
Mariusz
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
In my experience, it¡¯s a lot more friendly to have separate extractor input hoses for jointer and planer modes on a large combination J/P. ?I hate wrestling with a long unwieldy 6¡± hose. ?Far easier to have to pickup hoses with a blast-gate on each.
David Best
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On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Aaron,
Do you remove the collector hose each time you turn the operation over on the jointer/planer combo machine? ?I was thinking that if you have some extra ¡°slack¡± in the hose length, that it just flips over to the other side of the machine without having to disconnect each time, no? ?Seems I see people doing it this way, but not 100% certain. Won¡¯t get my combo unit until June, to see for myself. ?
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:35 PM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:
? Hi Bill, ? One of the things I¡¯m going to ask from you is a ¡°120mm port to 6¡± hose adapter¡±.? So that we can quickly connect/disconnect a 6¡± hose from things like a Felder jointer/planer and edge sander. ?Not urgent because I won¡¯t be able to buy until March 16, but I would want to order two of these.? You¡¯ve got all sorts of adapters, but I¡¯m surprised nobody has asked for this one. ? -Aaron ? ? Thanks for the kind words and I¡¯m so happy that you¡¯re happy!!! Let me know if you need anything else. ? Bill,
Both items you have shipped me have been great.? They fit well and the color match is even great.
Keep it coming!
PK?
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
No. ?This is the one I thought was not as clear as it could be. ?Just suggesting more thorough specifications. ?Remove ambiguity where possible, ?Go verbose, ?
David Best
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On Feb 27, 2023, at 9:22 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
Are you talking about this one David?
Bill B
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:15 PM David P. Best via <dbestworkshop= [email protected]> wrote: Bill, I would also suggest you specify if a dimension is inside diameter (ID) or outside diameter (OD).? I was looking at your 80 x 80mm connector wondering just that.? I¡¯m needing 80mm OD to OD for a hose splice.? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Great suggestion Brian! Thanks?
Bill B You might want to add to your Etsy listings the sizes that the adapters fit. Say the rectangular, list it fits over a 30mm x 80mm port and fits a 4¡± hose on the outside on the round end. That way the customer can measure their machine and be sure they fit.
On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
I might have made one of those Richard. If you can measure the rectangular part of the port, I can check. Then whatever hose size you need for the round. Unless I¡¯m misunderstanding?something. Unfortunately I¡¯ve been making parts for folks and not documenting what machine ?they are for. My bad¡
Bill Bhe?
Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Are you talking about this one David?
Bill B
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:15 PM David P. Best via <dbestworkshop= [email protected]> wrote: Bill, I would also suggest you specify if a dimension is inside diameter (ID) or outside diameter (OD).? I was looking at your 80 x 80mm connector wondering just that.? I¡¯m needing 80mm OD to OD for a hose splice.? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Great suggestion Brian! Thanks?
Bill B You might want to add to your Etsy listings the sizes that the adapters fit. Say the rectangular, list it fits over a 30mm x 80mm port and fits a 4¡± hose on the outside on the round end. That way the customer can measure their machine and be sure they fit.
On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
I might have made one of those Richard. If you can measure the rectangular part of the port, I can check. Then whatever hose size you need for the round. Unless I¡¯m misunderstanding?something. Unfortunately I¡¯ve been making parts for folks and not documenting what machine ?they are for. My bad¡
Bill Bhe?
Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Bill, I would also suggest you specify if a dimension is inside diameter (ID) or outside diameter (OD). ?I was looking at your 80 x 80mm connector wondering just that. ?I¡¯m needing 80mm OD to OD for a hose splice.? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:51 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Great suggestion Brian! Thanks?
Bill B You might want to add to your Etsy listings the sizes that the adapters fit. Say the rectangular, list it fits over a 30mm x 80mm port and fits a 4¡± hose on the outside on the round end. That way the customer can measure their machine and be sure they fit.
On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
I might have made one of those Richard. If you can measure the rectangular part of the port, I can check. Then whatever hose size you need for the round. Unless I¡¯m misunderstanding?something. Unfortunately I¡¯ve been making parts for folks and not documenting what machine ?they are for. My bad¡
Bill Bhe?
Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Wade, ? Yeah, if you have a long enough hose you can do that.? The request is really for the adapter.? These 120mm ports are basically 5¡±.? I would like to connect a 6¡± hose to reduce the hose CFM restriction.? Oneida makes a 120mm to 6¡± sheet metal reducer, but it¡¯s about 14¡± long (way too long!). ? -Aaron ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wade Dees
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 6:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Bill Belanger's products on Etsy? Do you remove the collector hose each time you turn the operation over on the jointer/planer combo machine? ?I was thinking that if you have some extra ¡°slack¡± in the hose length, that it just flips over to the other side of the machine without having to disconnect each time, no? ?Seems I see people doing it this way, but not 100% certain. Won¡¯t get my combo unit until June, to see for myself. ?
On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:35 PM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:
? Hi Bill, ? One of the things I¡¯m going to ask from you is a ¡°120mm port to 6¡± hose adapter¡±.? So that we can quickly connect/disconnect a 6¡± hose from things like a Felder jointer/planer and edge sander. ?Not urgent because I won¡¯t be able to buy until March 16, but I would want to order two of these.? You¡¯ve got all sorts of adapters, but I¡¯m surprised nobody has asked for this one. ? -Aaron ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Bill Belanger's products on Etsy ? Thanks for the kind words and I¡¯m so happy that you¡¯re happy!!! Let me know if you need anything else. ? Bill,
Both items you have shipped me have been great.? They fit well and the color match is even great.
Keep it coming!
PK
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Great suggestion Brian! Thanks?
Bill B
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You might want to add to your Etsy listings the sizes that the adapters fit. Say the rectangular, list it fits over a 30mm x 80mm port and fits a 4¡± hose on the outside on the round end. That way the customer can measure their machine and be sure they fit.
On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
I might have made one of those Richard. If you can measure the rectangular part of the port, I can check. Then whatever hose size you need for the round. Unless I¡¯m misunderstanding?something. Unfortunately I¡¯ve been making parts for folks and not documenting what machine ?they are for. My bad¡
Bill Bhe?
Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Cast iron table flatness issue
#k700s
Mark, thanks for your response. I did get it that no one was suggesting that simple deflection is the only possible cause of the dip near the trunnion. However, this idea did get most of the coverage with the possibility of a??localised dip being largely ignored. Even in my case, I wouldn¡¯t swear that it¡¯s not deflection caused by the weight of the trunnion.
The problem I have is it if my machine does have a localised dip, then I can safely jack the top up to remove the deflection component, but any further jacking, which attempts to remove the dip does impose additional load on the cast-iron top.
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Re: Altendorf, The inventor of the slider
Jason, I wondered the same thing. I believe a Felder saw with the same safety feature is about US$45,000.
if it was a $5,000 upgrade to my K700S I would have bought it. Adding over $30k put it out of reach.
Watching the fellow demonstrate the safety feature by sliding his hand into the blade without even looking made me squirm. For my entire life I¡¯ve been taught to use safety devices but to never rely on them.?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Aaron,
Do you remove the collector hose each time you turn the operation over on the jointer/planer combo machine? ?I was thinking that if you have some extra ¡°slack¡± in the hose length, that it just flips over to the other side of the machine without having to disconnect each time, no? ?Seems I see people doing it this way, but not 100% certain. Won¡¯t get my combo unit until June, to see for myself. ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:35 PM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:
? Hi Bill, ? One of the things I¡¯m going to ask from you is a ¡°120mm port to 6¡± hose adapter¡±.? So that we can quickly connect/disconnect a 6¡± hose from things like a Felder jointer/planer and edge sander. ?Not urgent because I won¡¯t be able to buy until March 16, but I would want to order two of these.? You¡¯ve got all sorts of adapters, but I¡¯m surprised nobody has asked for this one. ? -Aaron ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Bill Belanger's products on Etsy ? Thanks for the kind words and I¡¯m so happy that you¡¯re happy!!! Let me know if you need anything else. ? Bill,
Both items you have shipped me have been great.? They fit well and the color match is even great.
Keep it coming!
PK
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Hi Bill, ? One of the things I¡¯m going to ask from you is a ¡°120mm port to 6¡± hose adapter¡±.? So that we can quickly connect/disconnect a 6¡± hose from things like a Felder jointer/planer and edge sander. ?Not urgent because I won¡¯t be able to buy until March 16, but I would want to order two of these.? You¡¯ve got all sorts of adapters, but I¡¯m surprised nobody has asked for this one. ? -Aaron ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Bill Belanger's products on Etsy ? Thanks for the kind words and I¡¯m so happy that you¡¯re happy!!! Let me know if you need anything else. ? Bill,
Both items you have shipped me have been great.? They fit well and the color match is even great.
Keep it coming!
PK
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
You might want to add to your Etsy listings the sizes that the adapters fit. Say the rectangular, list it fits over a 30mm x 80mm port and fits a 4¡± hose on the outside on the round end. That way the customer can measure their machine and be sure they fit.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com
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On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
I might have made one of those Richard. If you can measure the rectangular part of the port, I can check. Then whatever hose size you need for the round. Unless I¡¯m misunderstanding?something. Unfortunately I¡¯ve been making parts for folks and not documenting what machine ?they are for. My bad¡
Bill Bhe?
Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
I might have made one of those Richard. If you can measure the rectangular part of the port, I can check. Then whatever hose size you need for the round. Unless I¡¯m misunderstanding?something. Unfortunately I¡¯ve been making parts for folks and not documenting what machine ?they are for. My bad¡
Bill B
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Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Since we're on the subject of Bill's store ... is there one of those rectangular to round dust ports available for a Hammer K3/B3? Original hose was lost and I have a makeshift thing in place, but I'd like to get something that captures a bit more dust in there.
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Re: Altendorf, The inventor of the slider
I've got the Stiles rep coming out tomorrow. I'm dying to know what that saw cost. I love the feature of the outrigger pivoting for miter cuts, and cutting on both sides of the fence would be great. The hand saving tech I'm sure would pay for itself in one trip to the ER. It would be a nice upgrade from the 80's Panhans...
Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Building, upgrading and servicing machines
Marty, I can understand putting off that task! At least you have the luxury?of doing it outside. Today it was 32 and rainy here in Minneapolis. No outside work for another couple months!
Do you refine with rasps and files after the grinder?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Bill Belanger's products on Etsy
Thanks for the kind words and I¡¯m so happy that you¡¯re happy!!! Let me know if you need anything else.
BB
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Bill,
Both items you have shipped me have been great.? They fit well and the color match is even great.
Keep it coming!
PK
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Re: Building, upgrading and servicing machines
Hi Derek:
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A couple of questions below, all with thanks for taking the time to post. There¡¯s a lot in your post for the forum! Cheers.
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- It is very nice to see Festo gear in your shop. I¡¯m an early adopter too. Many colleagues in Brisbane have no idea that Festool used to be Festo. I only
discovered that ¡°Festo¡± still exists when I saw Festo branded compressed air fittings on my RL250.
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- I had forgotten about your Incra ¡°parallel fence¡± adaptation which is very cool and I can see pre-eminently useful. I have long wanted something similar
¨C hence the following questions:
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- How do you attach the guide to the slider? It appears you have it attached to the edge of your slider, and also presumably to the table slot? (Since
my slider is different I¡¯ll have to adapt your solution, but I¡¯d be grateful for any details of what you¡¯ve done.)
- You mentioned the guide and cross cut stop has been calibrated to be equal ¨C which is essential of course for parallel rips. Do you have a quick method
for doing this?
- You mentioned being able to move the parallel guide quickly and easily ¨C music to my ears ¨C but do you have to calibrate the guide every time you move
it?
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Thanks.
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After completing furniture building deadlines, I enjoy taking some time to clean the workshop, clean the machines, and build a tool or two. I have recently completed two bedside tables for my son and daughter-in-law,
sent them a new base for a chest of drawers (which had been damaged in move from Sydney to Canberra), and then built a new bed for my wife and myself. The latter is below ...
Old bed (solid Jarrah, built 25 years ago) ...
New bed ..
Curved head board ...
Anyway, I hope some of the following will be interesting and, better still, useful for yourself.
I had purchased a never-used 20 year old Festool tracksaw, and decided to build a MFT to find out what all the fuss is about. I thought that, sawing aside, the MFT would work well for holding small parts for routing and sanding, as well as an assembly table
and outfeed for the K3 slider and A3-31 jointer. Details on routing the holes here:??
The MFT has a flip up/down extension, as well as an old Record vice. The top is a 25mm thick panel ...
Owing to the exorbitant cost of MFT hinges for tracks in Oz, I decided to build my own in aluminium ...
And fence from a 6020 extrusion ...
Details for all are here:??
I fine-tuned the parallel guide for my Hammer K3 slider. This involved swapping out the connecting hex bolts for knobs, and adding a stop on the fence face. The knobs allow the parallel guide to be moved easily and quickly along the slider for different lengths
of boards ...
The parallel guide and cross cut stops are calibrated to be equal ...
The fine adjuster for the crosscut fence received new knobs ..
Two years ago I completed a new router table and fence in the outfeed of the K3 ...
For a while I've been meaning to change the way the fence is adjusted. Here it is running on a track, and the tall knobs clamp it down. But the downside of this system is that there is no micro-adjust.
Today I got around to modifying the router table fence by connecting it to the rip fence ...
The router table fence was built out of 8040 extrusion, and the side supports are 8020 extrusion attached with brackets ...
The side supports are connected to the K3 rip fence track. This makes it a simple matter to loosen and remove until needed ...
The fence is not only linked to the rip fence, but also adjusted by its micro adjuster. Not only that, but there is a Wixey digital gauge, and this both aids in monitoring the amount of adjustment, as well as marking
a position and returning to it ...
Lastly ...
Sooner or later your blade adjuster on your K3 will become stiff and require two hands to turn the wheel. It may take a few years, but it will occur, and then you will need to lube the mechanism.
I know Chris Parks has a modification he has made, but I barely knew where the mechanism was, let alone had the courage to do this.
About a year ago I called in Felder to sort it out, as the local guys are good folk and very responsive. They came out, but I was not that happy with the result. The adjuster felt stiffer still than when original. And it cost me a couple of hundred bucks. The
adjuster was so stiff in recent weeks, that even two hands was a struggle.
This weekend I decided to do it myself. The result was very successful, and I wanted to pass on what I did.
First you have to open up access to the winder. Remove the switch panel ...
Slide away the box ...
The thread with the blade lowered all the way ...
The thread with the blade fully up ...
After cleaning all the dust inside the cabinet, and then blowing out any remaining dust, a silicon spray was directed at the thread. This was repeated several times with the winder in-and-out. It made little if any difference.
When Felder were here a year ago, the technician used lithium grease. So I sprayed this on, again repeatedly, and wound the handle in-and-out. A little imrovement, but not much better than Felder achieved.
Finally I added a bunch of graphite to the thread, and wound it in-and-out. This made a big difference. And the more I wound the wheel, the better it got. I am not sure if the graphite helped clear any remaining gunk, or whether it was the lubricant needed.
I returned to the wheel later, and it was now winding up (down is always easy) very comfortably with one hand.
Those who have done this might chip in her with anthing else to be done or tried.
I did add some graphite to the slider, and this really smoothed it.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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Re: Cast iron table flatness issue
#k700s
Like the doors on my Fiat Spider, they wouldn't open when the car was on a lift supporting the frame.? Kind of scary.
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Christophe Dauchy
David P. Best
Bill Belanger
Jason Holtz
David Luckensmeyer
Jonathan Smith