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Re: Buying vs building tools - the rationale for creating a MFT Table
Derek. Love seeing your home made jigs. Personally I get far more satisfaction in designing and making a jig than buying one. Also wish we could see more of your woodworking?skills on here, you are truly a master craftsman! Kindest regards Jonathan Samways On Sun, 5 Mar 2023, 7:52 am Derek Cohen, <derekcohen@...> wrote: Brian asked:?My question for you on currency rates is how does the Australian dollar hold against Australian product? Wages vs. cost? What¡¯s an average wage and what does a loaf of bread or a dozen eggs cost? Or even better, a pound of aluminum and what does anodizing cost? Those are my biggest expenses. This is out of my own curiosity¡. |
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Re: Festool Clamp Adapter K940
I've used this timber design for many?years. I made a few lengths out of scrap and modify them as needed. Last week I added a threaded metal insert to aid fixing jigs to the slider. Kindest regards Jonathan Samways On Sun, 5 Mar 2023, 8:49 am Bill Belanger, <Bill@...> wrote:
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Re: Festool Clamp Adapter K940
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYup, going into the store. Printed and tested. Works great. Bill On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 12:02?AM David P. Best via <dbestworkshop=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Festool Clamp Adapter K940
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat¡¯s a nice design Mike. ?Maybe Bill Belanger could add this to his Etsy offerings. ?The STL file is here:For those who don¡¯t remember, it looks like this:  David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Buying vs building tools - the rationale for creating a MFT Table
Brian asked:?
My question for you on currency rates is how does the Australian dollar hold against Australian product? Wages vs. cost? What¡¯s an average wage and what does a loaf of bread or a dozen eggs cost? Or even better, a pound of aluminum and what does anodizing cost? Those are my biggest expenses. This is out of my own curiosity¡. Recently I decided to build a MFT with track hinge and fence.? Why build and not just purchase? Well, I was not sure if I would find a MFT useful for sawing (although I could see the value as an assembly table, and for hold work for routing and sanding). Plus the Festool MFT locally cost $1600 AUD ($800 USD in the USA), which was a lot to satisfy my curiosity.? In addition, reading the other FOG (Festool Owners Group), the Festool hinge system (for the rail on the MFT) had come in for quite a bit of criticism, and the preferred aftermarket hinges came from Benchdogs and Dashboard. The Benchdogs hinge is??190?from the UK ($340 AUD), and the Dashboard is $290 USD (or $430 AUD) before shipping costs are added in. The Benchdogs fence was another??90 ($160 AUD).? So it came down to $1600 from Festool Australia vs around $800 from Benchdogs for the hinge and fence, and still need a MFT table top. These are all at least twice the cost of comparable items in the USA. I would add that the cost of living in Australia is than the USA, and so the 100% higher cost of tools indicates how much ground we have to make up. Further, average income in Australia ($57K USD p.a.) is about 25% lower than in the USA ($71K USD p.a.).?? I decided to build my own. Total costs: $50 for materials from a woodworking friend with CNC to make a template to rout the holes for a MFT top. And then around $90 for 6mm aluminium sheets to machine a hinge (using basic woodworking tools, such as a bandsaw, router and drill).? Was it worth the effort? Was this false economy? 1200mm x 600mm MFT table (plus 300mm extension) ...
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Re: Scoring blade noise
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI guess I¡¯d like to hear it with the main saw blade removed so it¡¯s not making noise, and with dust extraction or other noises eliminated. ?David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: Scoring blade noise
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSomething is clearly wrong here - the scoring saw should not make a noise like that. ?I hazard a guess or two - total SWAG:The scoring saw blade or saw arbor is not installed properly and is causing excessive vibration, or? The scoring saw motor is not getting proper power. Is this a single-phase machine? ?Is the scoring saw rotating when you turn it on? David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: Festool Clamp Adapter K940
David, I¡¯ve used the clamps with a 5 mm X 30 mm X 4 inch piece of hard maple in the slot on ?top of the clamp leg. Your design would add substantial strength and stability. Thanks for the design file. Tim House On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 7:01 PM David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
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Re: Festool Clamp Adapter K940
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf either of the following Festool clamps are what you¡¯re referring to, then they DO NOT secure into the T-slot in the Felder sliding tables without an adapter.I¡¯ve modeled up the type of adapter you would need as shown below. ?If this is what you need, I can post a drawing with dimensions and you can make your own out of hardwood, or I can DM you or anyone else a STEP file and they can 3D print the thing. These are the approximate dimensions: David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best |
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Re: Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIs there a discount for fans of the (original, not the sucky US version) tv series ¡°Rake¡± that helps with shipping, or is this discouraged or frowned upon among our more sophisticated on the other side of the equator? ? In looking a David Best¡¯s photos I can only imagine a future of nano management of the cellular structure of wood that does not require a mega quantum force of metallurgy over a 2x4 to create a stick of furniture.? Something like a play doh factory for 29 USD with the same level of required programming skill. ? I am imagining the next brand of Felder to be small nuclear reactors that power a cyclonic synergistic set of tools that will produce a table with breakfast on top, with the right precision of course, after various and sundry missing parts and small scale nuclear disasters occur requiring multiple visits from factory reps.? And of course all of the dust would be sent back to Austria directly from the collectors in order to produce the world¡¯s leading compressed Larch supply. ? I continue to reserve my option to resort to chain saw precision, or what must be a Japanese tradition of growing trees with specific dimensioned dovetail drawers with Blum hardware included, whichever is easier, cheaper, or better. ? Someone mentioned having a ¡°good one¡±, and with no antecedent I did not know if that referred to the wife in discussion or to something else.? This is a broad ranging group discussion, so I thought I would ask!! ? All the very best to those who know what they are doing, and on to your more serious commentary¡ ? Erik ? ? ? From: David Luckensmeyer
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 19:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ? Hi Derek: ? I thought I expressed that sentiment? Apologies if I wasn¡¯t clear enough. I like your fixture a lot, particularly as we both do a lot of solid wood projects and use hand tools. I¡¯m grateful for your extra explanations of the what and how of your solution. I¡¯m thinking about making my own solution along similar lines.? ? However, this is a forum. People expressed their views about buying rather than making. Some agreed and some disagreed. I don¡¯t think there was any intention to express rudeness? Just robust views.? ? Greetings from Brisbane. ? ? Lucky From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> ? I¡¯m so very pleased for you Lourens. Your KF700 costs about four times my K3. Clearly, you have more discretional spending available than I, or your priorities are different.? ? |
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Re: Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDerek:
Now you¡¯re cooking with gas! I¡¯d forgotten about your taper jig. Nice!
Warm regards,
Lucky
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 11:28:09 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3 ?
Derek, that¡¯s great that you have something that works for you. How do you do tapers and angles with that wide jig on the end?Brian, actually simple enough. The stop on the Incra fence slides along the face ¡ All one has to do is run it to the near end. That will provide a very secure nook for the end of the board to be tapered. Further, since there is a stop, cuts are repeatable.? Of course, if you really want to go nuts cutting tapers, then this is the ultimate fixture for a slider ¡ Article: ? Regards from Perth Derek ? |
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Re: Parallel Guide for Hammer K3 mk3
Derek, that¡¯s great that you have something that works for you. How do you do tapers and angles with that wide jig on the end?Brian, actually simple enough. The stop on the Incra fence slides along the face ¡   All one has to do is run it to the near end. That will provide a very secure nook for the end of the board to be tapered. Further, since there is a stop, cuts are repeatable.? Of course, if you really want to go nuts cutting tapers, then this is the ultimate fixture for a slider ¡  Article: ? After turning ...  Brian, the second part of your reply involved finances. I shall post to this in a new thread as it is easier to illustrate with another fixture I built (as I could not justify the costs of a new one). I think that this will be welcomed by those with a similar outlook and need to myself. Later. Regards from Perth Derek ? |
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