Dave,

Yes, I have also heard of build sheets under the rear seat.

As I still have my original bill of sale,? for the Boss 429, I have the VIN for it.
This could be interesting.

Thanks for the stories. Most interesting and educational.

Major winter blizzard here today.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
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On 2020-01-12 4:27 p.m., D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:

Pete I gave in a previous email/post a list of locations where the Build Sheet might be located (IF it still survives in the car). The Build Sheet for my 68 Fairlane 500 was located in the back seat between the springs & cushions (IIRC it was the Bottom section). I managed to get it out WITHOUT damage. BUT it would be easier, safer & BEST to have a helper or 2 to hold the springs away while another person carefully fishes out the Build Sheet. Remember these are VARY fragile & brittle due to the age of the paper. It would also be BEST to take clear pics of it BEFORE removal of it (IF you find it).

Dave & Pete, Marti has SOME Original Ford Invoices for specific cars built in Lorain available for sale. You can check his website to get a list of what cars & prices.

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Dave Scroll down the page to where the 70 & 71 Torino Cobras are & click on your year. It will take you to another page to enter info. The type tires will be likely be listed (like shown in the example they have posted a pic of).

Pete scroll down to the Boss 429 section.

On Friday, January 10, 2020, 2:24:18 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:

Dave,

Look for the build sheet under the drivers seating location, between
the stuffing and the springs that hold up the seat pan.

No disassembly required, just a flashlight and a bit of careful handling
when getting it unstuck.

Pete from the Loops.
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On 2020-01-10 10:29 a.m., Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io wrote:

The vin starts out 0H38C. According to Ford, that part shows it to have been made at the Loraine assembly plant.?

I would imagine the original spare has been long used up since he has no idea what tires it came with.

?As far as the build sheet, I am going to ask him. I don't think he has taken the car apart to look for it. I will suggest that to him when I talk to him next.?

We do know that the car was made on his 16th birthday. That is the day he was able to get his permit and drive here in NY.?

Dave Buchanan

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Peter Mahaits

<Astro@...> wrote:

David from WNY,

Yes I'm Canadian, but this was a Boss 429 Mustang that could only have
come from
Kar Kraft in Detroit, or wherever they were. It had the KK 429 NASCAR,
decal on the
drivers door, right above, or, below,? I think it was above, the metal
VIN tag, which also said,
at the bottom, "Special Performance Vehicle". I sure hope my memory is
serving me correctly here.

Anyway, for this conversation, the car involved most likely totally
deletes the Canadian concern.

With any other car, I would share your worries.

Cheerio,

Pete from the Loops
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>? One thing that could make things a little different is that Pete's car is/was a Canada car. And not knowing what Ford of Canada requirements might have been.
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>? Thanks Dave. The Ford research dept in Michigan told him that they would be F60-15 but they did not know the brand/style. They sold that info to Kevin Marti. He ordered an Elite report but doesn't have it yet. We are all guessing at this point. Dave Buchanan
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