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GMail SMTP no longer works, where to go?


 

Hi,
???? l noticed GMail has cutoff unknown/unofficial? app access.? I presume DRats is in that category.? Does anyone have a nice free server they use successfully on DRats?? Thank you.

73
???? Rory W4RJG


 

GMail has changed its authentication mechanism (quite some time ago -- years) but it is possible to use an application?key/password to authenticate against GMail in these cases, but the software has to support it.

I have a notification?script I wrote in Python which sends emails via GMail, but to get it to work, I had to obtain a GMail application password and use it in my script to make it work.

73,

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 2:13 PM Rory Griffin, W4RJG <w4rjg@...> wrote:
Hi,
???? l noticed GMail has cutoff unknown/unofficial? app access.? I presume DRats is in that category.? Does anyone have a nice free server they use successfully on DRats?? Thank you.

73
???? Rory W4RJG


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More information can be found here:?


On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 2:33 PM Dave Slotter, W3DJS via <slotter=[email protected]> wrote:
GMail has changed its authentication mechanism (quite some time ago -- years) but it is possible to use an application?key/password to authenticate against GMail in these cases, but the software has to support it.

I have a notification?script I wrote in Python which sends emails via GMail, but to get it to work, I had to obtain a GMail application password and use it in my script to make it work.

73,

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 2:13 PM Rory Griffin, W4RJG <w4rjg@...> wrote:
Hi,
???? l noticed GMail has cutoff unknown/unofficial? app access.? I presume DRats is in that category.? Does anyone have a nice free server they use successfully on DRats?? Thank you.

73
???? Rory W4RJG


--
-- Dave,?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Technical Specialist,??--
--??+?? ? ? ? Lifetime Member of??&??&??--
--??--


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-- Dave,?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Technical Specialist,??--
--??+?? ? ? ? Lifetime Member of??&??&??--
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Dave,?
. .? Thank you!? I probably won't be able to work on it until next week but until then I probably won't be able to work on it until next week but until then I have a solution available.

73. Rory W4RJG


 

Glad to help.? :-)


On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 10:59 AM Rory Griffin, W4RJG <w4rjg@...> wrote:
Dave,?
. .? Thank you!? I probably won't be able to work on it until next week but until then I probably won't be able to work on it until next week but until then I have a solution available.

73. Rory W4RJG


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I had to set up an account on Outlook to get mine working again.? I think you can do that without having to pay anything, but I am a Microsoft Office 365 subscriber.? I just tested it before writing this and it is working.? Basically, Google has placed restrictions on the use of Gmail connections from what they consider “unsecure” programs.? Even though we are using passwords, we may be picking up and relaying mail from other hams.? One of the features in D-Rats allows you, when your station has lost Internet connectivity, to do a mail check through another station.? This basically passes your credentials through the other station to use their Internet connection to check your email account.? Anyway, Google used to allow you to turn the feature off but would go back and reset the thing a few days later breaking the system again.? They now will not allow you to leave your account open for D-rats to access.

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Glen – KG5CEN

StTammany.ratflector.com


 

Dave,
???? It worked!? That completed my mail connections.
73? Rory W4RJG


 

Excellent!


On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 23:25 Rory Griffin, W4RJG <w4rjg@...> wrote:
Dave,
???? It worked!? That completed my mail connections.
73? Rory W4RJG


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First, you have to sign up for an account with outlook, of course.? Tell it you want to access as a pop mail server.

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The D-Rats settings are as follows:

Under Outgoing Mail click to Enable SMTP

Port & Mode = 589 and check the box next to TLS

Server = outlook.office365.com

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Under the Email Server Tab:

Use SSL – click Enabled

Port = 995

Action = Forms

Click on Enabled at bottom of popup box.? Hit Okay and then Save.

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Glen – KG5CEN

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Hi Glenn:
Thank you.? A question I have, could those settings allow D-Rats to send regular email (not suing WL2K)?? ?I am able to retrieve my emails (GMail setting) from D-Rats.? Just curious SMTP setup allows both send / receive regular emails. Or if WL2K is required to send emails.?

Thank you very much.??

Edfel
KP4AJ

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 11:59 AM Glen Strecker <gstrecker55@...> wrote:

First, you have to sign up for an account with outlook, of course.? Tell it you want to access as a pop mail server.

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The D-Rats settings are as follows:

Under Outgoing Mail click to Enable SMTP

Port & Mode = 589 and check the box next to TLS

Server =

?

Under the Email Server Tab:

Use SSL – click Enabled

Port = 995

Action = Forms

Click on Enabled at bottom of popup box.? Hit Okay and then Save.

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Glen – KG5CEN

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Hi to y'll?
I'm also trying to config the drats outlook mail. I already turn on the pop imap setting on the outlook account. I placed all the info that Glenn provided and yet nothing happens.?

I 'wondering if on config>messages> popserver and smtp server must be enable with?
pop server with 995 ?
and smtp server with 589?

Sorry to interrupt
Respectfully
Jose NP3JD?

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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:04:21 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [d-rats] GMail SMTP no longer works, where to go?
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Hi Glenn:
Thank you.? A question I have, could those settings allow D-Rats to send regular email (not suing WL2K)?? ?I am able to retrieve my emails (GMail setting) from D-Rats.? Just curious SMTP setup allows both send / receive regular emails. Or if WL2K is required to send emails.?

Thank you very much.??

Edfel
KP4AJ

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 11:59 AM Glen Strecker <gstrecker55@...> wrote:

First, you have to sign up for an account with outlook, of course.? Tell it you want to access as a pop mail server.

?

The D-Rats settings are as follows:

Under Outgoing Mail click to Enable SMTP

Port & Mode = 589 and check the box next to TLS

Server =

?

Under the Email Server Tab:

Use SSL – click Enabled

Port = 995

Action = Forms

Click on Enabled at bottom of popup box.? Hit Okay and then Save.

?

Glen – KG5CEN

?


 

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The Outlook account can send and receive emails from normal email addresses and can also be used to send messages into the Winlink system but you have to do a few special things in order to get the Winlink system to accept the messages.

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On the To: line start with “wl2k:” followed by the address you are sending the message to and on the Subject: line you have to start with WL2K//.? Remember to make sure not to send any commercial items in the message or they will be rejected by Winlink.? So, no adds of any sort are allowed.

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Glen – KG5CEN


 

D-Rats can send/ receive POP/SMTP mail using an Outlook or other account just like any mail client. It is advisable to have an exclusive address (free) for just D-Rats. Reason is if you are trying to do some of the more advanced mail stuff in D-Rats (like forwarding internet email through a relay or mail server) you will not receive your messages if you are using that account on something like a phone that polls for email all the time. POP/SMTP, for those of us who have been around awhile, pulls the mail off the server. It's gone. If you check it with D-Rats, it won't be there. Yeah, there are some tweaks you can make to avoid this but for practical purposes, make an account just for D-Rats. Then you can open D-Rats and use that just like an old email client similar to a 25 year old client.?