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Thanks I got plenty of food for my thoughts! I wanted the ratflector for Emcomm.?
I did not wanted to bother any particular ratflector owner.?
I guess that as I try to be more proficient on Drats I ll be hanging around those that are already up.
Thanks to y'll for you advise. Even though I could not make it I learned a lot in the process.
V/R?
NP3JD
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On 9/18/2022 9:32 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote:
>
> Indeed the router’s wan IP I s not the same PC IP that can be found
> on whatismyip.com.?? I still scratching the babck omy head. I tried
> yesterday to set the ratflector on Hughes HT2010 model router but did
> not work neither. SO I ‘m doing the same mistake on both of them?
There is probably nothing that you can configure to on your router to
make it work.? Your ISP is what is blocking you from running a public
ratflector.? That is what I have been trying to get you to understand.
The instructions in the manual and the video do not deal with your ISP's
configuration.
The instructions only work with this configuration:
PC <> Your Nat router <> ISP <> public Internet
Your configuration is:
PC <> Nat router <> ISP Nat Router <> Public Internet.
???????????????????? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
?????????????????????????? |
The "ISP Nat Router" is what is stopping you.
The port forwarding needs to be set on both NAT routers, or it will not
work.? And you need to check with your ISP to find out if there is any
way to to set the ISP Nat router to forward port 9000.
Looking back at your previous posts, your whatsmyip address is changing
quite a bit.? That indicates their may be multiple ISP NAT routers that
would need to have the port forwarding set up.
So it does not matter what router that you use.? The directions just do
not apply because of how your ISP has set up their network.
What do you want to run a ratflector for?
There are quite a few existing public ratflectors that do not appear to
be heavily used.? Is there any reason that you can not use one of them?
> Mmmmm? I think so, or both companies? do not support port
forwarding??? To much of a coincidence.
They support port forwarding, but it only works if the ISP is not also
using NAT.? As soon as you wrote that the WAN IP address did not match
the whatsmyip reported IP address, as I have replied to you several
times now, those instructions you have been trying to follow are never
going to work.? And it really does not matter how many different router
models that you try.
> In my opinion I ‘m not doing it right And my mistakes is on what
> ports and where should I have to place on the router. I did exactly
> as this guy did it but the result is on the router.
Again, those instructions do not apply to how your ISP has set up your
connection to the internet.? It does not matter what Nat Router that you
use, or how you configure it.? Your ISP is blocking you from having a
ratflector that is visible on the public internet.
> About VPN well I ‘ll have to learn more about this kind of science jajajajja
> ON the alternative I guess I ll have to learn How to do the Docker
> container COA or the VM.
I do not think that a VPN solution will work for you.? You are using
"Cell Phone" internet.? A VPN in simple terms is a NAT router with
encryption.? It does not give you a public IP address for incoming
connections.
VPNs will allow our outgoing traffic to appear at a different public IP,
but you will still need a server at the public IP end to run the ratflector.
A container is like a light weight VM. and should have a lower monthly
fee than a full VM.?? The hosting companies will generally show you how
to set them up.
73,
-John, wb8tyw
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On 9/18/2022 9:32 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote: Indeed the router’s wan IP I s not the same PC IP that can be found
on whatismyip.com. I still scratching the babck omy head. I tried
yesterday to set the ratflector on Hughes HT2010 model router but did
not work neither. SO I ‘m doing the same mistake on both of them? There is probably nothing that you can configure to on your router to make it work. Your ISP is what is blocking you from running a public ratflector. That is what I have been trying to get you to understand. The instructions in the manual and the video do not deal with your ISP's configuration. The instructions only work with this configuration: PC <> Your Nat router <> ISP <> public Internet Your configuration is: PC <> Nat router <> ISP Nat Router <> Public Internet. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | The "ISP Nat Router" is what is stopping you. The port forwarding needs to be set on both NAT routers, or it will not work. And you need to check with your ISP to find out if there is any way to to set the ISP Nat router to forward port 9000. Looking back at your previous posts, your whatsmyip address is changing quite a bit. That indicates their may be multiple ISP NAT routers that would need to have the port forwarding set up. So it does not matter what router that you use. The directions just do not apply because of how your ISP has set up their network. What do you want to run a ratflector for? There are quite a few existing public ratflectors that do not appear to be heavily used. Is there any reason that you can not use one of them? Mmmmm I think so, or both companies do not support port forwarding??? To much of a coincidence. They support port forwarding, but it only works if the ISP is not also using NAT. As soon as you wrote that the WAN IP address did not match the whatsmyip reported IP address, as I have replied to you several times now, those instructions you have been trying to follow are never going to work. And it really does not matter how many different router models that you try. In my opinion I ‘m not doing it right And my mistakes is on what
ports and where should I have to place on the router. I did exactly
as this guy did it but the result is on the router. Again, those instructions do not apply to how your ISP has set up your connection to the internet. It does not matter what Nat Router that you use, or how you configure it. Your ISP is blocking you from having a ratflector that is visible on the public internet. About VPN well I ‘ll have to learn more about this kind of science jajajajja
ON the alternative I guess I ll have to learn How to do the Docker
container COA or the VM. I do not think that a VPN solution will work for you. You are using "Cell Phone" internet. A VPN in simple terms is a NAT router with encryption. It does not give you a public IP address for incoming connections. VPNs will allow our outgoing traffic to appear at a different public IP, but you will still need a server at the public IP end to run the ratflector. A container is like a light weight VM. and should have a lower monthly fee than a full VM. The hosting companies will generally show you how to set them up. 73, -John, wb8tyw
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Hopefully y'll can see this doc please comment on the ports setting WAN and LAN?
TNX
NP3JD
On 9/18/2022 6:35 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote:
> Change of router then is the COA. I ll be using a Hughes HT2010 Lets
> see If that Router can do the Trick WG9115AAC22-HS model .
I do not expect that to work.? The settings have to changed at the NAT
router that is in the telephone company's data center.
?> Router’ s WAN IP address I no the same as PC IP address.
I am assuming that means the Router's WAN IP address is not the same as
the IP shown by the whatismyip.com.
Posted earlier:
On 9/16/2022 10:03 AM, David Ranch wrote:
?> This is not entirely true as a user has at least two more options:
?>
?>??? - The ISP's operated NAT is usually a form of Carrier Grade NAT
?> (CG-NAT) which should be able to support port forwarding via Port
?> Control Protocol (PCP) -
. The
?> enduser will need to contact their ISP to see if they support PCP for
?> their endusers
?>
?>??? - The end user can setup a VPN with a provider that supports port
?> forwarding or supports static IPs for their tunnels.? I've heard good
> success with vendors like vultr, etc.? The VPNs aren't too expensive
> to operate.
Other options are to rent a docker container or a VM for a hosting
company and just put the ratflector there.
73,
-John
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HI John
?
Indeed the router’s wan IP I s not the same PC IP that can be found on whatismyip.com.?? I still scratching the babck omy head. I tried yesterday to set the ratflector on Hughes HT2010 model router but did not work neither. SO I ‘m doing
the same mistake on both of them? Mmmmm ?I think so, or both companies? do not support port forwarding??? To much of a coincidence. In my opinion I ‘m not doing it right And my mistakes is on what ports and where should I have to place on the router. I did
exactly as this guy did it but the result is different If you can take a look from minutes 4:30 on where he is setting the port forward, on WAN PORT and LAN PORT in both I’m placing 9000 .
?
About VPN well I ‘ll have to learn more about this kind of science jajajajja
ON the alternative I guess I ll have to learn How to do the Docker container COA or the VM
?
V/R
NP3JD
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 7:07:29 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [d-rats] ratflector
On 9/18/2022 6:35 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote:
> Change of router then is the COA. I ll be using a Hughes HT2010 Lets
> see If that Router can do the Trick WG9115AAC22-HS model .
I do not expect that to work.? The settings have to changed at the NAT
router that is in the telephone company's data center.
?> Router’ s WAN IP address I no the same as PC IP address.
I am assuming that means the Router's WAN IP address is not the same as
the IP shown by the whatismyip.com.
Posted earlier:
On 9/16/2022 10:03 AM, David Ranch wrote:
?> This is not entirely true as a user has at least two more options:
?>
?>??? - The ISP's operated NAT is usually a form of Carrier Grade NAT
?> (CG-NAT) which should be able to support port forwarding via Port
?> Control Protocol (PCP) -
. The
?> enduser will need to contact their ISP to see if they support PCP for
?> their endusers
?>
?>??? - The end user can setup a VPN with a provider that supports port
?> forwarding or supports static IPs for their tunnels.? I've heard good
> success with vendors like vultr, etc.? The VPNs aren't too expensive
> to operate.
Other options are to rent a docker container or a VM for a hosting
company and just put the ratflector there.
73,
-John
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On 9/18/2022 6:35 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote: Change of router then is the COA. I ll be using a Hughes HT2010 Lets
see If that Router can do the Trick WG9115AAC22-HS model . I do not expect that to work. The settings have to changed at the NAT router that is in the telephone company's data center. Router’ s WAN IP address I no the same as PC IP address. I am assuming that means the Router's WAN IP address is not the same as the IP shown by the whatismyip.com. Posted earlier: On 9/16/2022 10:03 AM, David Ranch wrote: This is not entirely true as a user has at least two more options:
- The ISP's operated NAT is usually a form of Carrier Grade NAT
(CG-NAT) which should be able to support port forwarding via Port
Control Protocol (PCP) - . The
enduser will need to contact their ISP to see if they support PCP for
their endusers
- The end user can setup a VPN with a provider that supports port
forwarding or supports static IPs for their tunnels. I've heard good
success with vendors like vultr, etc. The VPNs aren't too expensive
to operate. Other options are to rent a docker container or a VM for a hosting company and just put the ratflector there. 73, -John
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Change of router then is the COA. I ll be using a Hughes HT2010 Lets see If that Router can do the Trick
?
?
V/R
NP3JD
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From: José David Colón Custodio
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] ratflector
?
Router’ s WAN IP address I no the same as PC IP address.
?
I give up jajajajja
?
NP3JD
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On 9/17/2022 5:44 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote:
> HI Michael, when you sat that I m using the? the LAN or wan? address where exactly is that piece of info need to be placed? On the router , on the ratflector?
>
> Just in case this are the step that I follow:
>
>??? 1.? My pc has an Static ip address 192.168.8.50.
>??? 2.? That Ip Address is on the router under virtual service as :
>?????? *?? wan port 9000-9500;
>?????? *?? ip 192.168.8.50 (pc static ip);
>?????? *??? lan port : 9000-9500,
>?????? *?? tcp/upd; status on.
>??? 3.? On the same router under DDNS I have the NOIP configuration :
>?????? *?? provider NO-IP.com;
>?????? *?? status on;
>?????? *?? domain name: np3jd.ddns.net;
>?????? *?? connection status: Connected.
>?????? *?? With username and password ok
Very important bit of information is still missing.
What IP address does your router say is was assigned?
If that address not 72.50.16.221, that means that you have two levels of
NAT translation going on, and that is the reason it is not working for you.
I mentioned that on a previous post.
The only manual I can find online is the Quick Start manual.
>??? 4.? On the pc I run UCD NOIP software so it can send the right IP every 5 minutes to np3jd.ddns.net on NOIP. Right now is 72.50.16.221 and UCD? will check every 5 minutes
You only need to NOIP set up on your NAT router.? Nothing is needed on
the PC, except the ratflector.
>??? 5.? I turn on the Drats repeater program. NO info added, nothing here no ip no nothing, I? just click on? “trust localhost”
You have found a minor bug in d-rats_repeater.py.? The "trust localhost"
is only needed if you have "Require Authentication" also checked.
So the trust localhost button should not be enabled unless you have
"Require Authentication" also enabled.
>??? 6.? On the same? laptop also I run DRATS with only 1 radio connected to net:localhost:9000. This is to see the traffic on the Drats repeater programs.
>??? 7.? I see on the drats? client on this pc that it is connected to drats repeater program
>
> But nothing I can not connect to it from another computer. AS a matter of fact UCD has under Tools menu a nice ingredient. It is a “Open Port Check Tool” if you click on it, it will take you to a web site
whre you can add the port and it will verify if it is working or not. And guess what jajaj mine aint working jajajajaj
>
> So where exactly on those steps do I have to put the WAN IP Address?????? Router set up? Drats repeater paths? Jajaaj this is driving my nuts jajajajajjaj
Earlier you posted that you can not reach the ratflector on a different
system on your network.
You need to check your PC firewall program to make sure that port 9000
is not blocking it.
You would need to use the current LAN IP 192.168.8.50 of the system
running the ratflector to work from another system on your own network.
That issue has nothing to do with your router configuration.? There is
no point in trying to get NO-IP to work until the above works.
Once you get it working with your LAN IP address of the ratflector, then
you can try testing with your public IP address.
Next you need to find out is what your NAT Router thinks the external IP
address is.? I asked you to do that check before.
If it is not 72.50.16.221, then you will probably have to see if you can
find a support person for your wireless provider that knows how to make
your port 9000 visible.
Also check terms and conditions of your ISP, in the U.S. many of the
residential ISPs explicitly prohibit running a server visible to the
public internet.
73,
-John
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Router’ s WAN IP address I no the same as PC IP address.
?
I give up jajajajja
?
NP3JD
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From: John E. Malmberg
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] ratflector
?
On 9/17/2022 5:44 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote:
> HI Michael, when you sat that I m using the? the LAN or wan? address where exactly is that piece of info need to be placed? On the router , on the ratflector?
>
> Just in case this are the step that I follow:
>
>??? 1.? My pc has an Static ip address 192.168.8.50.
>??? 2.? That Ip Address is on the router under virtual service as :
>?????? *?? wan port 9000-9500;
>?????? *?? ip 192.168.8.50 (pc static ip);
>?????? *??? lan port : 9000-9500,
>?????? *?? tcp/upd; status on.
>??? 3.? On the same router under DDNS I have the NOIP configuration :
>?????? *?? provider NO-IP.com;
>?????? *?? status on;
>?????? *?? domain name: np3jd.ddns.net;
>?????? *?? connection status: Connected.
>?????? *?? With username and password ok
Very important bit of information is still missing.
What IP address does your router say is was assigned?
If that address not 72.50.16.221, that means that you have two levels of
NAT translation going on, and that is the reason it is not working for you.
I mentioned that on a previous post.
The only manual I can find online is the Quick Start manual.
>??? 4.? On the pc I run UCD NOIP software so it can send the right IP every 5 minutes to np3jd.ddns.net on NOIP. Right now is 72.50.16.221 and UCD? will check every 5 minutes
You only need to NOIP set up on your NAT router.? Nothing is needed on
the PC, except the ratflector.
>??? 5.? I turn on the Drats repeater program. NO info added, nothing here no ip no nothing, I? just click on? “trust localhost”
You have found a minor bug in d-rats_repeater.py.? The "trust localhost"
is only needed if you have "Require Authentication" also checked.
So the trust localhost button should not be enabled unless you have
"Require Authentication" also enabled.
>??? 6.? On the same? laptop also I run DRATS with only 1 radio connected to net:localhost:9000. This is to see the traffic on the Drats repeater programs.
>??? 7.? I see on the drats? client on this pc that it is connected to drats repeater program
>
> But nothing I can not connect to it from another computer. AS a matter of fact UCD has under Tools menu a nice ingredient. It is a “Open Port Check Tool” if you click on it, it will take you to a web site
whre you can add the port and it will verify if it is working or not. And guess what jajaj mine aint working jajajajaj
>
> So where exactly on those steps do I have to put the WAN IP Address?????? Router set up? Drats repeater paths? Jajaaj this is driving my nuts jajajajajjaj
Earlier you posted that you can not reach the ratflector on a different
system on your network.
You need to check your PC firewall program to make sure that port 9000
is not blocking it.
You would need to use the current LAN IP 192.168.8.50 of the system
running the ratflector to work from another system on your own network.
That issue has nothing to do with your router configuration.? There is
no point in trying to get NO-IP to work until the above works.
Once you get it working with your LAN IP address of the ratflector, then
you can try testing with your public IP address.
Next you need to find out is what your NAT Router thinks the external IP
address is.? I asked you to do that check before.
If it is not 72.50.16.221, then you will probably have to see if you can
find a support person for your wireless provider that knows how to make
your port 9000 visible.
Also check terms and conditions of your ISP, in the U.S. many of the
residential ISPs explicitly prohibit running a server visible to the
public internet.
73,
-John
?
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On 9/16/2022 10:03 AM, David Ranch wrote: Hello John,
All IPV4 addresses are now assigned. Any thoughts on how much work it would be to make D-Rats be IPv6 compatible?? IPv6 is clearly the future of the Internet, most ISPs support it now, and the ridiculous number of IPs you get from your ISP are all publicly reachable. I am not setup for IPV6 to smoke test things at this time. The raflector may just work if you try to connect to it by its IPV6 address. 73, -John wb8tyw
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On 9/17/2022 5:44 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote: HI Michael, when you sat that I m using the the LAN or wan address where exactly is that piece of info need to be placed? On the router , on the ratflector?
Just in case this are the step that I follow:
1. My pc has an Static ip address 192.168.8.50.
2. That Ip Address is on the router under virtual service as :
* wan port 9000-9500;
* ip 192.168.8.50 (pc static ip);
* lan port : 9000-9500,
* tcp/upd; status on.
3. On the same router under DDNS I have the NOIP configuration :
* provider NO-IP.com;
* status on;
* domain name: np3jd.ddns.net;
* connection status: Connected.
* With username and password ok Very important bit of information is still missing. What IP address does your router say is was assigned? If that address not 72.50.16.221, that means that you have two levels of NAT translation going on, and that is the reason it is not working for you. I mentioned that on a previous post. The only manual I can find online is the Quick Start manual. 4. On the pc I run UCD NOIP software so it can send the right IP every 5 minutes to np3jd.ddns.net on NOIP. Right now is 72.50.16.221 and UCD will check every 5 minutes You only need to NOIP set up on your NAT router. Nothing is needed on the PC, except the ratflector. 5. I turn on the Drats repeater program. NO info added, nothing here no ip no nothing, I just click on “trust localhost” You have found a minor bug in d-rats_repeater.py. The "trust localhost" is only needed if you have "Require Authentication" also checked. So the trust localhost button should not be enabled unless you have "Require Authentication" also enabled. 6. On the same laptop also I run DRATS with only 1 radio connected to net:localhost:9000. This is to see the traffic on the Drats repeater programs.
7. I see on the drats client on this pc that it is connected to drats repeater program
But nothing I can not connect to it from another computer. AS a matter of fact UCD has under Tools menu a nice ingredient. It is a “Open Port Check Tool” if you click on it, it will take you to a web site whre you can add the port and it will verify if it is working or not. And guess what jajaj mine aint working jajajajaj
So where exactly on those steps do I have to put the WAN IP Address?????? Router set up? Drats repeater paths? Jajaaj this is driving my nuts jajajajajjaj Earlier you posted that you can not reach the ratflector on a different system on your network. You need to check your PC firewall program to make sure that port 9000 is not blocking it. You would need to use the current LAN IP 192.168.8.50 of the system running the ratflector to work from another system on your own network. That issue has nothing to do with your router configuration. There is no point in trying to get NO-IP to work until the above works. Once you get it working with your LAN IP address of the ratflector, then you can try testing with your public IP address. Next you need to find out is what your NAT Router thinks the external IP address is. I asked you to do that check before. If it is not 72.50.16.221, then you will probably have to see if you can find a support person for your wireless provider that knows how to make your port 9000 visible. Also check terms and conditions of your ISP, in the U.S. many of the residential ISPs explicitly prohibit running a server visible to the public internet. 73, -John
|
HI Michael, when you sat that I m using the ?the LAN or wan ?address where exactly is that piece of info need to be placed? On the router , on the ratflector?
?
Just in case this are the step that I follow:
- My pc has an Static ip address 192.168.8.50.
- That Ip Address is on the router under virtual service as :
- wan port 9000-9500;
- ip 192.168.8.50 (pc static ip);
- ?lan port : 9000-9500,
- tcp/upd; status on.
- On the same router under DDNS I have the NOIP configuration :
- provider NO-IP.com;
- status on;
- domain name: np3jd.ddns.net;
- connection status: Connected.
- With username and password ok
- On the pc I run UCD NOIP software so it can send the right IP every 5 minutes to np3jd.ddns.net on NOIP. Right now is 72.50.16.221 and UCD ?will check every 5 minutes
- I turn on the Drats repeater program. NO info added, nothing here no ip no nothing, I ?just click on ?“trust localhost”???
- On the same ?laptop also I run DRATS with only 1 radio connected to net:localhost:9000. This is to see the traffic on the Drats repeater programs.
- I see on the drats ?client on this pc that it is connected to drats repeater program
?
But nothing I can not connect to it from another computer. AS a matter of fact UCD has under Tools menu a nice ingredient. It is a “Open Port Check Tool” if you click on it, it will take you to a web site
whre you can add the port and it will verify if it is working or not. And guess what jajaj mine aint working jajajajaj
?
So where exactly on those steps do I have to put the WAN IP Address?????? Router set up? Drats repeater paths? Jajaaj this is driving my nuts jajajajajjaj
?
V/R
Jose
NP3JD
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PS We are specting Fiona Storm in Puerto Rico, hopefully no Donkey jajajajja
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73
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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 1:56 AM
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I think you are using your LAN IP address, not your WAN IP address. A LAN IP can be fixed (static) which only means when you reboot your router that device gets the same internal IP address. That has nothing to do with your WAN IP address,
which is what you need. That is the real IP address your router is using to reach the internet. As I'm sure you know, most ISPs give you a dynamic address...they can change it from time to time and often do. A static IP address often costs more. You can also
get one free from a number of services that you can route through. A static IP address is beneficial to an internet asset (like a ratflector) so other people can find it in the same place all the time. Otherwise, it can work, but you may have to give everyone
your current IP address frequently.?
This is my IP address (at the moment)?131.106.226.224?
Yours will be totally different and unique. Anything with 192.168.xxxxxx is a local address only on your own LAN.?
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I think you are using your LAN IP address, not your WAN IP address. A LAN IP can be fixed (static) which only means when you reboot your router that device gets the same internal IP address. That has nothing to do with your WAN IP address, which is what you need. That is the real IP address your router is using to reach the internet. As I'm sure you know, most ISPs give you a dynamic address...they can change it from time to time and often do. A static IP address often costs more. You can also get one free from a number of services that you can route through. A static IP address is beneficial to an internet asset (like a ratflector) so other people can find it in the same place all the time. Otherwise, it can work, but you may have to give everyone your current IP address frequently.?
This is my IP address (at the moment)?131.106.226.224?
Yours will be totally different and unique. Anything with 192.168.xxxxxx is a local address only on your own LAN.?
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Well I did as A Type I got? np3jd.ddns.net BUT I still can not access it,?
NP3JD
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Hello John,
All IPV4 addresses are now assigned.
Any thoughts on how much work it would be to make D-Rats be IPv6
compatible?? IPv6 is clearly the future of the Internet, most ISPs
support it now, and the ridiculous number of IPs you get from your
ISP are all publicly reachable.
If it does not match the whatismyip.com report, then running a
public ratflector is a lost cause.
It is very likely that your configuration is:
public Internet IP -- ISP NAT private IP -- Your router -- Your
network with private IP addresses.
This is not entirely true as a user has at least two more options:
? - The ISP's operated NAT is usually a form of Carrier Grade NAT
(CG-NAT) which should be able to support port forwarding via Port
Control Protocol (PCP) - .?
The enduser will need to contact their ISP to see if they support
PCP for their endusers
? - The end user can setup a VPN with a provider that supports port
forwarding or supports static IPs for their tunnels.? I've heard
good success with vendors like vultr, etc.? The VPNs aren't too
expensive to operate.
Also it is recommended that UPNP (Universal Plug and Play) be
disabled.
I also generally recommend disabling UPnP as most of the router
implementations of that stack are known to have many various
security vulnerabilities (Google it.. it's really bad).?
Unfortunately, some of the CG-NAT solutions out there support the
configuration of PCP via the enduser's UPnP stack.? Again.. the user
will need to contact their ISP to understand how it's done for their
specific network.
--David
KI6ZHD
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On 9/15/2022 6:01 AM, José David Colón Custodio wrote: HI John thanks for the info. The best I can tell is that the software
for port forwarding runs on the pc. I guess that this software once
get inside the router, runs some sort of script that is supposed to
create the port forwarding inside the router. The router that I 'm
using is a Huawei b 315s. It recieves the signal form the internet
service company directly, so I do not have a third item between laptop
and router. It is some sort of all in one thing, with wifi, lan ports etc. All IPV4 addresses are now assigned. Because of that, many ISPs are now using private non-routable IP addresses to their customers. The is the case for Smart Phones that I have, the phone company only issues non-routable IP addresses to the phones. Any the manual for the Huawei b 315 shows that it does not have a WAN port, only a SIM card. Which means you are using Cell Phone Internet. You need to look up the IP address that the WAN port on Huawei b 315s is currently set to. If it does not match the whatismyip.com report, then running a public ratflector is a lost cause. It is very likely that your configuration is: public Internet IP -- ISP NAT private IP -- Your router -- Your network with private IP addresses. As far as software on a PC configuring a router for port forwarding, the only way that works if the router has a remote configuration option that matches the PC software. None of the commercial Nat routers that I have used have had such a documented API. So I would be very suspicious of any downloadable software that claims it can do that. Also it is recommended that UPNP (Universal Plug and Play) be disabled. My current ISP supplied the WIFI-NAT-Router, but I do have the admin password for it. I have username and password for it that can set a limited number of settings. 73, -John
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HI Glenn et Als. I jumped this morning to NOIP. It seems that the account was created succesfully. I m not using the rpi right now run some test, just in case I ve done something wrong on the static ip address on the pi.?
I'll leave this? link here just in case some else is following this topic, now or in the future. I ll also shar this link on how to set up an static ip on RPI which takes another way form that shared by Ron N7BU on the pdf that is on files on this group.io.?
I downloaded the PC version of NOIP DCU on the laptop and it was really easy. I also created a hostname np3jd.ddns.net
SO far?
1. laptop is running on static ip
2. router has been set up a per the video that I previously shared on this topic : Tha includes
(a).creating a port forward with the static ip addres of the pc? under virtual server and
(b)adding the NOIP account under DDNS on the router with NOIP NP3JD user name; ddns.net server
3. I installed the DCU software on the laptop and is on and running.
4. The noip account shows that the hostname is: (a) active, (b)with the pc ip address (c)Type A hostname
BUT jajaja the Router shows under DDNS that there is an acces error. I guess I ll have to wait 24 hours or something to see if the host name is active
V/R
Jose
NP3JD?
PS sorry for my english I think in spanish and then translate jajajajja 73
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Jose,
Set it as DNS Host A.
like mine here.? ?This is for York Region Amateur Radio Club. Obviously as previously stated the IP address is likely to change at times.
73,
Mike Crabtree - VA3MCT
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 07:00, José David Colón Custodio < jdavid91@...> wrote:
Good morning I have a question, on the NOIP create a hostname is asking me for the "Record Type" with 4 different option?
DNS Host A
AAAA (ipv6)
Dns Alias CNAME
Web Direct
Which one is the right choice for the ratflector?
Jose
NP3JD
I get it! I ll have to go the whole 9 yards with this ?.?
I ve been trying to get to my "ratflector" from another computer as quick as I turn on the ratflector.?
I create on the client a network connection under radios using the ip address from the server that I find on whatismyip. just to test the connection before it gets assigned another IP .but even though I can not connect to the repeater at least
to see if it is working.?
It is indeed frustrating. I even tried using two laptops to see if the rpi is the problem but same result.?
To sum up Conditions are: 2 laptops one as client and one as server.
The server has an static ip.?
This static ip is also on the router with port 9000.?
Then I turn on the ratflector. With drats as localhost:9000 to see activity. On the server laptop
?
Then I jump to the other laptop which is a client to see if I get connected to server. I go to radio and I create a network with the server ip address I.E
12.34.567.890. When I click on save my belief is that it should go to the server but it never connects. I get an error 10060 .?
So should I get connected to the server from the client without the NOIP as soon as I turn on the repeater????
To get a ratflector onto the Internet, people need to be able to find your IP address or a URL that points to that IP address.
?
I have been using NOIP.com for that purpose.? Since most home Internet routers get a Dynamic IP address from the provider, your home’s IP address is subject to change over time.? Once you have an account set up with NOIP.com, they
will give you a URL and you then download a program called DUC that periodically checks to see what your IP address is and reports it back to NOIP so they can adjust their record for your ratflector on the fly to make sure the URL always has the right path
to get traffic to your location.
?
I have been using them for several years.? I had made arrangements for to have it listed there.? From they set me up as
, but I can also be reached as which is the address issued by NOIP.? Having this set up was one of the most frustrating things for me, because if I simply told people what my IP address was, the next time something happened, like a power outage or glitch that caused
the equipment to reboot, the IP address would change to something else and no one could get in.? Also remember that your address issued by your Internet Provider and the address issued by your router to the devices in your home are two different things.? Isn’t
technology wonderful?!?
?
Getting the port range forwarding correct is another essential issue.? It requires you to set the ratflector up with a static IP address off your router, otherwise the same issue can occur.? The router is issuing local IP addresses
on a first come first serve basis.? A reboot could cause every device in your home to get reassigned a different IP from the router.? Since port forwarding has to be given a target device to send the traffic to when something comes in on port 9000, the address
of the ratflecter must be stable or else you will constantly have to go in and reassign the port forwarding information to point to the current one for the ratflector.
?
The ratflector also needs the added dependency software listed in the white paper added to the pi so the program will work.?? I’ve been running my ratflector on a Raspberry Pi 3-B for several years now, so I know it can be done.
?
Glen – KG5CEN
?
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Good morning I have a question, on the NOIP create a hostname is asking me for the "Record Type" with 4 different option?
DNS Host A
AAAA (ipv6)
Dns Alias CNAME
Web Direct
Which one is the right choice for the ratflector?
Jose
NP3JD
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Show quoted text
I get it! I ll have to go the whole 9 yards with this ?.?
I ve been trying to get to my "ratflector" from another computer as quick as I turn on the ratflector.?
I create on the client a network connection under radios using the ip address from the server that I find on whatismyip. just to test the connection before it gets assigned another IP .but even though I can not connect to the repeater at least
to see if it is working.?
It is indeed frustrating. I even tried using two laptops to see if the rpi is the problem but same result.?
To sum up Conditions are: 2 laptops one as client and one as server.
The server has an static ip.?
This static ip is also on the router with port 9000.?
Then I turn on the ratflector. With drats as localhost:9000 to see activity. On the server laptop
?
Then I jump to the other laptop which is a client to see if I get connected to server. I go to radio and I create a network with the server ip address I.E
12.34.567.890. When I click on save my belief is that it should go to the server but it never connects. I get an error 10060 .?
So should I get connected to the server from the client without the NOIP as soon as I turn on the repeater????
To get a ratflector onto the Internet, people need to be able to find your IP address or a URL that points to that IP address.
?
I have been using NOIP.com for that purpose.? Since most home Internet routers get a Dynamic IP address from the provider, your home’s IP address is subject to change over time.? Once you have an account set up with NOIP.com, they
will give you a URL and you then download a program called DUC that periodically checks to see what your IP address is and reports it back to NOIP so they can adjust their record for your ratflector on the fly to make sure the URL always has the right path
to get traffic to your location.
?
I have been using them for several years.? I had made arrangements for dstarinfo.com to have it listed there.? From dstarinfo.com they set me up as
, but I can also be reached as which is the address issued by NOIP.? Having this set up was one of the most frustrating things for me, because if I simply told people what my IP address was, the next time something happened, like a power outage or glitch that caused
the equipment to reboot, the IP address would change to something else and no one could get in.? Also remember that your address issued by your Internet Provider and the address issued by your router to the devices in your home are two different things.? Isn’t
technology wonderful?!?
?
Getting the port range forwarding correct is another essential issue.? It requires you to set the ratflector up with a static IP address off your router, otherwise the same issue can occur.? The router is issuing local IP addresses
on a first come first serve basis.? A reboot could cause every device in your home to get reassigned a different IP from the router.? Since port forwarding has to be given a target device to send the traffic to when something comes in on port 9000, the address
of the ratflecter must be stable or else you will constantly have to go in and reassign the port forwarding information to point to the current one for the ratflector.
?
The ratflector also needs the added dependency software listed in the white paper added to the pi so the program will work.?? I’ve been running my ratflector on a Raspberry Pi 3-B for several years now, so I know it can be done.
?
Glen – KG5CEN
?
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Show quoted text
I get it! I ll have to go the whole 9 yards with this ?.?
I ve been trying to get to my "ratflector" from another computer as quick as I turn on the ratflector.?
I create on the client a network connection under radios using the ip address from the server that I find on whatismyip. just to test the connection before it gets assigned another IP .but even though I can not connect to the repeater at least
to see if it is working.?
It is indeed frustrating. I even tried using two laptops to see if the rpi is the problem but same result.?
To sum up Conditions are: 2 laptops one as client and one as server.
The server has an static ip.?
This static ip is also on the router with port 9000.?
Then I turn on the ratflector. With drats as localhost:9000 to see activity. On the server laptop
?
Then I jump to the other laptop which is a client to see if I get connected to server. I go to radio and I create a network with the server ip address I.E
12.34.567.890. When I click on save my belief is that it should go to the server but it never connects. I get an error 10060 .?
So should I get connected to the server from the client without the NOIP as soon as I turn on the repeater????
To get a ratflector onto the Internet, people need to be able to find your IP address or a URL that points to that IP address.
?
I have been using NOIP.com for that purpose.? Since most home Internet routers get a Dynamic IP address from the provider, your home’s IP address is subject to change over time.? Once you have an account set up with NOIP.com, they will
give you a URL and you then download a program called DUC that periodically checks to see what your IP address is and reports it back to NOIP so they can adjust their record for your ratflector on the fly to make sure the URL always has the right path to get
traffic to your location.
?
I have been using them for several years.? I had made arrangements for dstarinfo.com to have it listed there.? From dstarinfo.com they set me up as
, but I can also be reached as which is the address issued by NOIP.? Having this set up was one of the most frustrating things for me, because if I simply told people what my IP address was, the next time something happened, like a power outage or glitch that caused
the equipment to reboot, the IP address would change to something else and no one could get in.? Also remember that your address issued by your Internet Provider and the address issued by your router to the devices in your home are two different things.? Isn’t
technology wonderful?!?
?
Getting the port range forwarding correct is another essential issue.? It requires you to set the ratflector up with a static IP address off your router, otherwise the same issue can occur.? The router is issuing local IP addresses
on a first come first serve basis.? A reboot could cause every device in your home to get reassigned a different IP from the router.? Since port forwarding has to be given a target device to send the traffic to when something comes in on port 9000, the address
of the ratflecter must be stable or else you will constantly have to go in and reassign the port forwarding information to point to the current one for the ratflector.
?
The ratflector also needs the added dependency software listed in the white paper added to the pi so the program will work.?? I’ve been running my ratflector on a Raspberry Pi 3-B for several years now, so I know it can be done.
?
Glen – KG5CEN
?
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I get it! I ll have to go the whole 9 yards with this ?.?
I ve been trying to get to my "ratflector" from another computer as quick as I turn on the ratflector.?
I create on the client a network connection under radios using the ip address from the server that I find on whatismyip. just to test the connection before it gets assigned another IP .but even though I can not connect to the repeater at least
to see if it is working.?
It is indeed frustrating. I even tried using two laptops to see if the rpi is the problem but same result.?
To sum up Conditions are: 2 laptops one as client and one as server.
The server has an static ip.?
This static ip is also on the router with port 9000.?
Then I turn on the ratflector. With drats as localhost:9000 to see activity. On the server laptop
?
Then I jump to the other laptop which is a client to see if I get connected to server. I go to radio and I create a network with the server ip address I.E
12.34.567.890. When I click on save my belief is that it should go to the server but it never connects. I get an error 10060 .?
So should I get connected to the server from the client without the NOIP as soon as I turn on the repeater????
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
To get a ratflector onto the Internet, people need to be able to find your IP address or a URL that points to that IP address.
?
I have been using NOIP.com for that purpose.? Since most home Internet routers get a Dynamic IP address from the provider, your home’s IP address is subject to change over time.? Once you have an account set up with NOIP.com, they will
give you a URL and you then download a program called DUC that periodically checks to see what your IP address is and reports it back to NOIP so they can adjust their record for your ratflector on the fly to make sure the URL always has the right path to get
traffic to your location.
?
I have been using them for several years.? I had made arrangements for dstarinfo.com to have it listed there.? From dstarinfo.com they set me up as
, but I can also be reached as which is the address issued by NOIP.? Having this set up was one of the most frustrating things for me, because if I simply told people what my IP address was, the next time something happened, like a power outage or glitch that caused
the equipment to reboot, the IP address would change to something else and no one could get in.? Also remember that your address issued by your Internet Provider and the address issued by your router to the devices in your home are two different things.? Isn’t
technology wonderful?!?
?
Getting the port range forwarding correct is another essential issue.? It requires you to set the ratflector up with a static IP address off your router, otherwise the same issue can occur.? The router is issuing local IP addresses on
a first come first serve basis.? A reboot could cause every device in your home to get reassigned a different IP from the router.? Since port forwarding has to be given a target device to send the traffic to when something comes in on port 9000, the address
of the ratflecter must be stable or else you will constantly have to go in and reassign the port forwarding information to point to the current one for the ratflector.
?
The ratflector also needs the added dependency software listed in the white paper added to the pi so the program will work.?? I’ve been running my ratflector on a Raspberry Pi 3-B for several years now, so I know it can be done.
?
Glen – KG5CEN
?
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To get a ratflector onto the Internet, people need to be able to find your IP address or a URL that points to that IP address.
?
I have been using NOIP.com for that purpose.? Since most home Internet routers get a Dynamic IP address from the provider, your home’s IP address is subject to change over time.? Once you have an account set up with NOIP.com, they will
give you a URL and you then download a program called DUC that periodically checks to see what your IP address is and reports it back to NOIP so they can adjust their record for your ratflector on the fly to make sure the URL always has the right path to get
traffic to your location.
?
I have been using them for several years.? I had made arrangements for dstarinfo.com to have it listed there.? From dstarinfo.com they set me up as
, but I can also be reached as
which is the address issued by NOIP.? Having this set up was one of the most frustrating things for me, because if I simply told people what my IP address was, the next time something happened, like
a power outage or glitch that caused the equipment to reboot, the IP address would change to something else and no one could get in.? Also remember that your address issued by your Internet Provider and the address issued by your router to the devices in your
home are two different things.? Isn’t technology wonderful?!?
?
Getting the port range forwarding correct is another essential issue.? It requires you to set the ratflector up with a static IP address off your router, otherwise the same issue can occur.? The router is issuing local IP addresses on a
first come first serve basis.? A reboot could cause every device in your home to get reassigned a different IP from the router.? Since port forwarding has to be given a target device to send the traffic to when something comes in on port 9000, the address
of the ratflecter must be stable or else you will constantly have to go in and reassign the port forwarding information to point to the current one for the ratflector.
?
The ratflector also needs the added dependency software listed in the white paper added to the pi so the program will work.?? I’ve been running my ratflector on a Raspberry Pi 3-B for several years now, so I know it can be done.
?
Glen – KG5CEN
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Glen Strecker