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Engine Fires

Richard Golen
 

I received a couple of emails regarding my recent post about the engine
fire in my 93 EVs. Both folks asked if I had seen the recent postings about
loose fuel line connections. I was in Germany for most of the summer, and
obviously missed them.

Does anyone know how I can find these in the archives? If it turns out that
this is a "common" occurance, I'd like to get in touch with VoA.

Thanks.

Ric


Re: 93 EV Fuel Line Problem Survey

 

I spoke with Ralph Potter our local VW rep and he is going to check into this
problem.

I asked him to check with the factory trained mechanic and let me know what
type of repair they suggest for my leaking fuel lines.

We discussed the spring clamps that were put on at the factory and he
suggested that anytime a plastic fitting meets rubber hose to use the spring
clamp. I explained the rubber hose was connected to a metal fitting, and he
suggested the standard screw clamps.

He was unaware of any recall or service bulletin on fuel leaks, but said he
would check into it. I told him that this problem seems very common.

I'm going to cut my rubber hoses off short, insert a metal barbed fitting and
then add on new hoses. This should be a short term fix until I get a reply
from VW.

I'll post any information I receive back.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other Accessories for
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becker Mexico radio

 

I am interested in having a car radio that also receives shortwave
broadcasts. I finally located a Becker Mexico 2340. Apparantly they
are often used in Mercedes.

Does anyone have experience with these radios? They are a bit pricy --
about $435.00, but that is the price for listening to the BBC and Radio
Canada International.

Thanks much.

Leon Webster
97 Eurovan
"Casablanca"


Re: Tire Pressure 93 MV

InPhase ReSearch
 

From: "Marlon Hurst" <mghurst@...>

For those of you who drive this model with these tires, at what pressure do
you keep your tires. The recommended pressure on the door plate is 43
front & 48 back. (Of course, I asked them to put in this pressure, and
they filled them to 35 all around.)
Run them at 43/48. For everyday around town, you can run a few pounds
less (42/46), but when on the road, I run them at 43/48. I have over
40,000 on a set of Agilis (that I have only rotated 3-4 times). They have
hardly any wear on them, and are still quiet. When I had the Goodyear
C64's, at 40,000, they were worn terribly, and noisy as could be.

Enjoy your new purchase.

Tomas Jones
'93 MV


Re: 93 EV Fuel Line Problem Survey

Marlon Hurst
 

I have very recently purchased a 93 EVMV and on just a couple of occasions
have smelled fuel. I asked my mechanic to check it out when he was looking
at another problem (O2 sensor), but unfortunately, I had to pick it up
(after three whole days) before he had a chance to get to either problem.

I would not be surprised at all, though, to find a small leak. When I've
smelled it, it is coming from under the hood.

Marlon Hurst
Conyers, GA

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Golen <rgolen@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <vanagon@...>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 1:57 PM
Subject: [ev_update] 93 EV Fuel Line Problem Survey



As many of you know, my EV had an engine fire last weekend. I've since had
a close look at the engine compartment, and it would seem that the
majority
of damage is in the area where the fuel lines come together just above the
distributor.

I went to the NHTSA website and found three defect complaints on the 93
EVs
which relate to fuel leaks, one of which caused a fire. If in fact fuel
leaks are a common occurance in 93 EVs, I'd like to take VW to task.

My question to the group is, how many of you have had fuel leak problems
with your 93 EVs? Have any of you had an engine fire related to a fuel
leak?

Please let me know.


Thanks.


Ric

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Tire Pressure 93 MV

Marlon Hurst
 

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Thanks to this list, I also have replaced my former failing tires with a new set of Agilis on my 93MV (at Costco - thanks to the list again - as of last night).?
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For those of you who drive this model with these tires, at what pressure do you keep your tires.? The recommended pressure on the door plate is 43 front & 48 back.? (Of course, I asked them to put in this pressure, and they filled them to 35 all around.)
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I plan on getting out this afternoon and filling them to the recommended pressure, but would like to get some feedback from those of you with experience.
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Thanks,
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Marlon Hurst
Conyers, GA


Re: 93 MV cooling fans have stopped

Charles Gary Redmon
 

Another good supplier for Eurovan parts is Europarts in San Diego.
The web site is .

----- Original Message -----
From: Eckhard Rolz <erolz@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 8:52 PM
Subject: [ev_update] 93 MV cooling fans have stopped


Can anyone give me Camelback's phone # ?? Do they have a web site? I
usually order from Bus Depot but they have not responded to to
inquiries.
Thanks
Eckhard


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Re: 93 MV cooling fans have stopped

Jack Lowry
 

Camelback 800-576-5199. Make sure you indicate that you are out of state and
referred from the Eurovan list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eckhard Rolz [SMTP:erolz@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:52 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] 93 MV cooling fans have stopped

Can anyone give me Camelback's phone # ?? Do they have a web site? I
usually order from Bus Depot but they have not responded to to
inquiries.
Thanks
Eckhard


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Re: Tire Pressure 93 MV

 

In a message dated 9/10/99 10:08:16 AM EST, mghurst@... writes:

<< For those of you who drive this model with these tires, at what pressure
do you keep your tires. The recommended pressure on the door plate is 43
front & 48 back >>


I have 34,000 miles on the Agilis 51s and have settled on 43 front and 43-48
rear, depending upon intended load. If I am lightly loaded (just me and
wife), I will leave the rear at 43. If I load up with passengers and/or
"stuff" in the rear, I will raise the back pressure to 48. The tires appear
to be evenly wearing across the tires' width. I rotate front to back every
5,000 miles. I do use a gauge to periodically check the pressures (based on
experience, I have no trust in anyone else to ensure the pressures are at the
right level).

I have tried lower pressures in the front and did not like the feel of the
steering.

Bob Williams
93 Weekender with 130,000 miles


Re: EV5 timing belt

 

My VW dealer checked my belts last week and has now recomended at 68,000 miles to change them. I them check last time the van was in for an oil change (65,000)and they were ok. So it seems they can go bad at any time.BTW the cost will be around $550 YIKES!
Spencer
93 GL


Re: 1995 eurovan camper for sale

Rick Gordon
 

You might try Ham Radio Outlet, , althogh I haven't seen any Phillips
gear on their site, they sell lots of SWL gear, you should be able to find a scanner/receiver
for mobile use there. biggest problem will be finding what you want.

Can't tell you the place we ordered it from now as it was about 6 years
ago. I found the address in an ad that was in a shortwave radio
magazine that I picked up at the newstand. That's about the only way I
know to buy one for a car. And now I can't remember the name of the
magazine but if you go to a good newstand you'll find one. We love the
radio as it makes it possible to travel without losing a signal,
especially at night and other times in the a.m. when BBC comes in
strong.

DL


Re: Tires pressure

 

mik-@... wrote:

I am running 50psi on all fours. Ride is a bit harsh...but this is a
German truck that has been converted to a US minivan/camper.

^^IKE

original article:

I have an '97 EVC and just bought new tires, Michelin Agilis 51.
Tires size 205/65/R15C.
I kwew that the Eurovan door sticker say 51 psi front and 45 psi rear.
The Winnebago door sticker say 50 psi front and 50 psi rear.
Now the tire dealer has a "1999 Tires Guide" that rate the
1999 Eurovan Camper at only 42 psi front and 36 psi rear.
The guide do not have as reference for 1997 model year.
I always put 50 PSI in my tires but also always found the ride a bit
hard.

I will like comments on tires pressure if anyone is driving on less
than
Winnebago door sticker.

Thank you

Claude
'97 EVC


Re: VWofA repurchase EVC?

 

mik-@... wrote:

You might ask for the same option to return the vehicle as was
obviously offered to the original owner. This would give you the
ability to give it a shake-down risk-free.

Seems only fair.

^^IKE

original article:
Curt,

What do you need all those troubles for? It may look like you'll save
some
$$ now, but have a really good chance to get in a lot more expensive
troubles later (they will tell you whatever you want, they will not
loose
any $$). On top of that not many people have enough experience with
EV, so
even minor problem sometimes turns into a real pain. Just forget
about it
and go after brand new one.

Severin.


At 10:13 AM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:


After months of looking for a EVC, I've finally found one, but
there's a
catch, and
it's a pretty big catch. The vehicle is a 99 with only 1000
miles on it.
It is
essentially new.
There is a service in the Internet where, for $15 or so you can get
the
vehicle's history, provided you can give them the VIN.



Ask the dealer for the VIN. If he hesitates, don't buy the car! EVs
have
enough
problems as it is, you don't want any more!
I think that your Department of Motor Vehicles can give you the
same
info for
less money. I would try to find out the name of the previous owner
and
contact
him. Remember, you are dealing with a car salesman. One commanding
officer in
the AF once said, if he had a brother who is a used car salesman,
and he
was up
for his polygraph and renewal of his security clearance, he would
tell
them that
his brother is in jail, for fear of loosing his security clearance.
You could try contacting VW, but they have never been helpful.
1-800-Drive-VW.


93 MV cooling fans have stopped

Eckhard Rolz
 

Can anyone give me Camelback's phone # ?? Do they have a web site? I
usually order from Bus Depot but they have not responded to to
inquiries.
Thanks
Eckhard


Circuit diagram for Cruise Module.

TYA
 

Anyone have a circuit diagram for a VW Cruise Control module. When you
take it out of the box it is simply old fashioned resistors, capacitors,
relay and a few ICs which are marked intel and Toshiba. VW wants $700
Canadian plus taxes for a new one.

These look simple enough to build in high school electronics in the 60s.

Reg


Re: 93 MV cooling fans have stopped

Jack Lowry
 

Hi try this, and let us know what you find. Feel free to write me directly
if you need more help.

I've just been diving into the fans on my '93.

First I kind wonder about one other comment I have seen about fans running
independently. On my EV there are 5 relays. Reviewing the copy of the wiring
diagram I have for mine and the actual connections I note that both fans are
activated at the same time and speed.

The first relay has two sets of contacts (one set for each fan) that when
activated (by either the AC or a temperature switch) supplies power through
the end tap of the resistors (interesting the maximum resistance in series
with the fans) providing the slow fan speed. This relay only has one coil
and input and seems to have only two states. On and off.

Medium speed is provided by a pair of relays that share the same input. When
these contacts close power is provided to the center tap of the resistors
inserting a minimum of resistance in series with the fans.

High speed is provide by a set of relays that also share a common input that
when activated provide battery power directly to each fan. Based on comments
from a tech at a local dealer a EV should almost never reach this state.
My Personnel experience with high speed is when the fans run at high speed
you know about it.

Also worthy of note is a set of 50 amp fuse mounted in the area near the
relays over the drivers side head light.

My current problem (I feel pretty good that I have the problem nailed down,
and am waiting for the parts to come in from Camelback) was a lack of
interior cooling when sitting still or moving slowly through a parking lot.

The under the hood look around led me to a cracked fuse I bought 4 replaced
2 and put the others in the glovebox. Things where better but not quite
right.

Monday night I dug into it again memorized the diagram and think the
following steps will work to troubleshoot this collection.

Get some 1-2 feet of 16 gage wire, electrical tape, two alligator clips a
fuse holder and a supply of 2-3 amp fuses to fit the holder. Put a alligator
clip on one wire of the fuse holder. Attach the other end of the fuse holder
to the 16 gage wire and attach the other alligator clip to the other end of
the 16 gage wire. This setup will be used to activate the relays for the
test. I suggest this type of test setup so as to protect you and your
vehicle from inadvertent connection of +12v directly to ground.

1. Do a visual on the fuses. Before disturbing a possibly bad fuse take a
moment to observe the condition if cracked in the middle be happy it's
probably just age and heat that has caused the fan to fail. If the fuse is
obvious melted get a little worried you may have something (the fan) drawing
to much power. Replace if required.
2. Provide +12v to point 3 on the relay with the 114 stamped on the top.
Verify operation of both fans at low speed.
3. Provide +12v to point 85 on either of the relays stamped 86 on the top.
Verify operation of booth fans at medium speed.
4.. Provide +12v to point 86 on either of the high speed relays marked with
111 on the top. Verify operation of both fans at high speed. Keep pets and
small children away from front of vehicle as the may be sucked up against
the grill. If one fan fails all tests you hopefully have a bad fuse. cause
I'll bet the fans are really expensive.

If a fan fails a low or medium speed test do a visual on the resistors. Swap
them around and see if the problem moves to the other fan. If so you have a
bad resistor, call Camelback and get the for $30 something instead of $50.

If after swapping the resistors around you still fail a low speed test on
the same fan you probably have a bad low speed relay. Because of the way
this is setup you can't do much more than replace the relay.

If after swapping the resistors around you still fail a medium speed test on
the same fan you probably have a bad medium speed relay. Verify that you
have the radio security code, disconnect the negative battery cable and swap
the medium speed relays(98 stamped on top). Reconnect the negative battery
terminal and test the medium speed fans. If the failing fan has moved you
have a bad relay. Buy a new one, disconnect the battery cable, flip a coin
and put the new in. Test. If both fans operate at medium speed have a cold
beverage of your choice.

If you fail a high speed fan test you can also exchange the relays marked
with 111 following the steps noted above.


Back to what I have found on my EV. After I replaced the cracked fuse. I
noted that the fans seemed to be short cycling. Often on for less than 10
seconds at a time and only one fan operating at the low speed. Both fans
operating at medium and high speeds. The one fan only at low speed turn out
to be a bad resistor. The "short cycling" at low speed turned out to be a
flaky set of contacts in the low speed relay.

Here's the kicker: the bad resistor was on the good set contacts in the low
speed relay. So when the low speed relay turned on the fans one did not run
due to a bad resistor, and the other would only run sometimes. I swapped the
resisters around and am reliably getting one fan at low speeds.

There is one more thing that my EV is doing that could be a useful flag to
help indicate problems with the setup.
The interior ventilation fans continues to run for about 5 seconds after I
turn the beast off. This could be caused by a combination of overpressure
switches etc. that are activated due to high temperature caused by a lack of
fans that is allowing the interior fans to continue to receive power after
the key is switched off.

This would be similar to the trick that older VW's would allow you to power
accessories without the key by turning on the headlights and pulling and
holding the dimmer switch.

-----Original Message-----
From: brassard@... [SMTP:brassard@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:37 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] 93 MV cooling fans have stopped

My cooling fans have stopped working on my MV I had the relays,and
resistors replaced in April. any suggestions?


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Re: Tires pressure

Charles Bragg
 

I was alway taught that the way to inflate your tires is to (1) calculate the load on the tire (and usually front and back are different); (2) divide #1 by the maximum load allowed by the tire mfr; (3) calculate the proper inflation by multiplying this fraction times the maximum pressure allowed by the mfr.

Example: load on the front of a vehicle is 3000 pounds. Each tire is therefore loaded to 1500 pounds. Maximum allowed load on the tires is 1700 pounds. Maximum allowable tire pressure is 55 psi:
Calculation: (1500 / 1700) * 55 = 48.5 psi.

-- Chuck

At 07:25 PM 09/08/1999 -0700, you wrote:
I have an '97 EVC and just bought new tires, Michelin Agilis 51.
Tires size 205/65/R15C.
I kwew that the Eurovan door sticker say 51 psi front and 45 psi rear.
The Winnebago door sticker say 50 psi front and 50 psi rear.
<snip>


Vanagon in Macleans

Terry Tiessen
 

Hey Canadian Volks, isn't it nice to see the Vanagon in the ad from Royal
Roads University in Macleans, Sept. 6, p.16?

Cheers,
Terry
'97EVC (former Vanagon owner)


Cooling Fan

Eckhard Rolz
 

The same thing happened to me. Check the fuse. When you buy a new one,
make sure you get one with the correct Amps. My dealer had a little
Ziplock bag with 50 or so fuses. If I had not checked I would have
gotten the wrong one. They all look alike, so read what's printed on
it. I think they cost $1.50 each.
Good luck
Eckhard


Re: VWofA repurchase EVC?

Gregory Kveton
 

There is a toll free number for VWoA customer service in Michigan that I have used to get information about the warranty service
history on VWs. You give them the VIN and they check the computer for repairs which were done under warranty. Tell them you want
to purchase the EV and they should give you the information. If the dealer got reimbursed by VWoA for any warranty work it should
show up in the computer. The phone number is 800-822-8987. Ask for customer service. Any dealer can also access these service
records directly. I would also find out what the lemon laws are in your state and check the VIN with the state to see if anything
comes up. There is one certainty in buying a car: Do not believe anything the salesman tells you.

From: Curt Elsbernd <curte@...>
Subject: [ev_update] VWofA repurchase EVC?

After months of looking for a EVC, I've finally found one, but there's a catch, and
it's a pretty big catch...It was repurchased by VW of America from the original owner...