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ELS project #RELS

Prasad
 

John?

Looking forward to posts on your ELS project..?

Thanks
Prasad


Congratulations!

 

Hi, John,
Congratulations on setting up a new group to share your ideas, modifications, and successes!? I am looking forward to learning a lot here.? Best of luck!
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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Welcome to the new digitalhobbyist forum

 

I really appreciate the interest shown in the last 6 hours of starting this new forum.
Currently standing at 14 members, and most names I recognise from other forums.
My intention is for us all to benefit from new affordable electronic assists in chipmaking, be it metal, wood or any composites, share ideas in our?
quests to produce projects and tooling in our hobby shops. This forum does not negate or ignore the need to apply manual machine practises
in tandem and welcome any new?innovation ideas, but there are plenty of other forums available for general hobbyist?s interested in machining.
I specifically have set no No ground rules yet except the normal zero tolerance on subject matters of Race, Religion, Politics, Profanity and
to treat others as you would expect to be treated.
Disagreements naturally will occur between forum members, tempers may fly, but lets get?going first and sort out things as we move along.
Neither am I an autocratic or dictatorial person, and purposefully I have not signed off as Owner or Moderator of this new exiting forum, you all know
who I am when joining. Moderation if necessary will be minimal, as we should all be capable of this task amongst ourselves.

The saying is true,? "you don?t know what you dont know " but lets get going and see how it all pans out.

Newbies to our specialist niche hobbies are very welcome to join and will give them the courtesy they deserve, we all started by learning from somebody.

Posts to be on subjects referencing our hobby machines,but if you happen to own a Bridgeport Mill or 9" Southbend lathe then
this is not a problem, we should not limit posts?. as enhancing our hobbyist machine tools including 3D printers?is what this digital forum is all about.

Lastly, as you may be aware from other forums I have a record of posts referencing good sound work safety procedures and I will not be politically
correct in my replies when reading or seeing unsafe practises.?

Again, very pleased already with the interest from a great bunch of guys signed up.

So lets see what happens, the future is all around us at affordable prices.

Thanks very much.

John? Lindo








I will not let you down.

John??


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

Prasad,

I am in the midst of implementing a similar ELS project to John's, with his help and suggestions.? I prefer to think of it as "super-ELS", as the original ELS concept controlled only the lead screw, as I understand it, so that the user could thread basically any pitch.? Super-ELS, as John and Richard (in the UK) have implemented it, (based on the software concept of a Russian gentleman whose name I don't know), also controls the cross-slide.? This allows complete automated threading, and also provides taper cutting, various turning options, etc.? I went with some rather over-sized motors, as you can see in the photos.? The encoder shown is driven off the spindle directly.

I am really looking forward to finishing this and putting it to work!




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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: ELS project #RELS

Bruce J
 

Me too.?


Thanks John

 

It might be interesting with looser shop related discussions.

I have learned so much from these forums.??
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

Charlie
Well done
A very nice forum post with clear photos.

Thanks

John

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 21:14, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Prasad,

I am in the midst of implementing a similar ELS project to John's, with his help and suggestions.? I prefer to think of it as "super-ELS", as the original ELS concept controlled only the lead screw, as I understand it, so that the user could thread basically any pitch.? Super-ELS, as John and Richard (in the UK) have implemented it, (based on the software concept of a Russian gentleman whose name I don't know), also controls the cross-slide.? This allows complete automated threading, and also provides taper cutting, various turning options, etc.? I went with some rather over-sized motors, as you can see in the photos.? The encoder shown is driven off the spindle directly.

I am really looking forward to finishing this and putting it to work!




--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: Thanks John

 

Ralph
Welcome aboard.
If I can help you I will, and we also already have some super top notch futuristic signed up forum members.
from all over the world. Amazing.
There wont be anything that cannot be sorted out. Futuristic hobbying that is? LOL.

John


On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 21:15, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
It might be interesting with looser shop related discussions.

I have learned so much from these forums.??
--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


Re: ELS project #RELS

Prasad
 

Hi Charlie

I know and I am planning to visit you one of these days. I am excited to get going but as you know, too many open projects on hand. Everything is important. I will phone you soon.?

Prasad

On Friday, August 9, 2019, 03:14:32 PM EDT, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:


Prasad,

I am in the midst of implementing a similar ELS project to John's, with his help and suggestions.? I prefer to think of it as "super-ELS", as the original ELS concept controlled only the lead screw, as I understand it, so that the user could thread basically any pitch.? Super-ELS, as John and Richard (in the UK) have implemented it, (based on the software concept of a Russian gentleman whose name I don't know), also controls the cross-slide.? This allows complete automated threading, and also provides taper cutting, various turning options, etc.? I went with some rather over-sized motors, as you can see in the photos.? The encoder shown is driven off the spindle directly.

I am really looking forward to finishing this and putting it to work!




--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

I want to do this, I wonder about the motors, yes Charlie your motors appear to be huge. How big of a motor is needed for Z and X?
Anyone have some extra motors you want to get rid of?

I believe the original ELS has the capability to drive X or it can be added.

Ralph

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:25 PM John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
Charlie
Well done
A very nice forum post with clear photos.

Thanks

John

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 21:14, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Prasad,

I am in the midst of implementing a similar ELS project to John's, with his help and suggestions.? I prefer to think of it as "super-ELS", as the original ELS concept controlled only the lead screw, as I understand it, so that the user could thread basically any pitch.? Super-ELS, as John and Richard (in the UK) have implemented it, (based on the software concept of a Russian gentleman whose name I don't know), also controls the cross-slide.? This allows complete automated threading, and also provides taper cutting, various turning options, etc.? I went with some rather over-sized motors, as you can see in the photos.? The encoder shown is driven off the spindle directly.

I am really looking forward to finishing this and putting it to work!




--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

Hi, Ralph,

I was not aware of that.? I thought the cross-slide was not considered.? My apologies if I am wrong....
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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

Prasad,

You are always welcome to visit!??
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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

Ralph,

My motors are NEMA 23, 113 mm long, with a 2-phase holding torque of 3.0 N-m.? It was certainly overkill for the cross-slide, and may be excessive for the lead screw, but I have this philosophy... I would rather have extra torque and not need it than not have enough torque and wish I had speced a bigger motor!? I bought three of these on sale, intending to use the third one for a power feed on my mill.? I have attached the spec sheet FYI.

John, I know your motors are NEMA 23 but not as long.? Do you know the torque spec for Ralph?? You have never had a torque issue that I know of, and you push your lathe to the edge of its performance envelope...
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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

Charlie I cannot believe those are NEMA 23 motors I thought they had to be NEMA 34.

I have a bunch of NEMA 23 motors maybe I could/should play around with them.

Of course that would be this winter, right now I have too many "priority" must do projects
none being in my shop.

Ralph

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 4:21 PM CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:
Ralph,

My motors are NEMA 23, 113 mm long, with a 2-phase holding torque of 3.0 N-m.? It was certainly overkill for the cross-slide, and may be excessive for the lead screw, but I have this philosophy... I would rather have extra torque and not need it than not have enough torque and wish I had speced a bigger motor!? I bought three of these on sale, intending to use the third one for a power feed on my mill.? I have attached the spec sheet FYI.

John, I know your motors are NEMA 23 but not as long.? Do you know the torque spec for Ralph?? You have never had a torque issue that I know of, and you push your lathe to the edge of its performance envelope...
--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

But, but, but Charlie, you're modifying the lathe! Are we allowed to do that?

I've always adhered to the maxim that if I own it I can modify it however I want. Hardware, software, whatever!

And if I'm not allowed to modify it, it's just a rental.

I don't rent much. :)

Go for it!

Bill in OKC


On Friday, August 9, 2019, 2:14:29 PM CDT, CLevinski <clevinski@...> wrote:


Prasad,

I am in the midst of implementing a similar ELS project to John's, with his help and suggestions.? I prefer to think of it as "super-ELS", as the original ELS concept controlled only the lead screw, as I understand it, so that the user could thread basically any pitch.? Super-ELS, as John and Richard (in the UK) have implemented it, (based on the software concept of a Russian gentleman whose name I don't know), also controls the cross-slide.? This allows complete automated threading, and also provides taper cutting, various turning options, etc.? I went with some rather over-sized motors, as you can see in the photos.? The encoder shown is driven off the spindle directly.

I am really looking forward to finishing this and putting it to work!




--
Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Joining the group

Lewis Cobb
 

Hi Guys -

Joining the new group and saying hello :)

Lewis

New Brunswick, Canada


Re: Welcome to the new digitalhobbyist forum

 

Hi John,
Long time 7x12MiniLathe and 3d Printing for Metalworkers and Model Engineers groups. Saw that you created this group and decided to join.
Best of luck,
Joe Melhorn
Sahuarita, AZ


Re: ELS project #RELS

 

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM, CLevinski wrote:
based on the software concept of a Russian gentleman whose name I don't know
Oleg, I think...

Is this it??


Re: ELS project #RELS

MC Cason
 

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Not that I don't like elephants, but maybe a different group photo would be in order???? With Charlie's permission, I would like to submit his third photo as an interim image.

---Mark



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Regards,

Charlie
New Jersey, USA


Re: Welcome to the new digitalhobbyist forum

Bruce J
 

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I think this is the inevitable outcome of the original "computer age” folks (grew up in the 70’s) hitting “able to afford the toys because I’m old and my house is paid off” age.?

I started with fortran and punch cards, back in the day….now I fling bits around for a living and…bits of a different kind for fun. Always happy to join the two.?

On Aug 9, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Joseph Melhorn <toyman@...> wrote:

Hi John,
Long time 7x12MiniLathe and 3d Printing for Metalworkers and Model Engineers groups. Saw that you created this group and decided to join.
Best of luck,
Joe Melhorn
Sahuarita, AZ

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Bruce Johnson

The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.