Nice, cannot play the .MOV file.
Ralph
Started my els project - 3D printed mounts for encoder and stepper - also printed gears one for the encoder and one for the stepper.?
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Started my els project - 3D printed mounts for encoder and stepper - also printed gears one for the encoder and one for the stepper.?
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That is a useful bit of kit,. Next time I need an encoder I will
consider it.
Richard
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I am using a encoder.
Sorry now that I actually look at the spec sheet I see the
resolution is?48 to
2048 PPR.
You just set buttons to get different
resolutions.
Ralph
What does your circuit look like?
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at
8:29 AM Richard < edelec@...>
wrote:
On 29/08/2020 16:11, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
Thanks, my encoder is variable. I can
do 30 - 3000 ppr.
Interesting, what do you need to do to change the output
count?
With the 74LS86 is the output variable or just
doubled?
It is doubled
Why was this needed for RELS?
So that typically an 1800 pulse encoder can be read as
3600
I wonder if the pulse would be
cleaner/sharper.
Possibly
Richard
When a
quadrature encoder is used for speed measurement
this doubles the
resolution.? A 200cpr encoder can be used at 400
counts per revolution.
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I am using a encoder.
Sorry now that I actually look at the spec sheet I see the resolution is?48 to 2048 PPR.
You just set buttons to get different resolutions.
Ralph
What does your circuit look like?
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM Richard < edelec@...> wrote:
On 29/08/2020 16:11, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
Thanks, my encoder is variable. I can do 30 - 3000
ppr.
Interesting, what do you need to do to change the output count?
With the 74LS86 is the output variable or just doubled?
It is doubled
Why was this needed for RELS?
So that typically an 1800 pulse encoder can be read as 3600
I wonder if the pulse would be cleaner/sharper.
Possibly
Richard
When
a quadrature encoder is used for speed measurement this
doubles the
resolution.? A 200cpr encoder can be used at 400 counts per
revolution.
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drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non
working 3D printer
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What does your circuit look like?
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM Richard < edelec@...> wrote:
On 29/08/2020 16:11, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
Thanks, my encoder is variable. I can do 30 - 3000
ppr.
Interesting, what do you need to do to change the output count?
With the 74LS86 is the output variable or just doubled?
It is doubled
Why was this needed for RELS?
So that typically an 1800 pulse encoder can be read as 3600
I wonder if the pulse would be cleaner/sharper.
Possibly
Richard
When
a quadrature encoder is used for speed measurement this
doubles the
resolution.? A 200cpr encoder can be used at 400 counts per
revolution.
--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta
drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non
working 3D printer
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On 29/08/2020 16:11, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
Thanks, my encoder is variable. I can do 30 - 3000
ppr.
Interesting, what do you need to do to change the output count?
With the 74LS86 is the output variable or just doubled?
It is doubled
Why was this needed for RELS?
So that typically an 1800 pulse encoder can be read as 3600
I wonder if the pulse would be cleaner/sharper.
Possibly
Richard
When
a quadrature encoder is used for speed measurement this
doubles the
resolution.? A 200cpr encoder can be used at 400 counts per
revolution.
--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta
drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non
working 3D printer
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Thanks, my encoder is variable. I can do 30 - 3000 ppr.
With the 74LS86 is the output variable or just doubled?
Why was this needed for RELS?
I wonder if the pulse would be cleaner/sharper.
Ralph
When a quadrature encoder is used for speed measurement this doubles the
resolution.? A 200cpr encoder can be used at 400 counts per revolution.
--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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When a quadrature encoder is used for speed measurement this doubles the resolution.? A 200cpr encoder can be used at 400 counts per revolution.
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For RELS what exactly did/does the 74LS86 Quad 2-Input Exclusive OR Gate do?
Ralph
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Re: Moving a discussion? Start a discussion?
#MISC
Thanks John, yes it has taken me a while, actually I probably started in John D's yahoo group. Then seeing your post in the Mini Lathe groups got me looking at different methods. It probably has taken three years so far. Thanks for all of your help and encouragement.
I just do not have time to get anything done in the shop.
I have the Z stepper figured out now I need to mount the motor. I have a decent idea of how to mount the X motor.
Possibly this winter I will actually get to it.
I really like Jon's use of the Nextion 3.2" LCD, it is so good to see things.
Implementing X should not be that difficult, as long as I get lots of help as I am not a programmer. As I add pieces?and parts there will be lots of pictures and eventually video of it in action. Ralph
Ralph.
Congratulations on starting a new forum and hope you will still continue posting here.
I have been wondering over the past 6 months if you will ever find the "exact" ELS system?
you are yearning to build and or adopt.
It seems that between the RELS and the John D approach you have never been impressed,?
and hope you will find Jon Bryan's ideas will give you that sweet spot to get you over the hurdle of
actually starting and putting something lucrative together.?
Please let us know of your progress on this forum when time permits.
The digitalhobbyist forum was evolved as having a "yellow pages" of different digital ideas for hobbyists?
and where members through there posts with links enabled a quick and easy search or glance of what's happening in this?rapidly changing approach to hobbies, and not specifically going into real technical
details about a single subject matter like JD's forum, which could coincidentally run parallel to your new forum.
These type forums are a little "heavy" for me ?I am not? lecky savvy,but? just a user of digital machines.
I do wish you the very best of luck, and hopefully we will see photos or videos of your lathe up and working using an ELS ? whatever construction you adopt within a few months, as we all know your quest to fit an ELS has not been easy decision for you.
I am sure Richard UK and John D will be the first to applaud your digital lathe upon completion as they have both spent?quite some time on this forum in answering questions from you.
Cheers.
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John
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Re: Moving a discussion? Start a discussion?
#MISC
Ralph.
Congratulations on starting a new forum and hope you will still continue posting here.
I have been wondering over the past 6 months if you will ever find the "exact" ELS system?
you are yearning to build and or adopt.
It seems that between the RELS and the John D approach you have never been impressed,?
and hope you will find Jon Bryan's ideas will give you that sweet spot to get you over the hurdle of
actually starting and putting something lucrative together.?
Please let us know of your progress on this forum when time permits.
The digitalhobbyist forum was evolved as having a "yellow pages" of different digital ideas for hobbyists?
and where members through there posts with links enabled a quick and easy search or glance of what's happening in this?rapidly changing approach to hobbies, and not specifically going into real technical
details about a single subject matter like JD's forum, which could coincidentally run parallel to your new forum.
These type forums are a little "heavy" for me ?I am not? lecky savvy,but? just a user of digital machines.
I do wish you the very best of luck, and hopefully we will see photos or videos of your lathe up and working using an ELS ? whatever construction you adopt within a few months, as we all know your quest to fit an ELS has not been easy decision for you.
I am sure Richard UK and John D will be the first to applaud your digital lathe upon completion as they have both spent?quite some time on this forum in answering questions from you.
Cheers.
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John
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#MISC
I've joined, Ralph & Jon. May never do it, but interested in both electronics and machining.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Tuesday, August 25, 2020, 10:49:49 AM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
? I have made a new Forum/Group?
/g/AtomicELS
This is to discuss Jon Bryan's Atomic Leadscrew.
One of?my first Questions will be how to add a X component but all relative?discussions are welcome.
I just formed the group so really have not spent any time formatting.
I did set up a Hashtag? ? ? ? ?#INTRO? ? ? please use this in the subject and tell us about yourself. There is also a #X Hashtag?and there will be more, hashtags make searching easy.
Your first two posts will be moderated.
I will "try" to send out invites but I really am busy with other projects. You can just join as normal.
Ralph
Ralph,
I don't see an issue with you having the discussion here. If it were me, I would start a new Group if I thought that there would be numerous discussions on different points regarding the same general subject. So it's up to you.
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Regards,
Charlie
New Jersey, USA
There IS no cloud!? It's just someone else's computer.
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#MISC
Just signed up to follow the developments and learn a bit ?. Thanks, Lewis
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On Aug 25, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Ralph Hulslander < rhulslander@...> wrote: ? I have made a new Forum/Group?
/g/AtomicELS
This is to discuss Jon Bryan's Atomic Leadscrew.
One of?my first Questions will be how to add a X component but all relative?discussions are welcome.
I just formed the group so really have not spent any time formatting.
I did set up a Hashtag? ? ? ? ?#INTRO? ? ? please use this in the subject and tell us about yourself. There is also a #X Hashtag?and there will be more, hashtags make searching easy.
Your first two posts will be moderated.
I will "try" to send out invites but I really am busy with other projects. You can just join as normal.
Ralph Ralph,
I don't see an issue with you having the discussion here. If it were me, I would start a new Group if I thought that there would be numerous discussions on different points regarding the same general subject. So it's up to you.
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Regards,
Charlie
New Jersey, USA
There IS no cloud!? It's just someone else's computer.
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#MISC
My two cents?? The original Yahoo E-Leadscrew group was formed to discuss Electronic Lead Screws that were not CNC because groups like CAD-CAM-EDM-DRO were not interested in the discussion and in fact actively dissed it. ? The E-Leadscrew group was never _only_ about the ELS I developed.? And I've made postings on that group to that effect. ? ? So I'd say the best place to discuss any sort of lead screw automaton is the E-Leadscrew group. And considering I paid money to move it to groups.io we might as well get our money's worth. ? John Dammeyer /g/E-Leadscrew/ ? ? ?
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Sent: August-25-20 3:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] Moving a discussion? Start a discussion?? Ralph,
I don't see an issue with you having the discussion here. If it were me, I would start a new Group if I thought that there would be numerous discussions on different points regarding the same general subject. So it's up to you.
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Regards,
Charlie
New Jersey, USA There IS no cloud!? It's just someone else's computer.
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#MISC
? I have made a new Forum/Group?
/g/AtomicELS
This is to discuss Jon Bryan's Atomic Leadscrew.
One of?my first Questions will be how to add a X component but all relative?discussions are welcome.
I just formed the group so really have not spent any time formatting.
I did set up a Hashtag? ? ? ? ?#INTRO? ? ? please use this in the subject and tell us about yourself. There is also a #X Hashtag?and there will be more, hashtags make searching easy.
Your first two posts will be moderated.
I will "try" to send out invites but I really am busy with other projects. You can just join as normal.
Ralph
Ralph,
I don't see an issue with you having the discussion here. If it were me, I would start a new Group if I thought that there would be numerous discussions on different points regarding the same general subject. So it's up to you.
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Regards,
Charlie
New Jersey, USA
There IS no cloud!? It's just someone else's computer.
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Re: Russian RELS wiring
#RELS
Thanks Gene, that is a great link. I am not a Russian speaker and Google translate only goes so far,?so I could certainly?install the?Russian ELS I cannot understand the?instructions on how to use?it. I am starting a new forum for Jon Bryans Atomic Leadscrew discussions. One of the first things I'll post will be about how to make a X component. Maybe with more time I could use/understand the Russian ELS, it is a shame that the code has never been declared as Shareware. Richard and Charlie here in this forum have done a tremendous job of translating Oleg's code (version 6) but the files have been pulled because of no Open Source?declaration. Ralph --
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Re: Russian RELS wiring
#RELS
What about this?
https://www.chipmaker.ru/topic/118083/?page=22&tab=comments#comment-3670461
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#MISC
Ralph, I don't see an issue with you having the discussion here. If it were me, I would start a new Group if I thought that there would be numerous discussions on different points regarding the same general subject. So it's up to you. -- Regards, Charlie New Jersey, USA
There IS no cloud!? It's just someone else's computer.
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I'm not the owner of this group, so I can't tell you it would be OK to post here about it, but it wouldn't bother me any. I haven't started a new group in a while, but I don't think the process has changed, so you could go that route, too. Whatever you do, I'd be interested in following it, too.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Monday, August 24, 2020, 06:48:59 PM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
I want to start a discussion on adding a X element to . Should I start the discussion here in digitalhobbyist or start a new forum? Currently the discussion is on the Logan Lathe forum since the discussion is no longer about the Logan Lathe but about Jon's leadscrew project it seems having a new locations is appropriate. There are links to Jon's project in my Alternatives post.? So what do you think move the discussion here or start a new forum? Ralph -- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Moving a discussion? Start a discussion?
#MISC
I want to start a discussion on adding a X element to . Should I start the discussion here in digitalhobbyist or start a new forum? Currently the discussion is on the Logan Lathe forum since the discussion is no longer about the Logan Lathe but about Jon's leadscrew project it seems having a new locations is appropriate. There are links to Jon's project in my Alternatives post.? So what do you think move the discussion here or start a new forum? Ralph -- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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BuffaloJohn
John Lindo
Bill in OKC too