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Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
Thanks Richard! Got it bookmarked now. Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 12:04:57 PM CDT, Richard <edelec@...> wrote:
Try Richard On 19/08/2020 16:13, Ralph Hulslander
wrote:
What is the link for the CNC Zone?discussions?
Ralph
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:30
AM Tamra <tamrabrogdon@...> wrote:
I cannot join the CNC Zone for some - beyond my abilities - reason; on any computer at home or work.? I can read the messages but cannot post messages...? how much does the Russian Electronic Leadscrew Software cost? -- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
Richard
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat maybe Ralph but I made quite a number of changes for my own use. Probably best that you and others work with the current Russian version or some other ELS.Oh and Tamra, there is no cost involved but there is a lot of frustration. Richard On 19/08/2020 16:18, Ralph Hulslander
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Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
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Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
Second that, as the link posted earlier got me a 404 error.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 10:13:21 AM CDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
What is the link for the CNC Zone?discussions? Ralph On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:30 AM Tamra <tamrabrogdon@...> wrote: I cannot join the CNC Zone for some - beyond my abilities - reason; on any computer at home or work.? I can read the messages but cannot post messages...? how much does the Russian Electronic Leadscrew Software cost? --
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
Richard I believe the Russian code rather or not it is actually copyrighted or open sourced would, in the US, fall under "Fair-Use" . Use it but don't gain anything, you could not sell it. Of course I am not a lawyer. Ralph On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:13 AM Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
What is the link for the CNC Zone?discussions? Ralph On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:30 AM Tamra <tamrabrogdon@...> wrote: I cannot join the CNC Zone for some - beyond my abilities - reason; on any computer at home or work.? I can read the messages but cannot post messages...? how much does the Russian Electronic Leadscrew Software cost? --
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Re: The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
I cannot join the CNC Zone for some - beyond my abilities - reason; on any computer at home or work.? I can read the messages but cannot post messages...? how much does the Russian Electronic Leadscrew Software cost?
Thanks - Tamra |
The Russian Electronic Leadscrew
#RELS
Richard
As there is some question as to whether the "Russian" Electronic
Leadscrew Software is open source, I have removed all references to it in the files. There is a Forum on CNC-Zone discussing the current and previous versions. Obviously it can still be discussed here as can any existing ELS system. Richard |
Ok, now it is up to me. Thanks for the mounting ideas. Thanks Richard for the update on the Russian activities. The Chipmaker.ru is an interesting site. Google translate does a reasonable job Ralph On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 5:38 AM Richard <edelec@...> wrote:
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Richard
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýRalph, I honestly do not know at the moment if the RELS is open source. There was certainly no copy-write information on the original code I worked with. I have requested an answer from someone who has been involved with the code for a good while.In the meantime you may wish to look at the information available on the CNC-Zone Forum The thread discusses the project and schematics and software are available to download. The project appears to be in version 7 and includes considerably more options than the modified code that I have worked with. As I am not involved in that group, if you have any questions they need to be directed there. The actual site involved is but you will need to brush up on your Russian! Yes the video you show is the original Russian but at a later issue. With regard to mounting the X drive consider yourself lucky to have those two tapped holes. I would scrape the paint away to show the hopefully machined face then repeat what John has discussed. I attach pics of my X mount in the course of build. Not as elegant? as Johns but it works. I really should pull it apart and machine away some excess and add some chamfers! I connected my X screw in a different way to John. I was concerned that the old X screw would swing around excessively so retained it via a bearing see DSC0158. The stub shaft from that locates with the "Oldham" coupling which connects to the stepper. I obviously drilled and tapped my fixing holes in the carriage after everything was lined up as you can see in the photos. After drilling and tapping and refitting it was doweled as in DSC0156. You need to design and make your mounting then drill some oversize holes for the two bolts bolt it up slack, tap for alignment, tighten bolts and pop in a couple of dowels. DSC0114 hopefully shows how I mounted my Z stepper off the "Banjo". The disk on the spindle is the "one pulse per rev" signal for when I had John Dammeyer's ELS. This has been changed to an 1800 pulse encoder to suit the RELS. Hopefully this helps Richard On 16/08/2020 17:26, Ralph Hulslander
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Is the RELS open source? |
Ralph?
I have no carriage gib screws, but tensioner plates, but if I did and the stepper mounting plate touched them,? then simply mill horseshoe cut outs in the plate to clear.? from your photos I cannot see why you would want a mounting plate that deep anyway to even come close to the set screws and nuts. The plate needs only to come down as far as the casting protrudes out. Suggest you measure and draw out the end of the C Slide , overlay a drawing of the stepper motor mounting holes and footprint. and see where you are from there. What you will need to do is to ensure that the area where the plate will contact the casting needs to be flat and square to the CS feed screw. This will avoid any excess load on the? "oldham" flexible coupling when in rotation. A good sharp file and toolmakers square should do this operation, and time and skill. Ball turning is an excellent use of an Arduino based ELS, Oleg ? is a good innovator, full marks to him. Thanks -- John |
Thanks again John, I need to see the bottom view to see how your mount might clear the carriage gib screws. I "think" they would be cleared but I do not know about easy access. Of course I have never touched the carriage gib screws but maybe one of these days. What did you think about the ball turning? Ralph On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:30 AM John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote: Ralph. --
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Ralph.
more photos of the? Cross slide screw to the stepper motor and they should be more self explanatory. You will need to measure all your reference points for attachment. Basically you are looking to connect a motor spindle to the end of a feed screw. there's nothing really complicated. You can still use the lathe whilst machining and building up the parts. -- John |
Thanks John, do you have?an image from the side and below? Ralph On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:35 AM John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote: Ralph --
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Ralph
See photo attached.Similar to what you need to know. Assuming you are using a Nema 23 ? 3/8" thick ally plate, drill and tap 4 holes the same footprint as the stepper motor 4 x fixing holes. Bore the plate through the same diameter as the motor nose register diameter. Drill through 2 x holes clearance same dia as the holes used for the taper turning attachment. Put the cross slide feed screw in the chuck and drill ream a hole for a double connector Male into the C/S and? male into a "oldham" flexible coupling. that will connect to the stepper motor spindle. Make 2 x standoffs to the correct length that will connect the stepper and plate and the oldham coupling, to the existing taper turning threaded holes. Hope this helps. -- John |
Is the RELS open source?
Is this ?? Anyone have some ideas on how to mount X drive on my Craftsman 12x36 lathe? I need a better picture showing the gib screws which are below the taper attachment mounting holes. Ralph -- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
Re: Latching Joystick?
#RELS
Richard
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks to Charlies excellent work the latest Schematic is now in the Files\Electronic Leadscrew\ area.Richard On 04/08/2020 21:47, Ralph Hulslander wrote: I got my , does anyone have a wiring diagram? |
Re: Latching Joystick?
#RELS
I got my , does anyone have a wiring diagram?
Ralph -- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer |
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