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1968 convertable

 

White with blue stripes could be a Indy 500 pace car


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On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:

?My best guess is that it will bring 22,000


69 Mecum auctions results

 

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I forgot to add the hammer prices.?

69 red fastback that needed a lot under the hood. $52,800

69 GT convertible ?$26,400

69 white GT no sale bidding continued $30,000


On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Jim Volmert <jimmyvolmert@...> wrote:

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On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:

?My best guess is that it will bring 22,000


Re: 68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST

 

My best guess is that it will bring 22,000


Re: 68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST

 

Forgot to add this earlier so here is the direct link to it

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1968-FORD-TORINO-GT-CONVERTIBLE-237848

1968 Torino GT Convertible Y Code.

Will be interesting what it sells for as there is NO Reserve.


David from WNY


On Monday, January 13, 2020, 6:08:15 PM EST, D. Hadley via Groups.Io <dhadley390@...> wrote:


Ok it is #68 in the list & is a 1968 Torino Convertible, White w/ Blue C stripe, Originally a Y Code 390 modded to 4V & Dual Exhaust.

They are currently at # 49 on the list.


Here is the page to the streaming.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Live/Streaming/Video/d114c99a-0e71-46b2-8cde-20a53c127270/BLOCK

David from WNY


On Monday, January 13, 2020, 2:09:24 PM EST, D. Hadley via Groups.Io <dhadley390@...> wrote:


Sorry for the late posting of this BUT a buddy of mine JUST called me to let me know there was going to be a 68 or 69 Torino (white) being sold at the Barrett Jackson Auction & it will be in the 50s count for placement in the cars being auctioned from what he told me & didn't know when it would cross the auction block (though being around the 50s it I would think would be fairly early. The streaming starts at 2PM EST. IF anyone has more details on this please let us know. Thanks.




David from WNY




Re: 68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST

 

Ok it is #68 in the list & is a 1968 Torino Convertible, White w/ Blue C stripe, Originally a Y Code 390 modded to 4V & Dual Exhaust.

They are currently at # 49 on the list.


Here is the page to the streaming.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Live/Streaming/Video/d114c99a-0e71-46b2-8cde-20a53c127270/BLOCK

David from WNY


On Monday, January 13, 2020, 2:09:24 PM EST, D. Hadley via Groups.Io <dhadley390@...> wrote:


Sorry for the late posting of this BUT a buddy of mine JUST called me to let me know there was going to be a 68 or 69 Torino (white) being sold at the Barrett Jackson Auction & it will be in the 50s count for placement in the cars being auctioned from what he told me & didn't know when it would cross the auction block (though being around the 50s it I would think would be fairly early. The streaming starts at 2PM EST. IF anyone has more details on this please let us know. Thanks.




David from WNY




68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST

 

Sorry for the late posting of this BUT a buddy of mine JUST called me to let me know there was going to be a 68 or 69 Torino (white) being sold at the Barrett Jackson Auction & it will be in the 50s count for placement in the cars being auctioned from what he told me & didn't know when it would cross the auction block (though being around the 50s it I would think would be fairly early. The streaming starts at 2PM EST. IF anyone has more details on this please let us know. Thanks.




David from WNY


Re: Build Sheet

 

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Hello Group,

I have published this all many times, but since the topic came up again...

Here the recorded locations that build sheets have been found.

Seats - (placed here by the trim team)
Inside the seat front backs (buckets or Bench)
Between the main springs and foam seat bottoms (Front or Rear)

Flooring - (Placed when body heads to final assembly)
Under the carpet in any location
Under the trunk mat
Inside the Passenger Kick Panel

Random
There have been two found above the headliner
There has been one found behind the sail panel
There have been four found above the glove box, usually wrapped to the harness
There was one found in the quarter dog leg (Probably started under the trunk mat)

The reality is that, other than the seating, these can be found wherever they were
deposited by the line personnel. So you should look for them and take care to preserve
them. When and if you find them look at the rotation number, and then compare to the
rotation number on your car. Your rotation number can be found a variety of places but most
common are the outside of the front fender apron near the core support. The second
most common location is the drivers side behind there rear bumper on the tail panel.

You can find multiple copies of your build sheet, you can also find copies of build
sheets for other vehicles. You can also get the rotation number in multiple location and
have them be different. These things happened and have been documented. But don't
ask me why, I can only say 'because humans were involved".

Best of luck to you.
-- 
============================================================ I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know? ============================================================

On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 20:57 -0800, Peter Mahaits wrote:
Dave,

Yes, I have also heard of build sheets under the rear seat.

As I still have my original bill of sale,? for the Boss 429, I have the VIN for it.
This could be interesting.

Thanks for the stories. Most interesting and educational.

Major winter blizzard here today.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.

On 2020-01-12 4:27 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
Pete I gave in a previous email/post a list of locations where the Build Sheet might be located (IF it still survives in the car). The Build Sheet for my 68 Fairlane 500 was located in the back seat between the springs & cushions (IIRC it was the Bottom section). I managed to get it out WITHOUT damage. BUT it would be easier, safer & BEST to have a helper or 2 to hold the springs away while another person carefully fishes out the Build Sheet. Remember these are VARY fragile & brittle due to the age of the paper. It would also be BEST to take clear pics of it BEFORE removal of it (IF you find it).

Dave & Pete, Marti has SOME Original Ford Invoices for specific cars built in Lorain available for sale. You can check his website to get a list of what cars & prices.

.

Dave Scroll down the page to where the 70 & 71 Torino Cobras are & click on your year. It will take you to another page to enter info. The type tires will be likely be listed (like shown in the example they have posted a pic of).

Pete scroll down to the Boss 429 section.


On Friday, January 10, 2020, 2:24:18 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:


Dave,

Look for the build sheet under the drivers seating location, between
the stuffing and the springs that hold up the seat pan.

No disassembly required, just a flashlight and a bit of careful handling
when getting it unstuck.

Pete from the Loops.
.

On 2020-01-10 10:29 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:
The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?
I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.
?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?
We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?
Dave Buchanan


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits
David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Build Sheet

 


Pete what ever happened to your Boss 9 ? Please tell us a story if you will. :)

As to the story abt the Vet & Customs. The agent said that it wouldn't matter IF the car was originally build in the US, but because it was exported to Canada you would still need documentation from GM US stating said Vet meets/met US DOT & Emission laws.

Now what is interesting much more recently is there have been articles on Yahoo abt specific cars (performance cars from Japan or other countries) that are now 25 years old. The reason for this is those cars were NEVER allowed into the US because they were NOT built to meet US DOT safety & Emission laws. But NOW that they are 25+ years old they are EXEMPT from that & can now be imported into the US. Now at the time that we asked abt the Vet it wasn't 25 yet & I also don't think that law in it's current form was around then because we also asked abt older cars & it was the same thing we would have had to get documentation from the US based manufacture of that car stating it met safety & emissions laws/standards. Anyways...

You might have gotten some the efects of the weather that blew through yesterday at 40+ MPH it was wet & windy for a bit & then it was gone.

David from WNY

On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 11:57:31 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:


Dave,

Yes, I have also heard of build sheets under the rear seat.

As I still have my original bill of sale,? for the Boss 429, I have the VIN for it.
This could be interesting.

Thanks for the stories. Most interesting and educational.

Major winter blizzard here today.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.

On 2020-01-12 4:27 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
Pete I gave in a previous email/post a list of locations where the Build Sheet might be located (IF it still survives in the car). The Build Sheet for my 68 Fairlane 500 was located in the back seat between the springs & cushions (IIRC it was the Bottom section). I managed to get it out WITHOUT damage. BUT it would be easier, safer & BEST to have a helper or 2 to hold the springs away while another person carefully fishes out the Build Sheet. Remember these are VARY fragile & brittle due to the age of the paper. It would also be BEST to take clear pics of it BEFORE removal of it (IF you find it).

Dave & Pete, Marti has SOME Original Ford Invoices for specific cars built in Lorain available for sale. You can check his website to get a list of what cars & prices.

.

Dave Scroll down the page to where the 70 & 71 Torino Cobras are & click on your year. It will take you to another page to enter info. The type tires will be likely be listed (like shown in the example they have posted a pic of).

Pete scroll down to the Boss 429 section.


On Friday, January 10, 2020, 2:24:18 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:


Dave,

Look for the build sheet under the drivers seating location, between
the stuffing and the springs that hold up the seat pan.

No disassembly required, just a flashlight and a bit of careful handling
when getting it unstuck.

Pete from the Loops.
.

On 2020-01-10 10:29 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:
The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?
I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.
?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?
We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?
Dave Buchanan


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits
David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Build Sheet

 

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Dave,

Yes, I have also heard of build sheets under the rear seat.

As I still have my original bill of sale,? for the Boss 429, I have the VIN for it.
This could be interesting.

Thanks for the stories. Most interesting and educational.

Major winter blizzard here today.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.

On 2020-01-12 4:27 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:

Pete I gave in a previous email/post a list of locations where the Build Sheet might be located (IF it still survives in the car). The Build Sheet for my 68 Fairlane 500 was located in the back seat between the springs & cushions (IIRC it was the Bottom section). I managed to get it out WITHOUT damage. BUT it would be easier, safer & BEST to have a helper or 2 to hold the springs away while another person carefully fishes out the Build Sheet. Remember these are VARY fragile & brittle due to the age of the paper. It would also be BEST to take clear pics of it BEFORE removal of it (IF you find it).

Dave & Pete, Marti has SOME Original Ford Invoices for specific cars built in Lorain available for sale. You can check his website to get a list of what cars & prices.

.

Dave Scroll down the page to where the 70 & 71 Torino Cobras are & click on your year. It will take you to another page to enter info. The type tires will be likely be listed (like shown in the example they have posted a pic of).

Pete scroll down to the Boss 429 section.


On Friday, January 10, 2020, 2:24:18 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:


Dave,

Look for the build sheet under the drivers seating location, between
the stuffing and the springs that hold up the seat pan.

No disassembly required, just a flashlight and a bit of careful handling
when getting it unstuck.

Pete from the Loops.
.

On 2020-01-10 10:29 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:
The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?
I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.
?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?
We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?
Dave Buchanan


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits
David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Build Sheet

 

Pete I gave in a previous email/post a list of locations where the Build Sheet might be located (IF it still survives in the car). The Build Sheet for my 68 Fairlane 500 was located in the back seat between the springs & cushions (IIRC it was the Bottom section). I managed to get it out WITHOUT damage. BUT it would be easier, safer & BEST to have a helper or 2 to hold the springs away while another person carefully fishes out the Build Sheet. Remember these are VARY fragile & brittle due to the age of the paper. It would also be BEST to take clear pics of it BEFORE removal of it (IF you find it).

Dave & Pete, Marti has SOME Original Ford Invoices for specific cars built in Lorain available for sale. You can check his website to get a list of what cars & prices.

https://www.martiauto.com/originalinvoices.cfm .

Dave Scroll down the page to where the 70 & 71 Torino Cobras are & click on your year. It will take you to another page to enter info. The type tires will be likely be listed (like shown in the example they have posted a pic of).

Pete scroll down to the Boss 429 section.


On Friday, January 10, 2020, 2:24:18 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:


Dave,

Look for the build sheet under the drivers seating location, between
the stuffing and the springs that hold up the seat pan.

No disassembly required, just a flashlight and a bit of careful handling
when getting it unstuck.

Pete from the Loops.
.

On 2020-01-10 10:29 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:
The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?
I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.
?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?
We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?
Dave Buchanan


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits
David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Tires

 

Your memory is correct Pete. My point was that even if a car is built in the US it would have had to have been at some point "Exported" in this case to Canada be it by Ford OR by the buyer. Which MIGHT have required specific things be installed or different than US bound cars based on Canadian requirements & laws. Now the fact that the Data plate had/has that "Special Performance" clause may OR may not have exempted the car from those requirements. I don't know, just stating a possibility that could/might have happened. I don't know all the ins & outs for doing this back then or now on any car.

I am going to tell you a couple true stories.

One is common knowledge & that in the mid 60s Mustangs bound for export to Europe, Specifically Germany HAD to have ALL Mustang badging removed & in their place a T-5 was used. This was to comply with laws due to the fact that there was a company that owned the rights to the Mustang name in Europe/Germany & they would NOT license or sell the rights to use the Mustang name or images in Europe/Germany.

The last story is that years ago my dad & I were traveling to Canada for a Yankees game. While at the boarder I inquired about what was required to to buy a car in Canada & then bring it back into the US. The Customs Agent told us that in order to bring the Car into the US we would have to get documentation from GM US (as we were asking abt a Corvette that would have been a great deal on the face of it due to asking price & exchange rate) that stated the car "WOULD Pass ALL US Emission & Safety [re crash standards] Laws), the SAME would be true for ANY car/manufacture being bought in Canada & brought back into the US & the SAME would be true for WHAT EVER Canada would require for a car bought in the US & brought back into Canada.

This is WHY I brought up the possibility that things like tires MIGHT need to be changed either due to safety laws (DOT of Canada) OR even Licensing/Duty laws based on the maker & model of the tires & where they were made and where things like that would need to be sourced from. I don't know all the in & outs of this BUT do know it happens/is a thing. All I know is it can be complicated navigating it.


David from WNY

On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 11:50:56 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:


David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Build Sheet

 

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Dave,

Look for the build sheet under the drivers seating location, between
the stuffing and the springs that hold up the seat pan.

No disassembly required, just a flashlight and a bit of careful handling
when getting it unstuck.

Pete from the Loops.
.

On 2020-01-10 10:29 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:

The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?
I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.
?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?
We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?
Dave Buchanan


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits
David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Tires

 

The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?
I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.
?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?
We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?
Dave Buchanan


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits
<Astro@...> wrote:
David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.



On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
>
> Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.
>
> I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.
>
> Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.
>
> Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.
>
> Please report back.
>
>
> David from WNY
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan
>
>? On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
>? <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
>
>
>? On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
>? <dhadley390=[email protected]> wrote:
>? Dave,
>
>? I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.
>
>? Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.
>
>? Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.
>
>? David from WNY
>? On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave=[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>? My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan
>
>? from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Tires

 

David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR, decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.

On 2020-01-09 5:58 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.

Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.

I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.

Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.

Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.

Please report back.


David from WNY




On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
<nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
<dhadley390@...> wrote:
Dave,

I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.

Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.

Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.

David from WNY
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan

from Yahoo Mail on Android




Re: Tires

 

One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.

Will be interesting to hear what the Marti Report states.

I know that Ford at least at some point had had a good relationship with Firestone. But with more powerful & better performing cars it might be possible that they didn't have a better tire at that time for use.

Dave another though is to check the spare tire, that is IF the car still has the spare. You MIGHT get lucky & it has it's Original Spare Tire which I would think would be the same as what was on the car.

Dave did you & your brother search the car for the Build Sheet? You SHOULD do this no matter what. Provided the interior &/or the original seats are still in the car.

Please report back.


David from WNY

On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 6:23:34 AM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
<nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
<dhadley390@...> wrote:
Dave,

I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.

Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.

Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.

David from WNY
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered but isnt here yet. Dave Buchanan

from Yahoo Mail on Android


Re: Tires

 


Thanks Pete. From the sounds of that it would seem that the same tires came on that Cobra. Dave Buchanan

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM, Dave Buchanan
<nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing art this point. Dave Buchanan


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
<dhadley390@...> wrote:
Dave,

I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.

Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.

Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.

David from WNY
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered bu


Re: Tires

 

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Dave,

For what it's worth, I used to have a 1970 Boss 429 Mustang. It came factory equipped
with Goodyear Polyglas GT F60-15 tires on all wheels. Raised white lettering.

I actually have 2 of them that I bought around 1976. Still serviceable for show, with a bit of tread left.

My memory tells me that Goodyear was an extremely common supplier to Ford at that time.

So I'm going with the above.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
.

On 2020-01-08 3:21 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:

Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing art this point. Dave Buchanan


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
Dave,

I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.

Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.

Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.

David from WNY
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered bu



Re: Tires

 

Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing art this point. Dave Buchanan


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM, D. Hadley via Groups.Io
<dhadley390@...> wrote:
Dave,

I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.

Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.

Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.

David from WNY
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered bu


Re: Tires

 

Dave,

I suspect they are 15" as for the rest it could be any of those. A lot can depend on what the customer (which could be the dealer or a person who walked in & ordered the car) ordered IF ordered different from factory equipped for that series (in this case Cobra). Has he found the Build Sheet in the car (under the carpet, under seat springs front or back both bottoms & backs, under the dash maybe above the glovebox)? Where was this car made? I think & am fairly sure the Wide Ovals (which were Bias Ply) were still installed on the 1970 Ford performance cars but can't remember for 100%.

Radials were an Option back in 1968 & IF I remember correctly even in 1967. So it is easily possible that his car could have been Ordered with them at customers request.

Hopefully someone has more solid info on the 1970 Torinos.

David from WNY
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 4:52:50 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:



My older brother has a 1970 Cobra. 429 j code I think and he was wondering what tires that the car originally had. Were they Goodyear? Firestone? Raised white letter? Polyglas? He has all of the original steel rims so the size is kind of known A Marti report has been ordered bu