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Isn't there one under your drivers seat? Mine had one

Geoff

Tomorrow I buy the extinguisher.

Steve Lashley
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'93 EV MV
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In a message dated 9/3/99 1:06:24 PM, erolz@... wrote:

<<I have tried to pin it down but I can't
find the source. Does anyone have any ideas? Not knowing where the
fumes come from makes me a bit nervous, since I only carry a small fire
extinguisher.
I hope someone knows the answer . . .
thanks
Eckhard>>

Check your fuel hoses where they connect together on the right side on the
engine. The hose clamps used by VW do not seem to clamp tight enough. I
replaced mine, which stopped the leak. It started again yesterday and I
tightened the clamps to stop it. I may need to replace these lines.

I seem to only have the problem when the engine is cold.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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In a message dated 9/5/99 6:17:45 AM, rgolen@... wrote:

<<Last night got to use my fire extinguisher....unfortunately it was on my 93
EV (which I've owned since new...). I popped out to buy my wife a little
surprise, and was heading home on the highway doing about 70 when the A/C
vents started to blow out thick black smoke. I put the EV in neutral, shut
the engine down and tried to slow down into the breakdown lane...NO BRAKES!
I used the emergency brake to stop. Grabbed the extinguisher popped the
hood a crack and began spraying and then fully opened the hood and put the
rest of the fire out.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.


Ric>>

Ric,
Sorry to hear about your fire.

I posted a few weeks back about the gas leak on my '93. I hope this wasn't
what may have caused your fire.

I replaced the hose clamps and the leak stopped. Yesterday, I noticed gas
smell again. I popped the hood and sure enough, there was a leak. I
couldn't tell which hose was leaking, so I tightened all the clamps and it
seems to have stopped.

It seems to me that the hoses only leak when the engine is cold. Is there
extra pressure in the hoses at that point? Something related to the cold
start valve?

Tomorrow I buy the extinguisher.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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Could some have soaked into the absorbent mat under the engine?

Geoff

Eckhard Rolz wrote:

Thanks Steve and Mo for your help
I replaced all the clamps and hoses, but the gasoline smell is still
there. I think the clamps are tight, but who knows. Where else could
gasoline smell come from?
Thanks
Eckhard

Thanks Ron
I just ordered back issues of the EV Update.
Eckhard

In a message dated 9/4/99 8:04:40 PM, Evryder@... writes:

<<Basically there are
plastic catches that hold the speaker grill in place. Careful lifting and
gently bending of the tabs will get it off. >>

Hmmm. In my Passat the speaker covers just pop off on their own. . .while
driving down the road.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.

Wow, Ric, what a way to start off a Sunday morning! I'm sorry to hear of your experience yesterday. Unfortunately, electricals and harnesses are things you don't want to have problems with (ask me how I know..). Do you suppose the cause was the fuel line, or an electrical nature? I know a few years back you fixed a (potential) leak at a fuel line junction, but a lot of us are sitting/driving around with seven year old EVs, possibly waiting for the same thing that happened to you. I remember my first VW, a Type3 SB that was eight years old when I bought it. It started springing leaks in fuel line after fuel line until I finally wised up and just had them all replaced. I would think that '90s German rubber technology is better than '70's German rubber technology, though..

Let us know how this all comes out in the end. Hopefully a "simple" replacement of the affected hoses and wiring harness(es), and you're on the road again.

Norman

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On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:37:49 -0700 tmitsui@... writes:

John,
Springfield VW is the dealer I trying to buy EVC from! Although a
sales
person I
talked was knowledgeable and friendly, he would not give me discount
even a bit.
Are they a good dealer?

Thanks,
Tad

Tad,
We were able to deal with Springfield VW on the price but that was well
over a year ago. I'd continue to press them and say you can get it
elsewhere. There are a couple of dealers up in Pennsylvania that you
might check into also. I don't remember their exact locations but
calling VW at their 800 # should get you a location. With the resurgence
in sales that VW dealers are experiencing, I don't know why they won't
offer you a discount off the sticker price.
Springfield has been OK with the routine maintenance and one starting
problem we had. I've got no complaints with them.

John P.
97 EVC

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Ric,

Same thing happened to our 93 EV GL on our way home from a camping trip.
Only our A/C system was ruined, though. The fire was traced to a faulty air
conditioner pump that seized up and caught on fire. Thankfully, I keep a
fire extinguisher strapped to the side of the driver's seat. We had both
kids and the dog in the van when it happened. Talk about a Chineese fire
drill! One thing we learned is that insurance will not pay for damages unless
they are caused by fire, so make sure you tell the insurance company that you
saw flames, or they will say it was a mechanical problem, and they won't pay.
We (and witnesses) saw flames coming out of our engine compartment, so
insurance picked up the $2,500+ in repair costs.

Good luck
Todd Vess
93 EV GL
90 Passat

Hi,

Who was going into Wiscassett, Maine yesterday along with three miles of
backed up traffic. We waved but from our little Civic so it would mean
little. Hate to think of driving this weekend in Maine because everyone's
going to the same places. We went to a little backwater of Maine near Reid
State Park called Five Islands. It was quiet, very quaint and even had a
lobster eatery on the wharf. The fog was thick tho.

Cheers to all for Labor Day,

Gary and Belle Clendening
'97 EVC; Flying Carpet
207-6220631

You must be subscribed twice. I am only get one set of messages. Try the
unsubscribe command and wait 2 hours and resubscribe.

I have done that with other lists.

Yep, Reg, I believe you are right. I just thought of that this morning.
I did subscribe directly at the eGroup site. I wasn't sure if we would automatically
be subscribed, as the message said.

Thanks

At 11:35 PM 9/4/1999 -0500, you wrote:

Repeat,

Does anyone know how to stop the new eGroup from sending us TWO of every
ev_update message?
Am I the only one who is getting a duplicate of each message?

Wade


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Dear Wade,

You must be subscribed twice. I am only get one set of messages. Try the
unsubscribe command and wait 2 hours and resubscribe.

I have done that with other lists.

Reg

Last night got to use my fire extinguisher....unfortunately it was on my 93
EV (which I've owned since new...). I popped out to buy my wife a little
surprise, and was heading home on the highway doing about 70 when the A/C
vents started to blow out thick black smoke. I put the EV in neutral, shut
the engine down and tried to slow down into the breakdown lane...NO BRAKES!
I used the emergency brake to stop. Grabbed the extinguisher popped the
hood a crack and began spraying and then fully opened the hood and put the
rest of the fire out.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.


Ric

Am I the only one who is getting a duplicate of each message?

Wade,

I get one of each.

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Let me know what you think they are worth.

Hmmm...maybe $10 each?

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Repeat,

Does anyone know how to stop the new eGroup from sending us TWO of every
ev_update message?
Am I the only one who is getting a duplicate of each message?

Wade

At 04:59 PM 9/4/1999 -0600, you wrote:

My '93 GL's speakers have rotted out...actually, it's probably only one
or two of them...I know the right front dash speaker is bad.

Has anybody upgraded their speakers and have their old ones laying
around? Wanna sell 'em?

On another note...perhaps someone has bought replacements that work
really well and aren't very expensive?

Dear Bill & Eurovan List,

I know a guy who bought a number of Eurovans from wreckers. I will check
with him and see what he has. Let me know what you think they are worth.
We can check them and make sure they work. We are in Alberta, Canada.
Chris on the list bought an air conditioner from the vehicle we are talking
about. I bought the cruise system.

Reg

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I can't figure out how to get the dash speakers out. Let me know how
you did it, I would appreciate it. I tried, but I could not even get
the plastic cover off.

Hmmmm...

I hadn't tried to remove them...I assumed the plastic cover popped
off...have to take a look.

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Business:
Home:

I can't figure out how to get the dash speakers out. Let me know how
you did it, I would appreciate it. I tried, but I could not even get
the plastic cover off.
Thanks
Eckhard