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Re: Crosspoints design

Marcin G¨®rnicki
 

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OK, great, thanks.
It really looks easier.

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?take a look at the SB lighting modules

they do all you want (generates more code than you really need, but all the functionality)

they work standalone w/o SB


?mark



---In crestron@..., wrote:

I have a residential project: MC3, 12 x TPMC-4, 1x TMPC-9L, 4 x iPads (Crestron Apps), 23 x Keypads.
I have 20 locations (rooms, staircases, pool, garage) with 3-7 lightning circuits in each. Some of this circuits are controlled by relays, some by dimmers, some by DMX (RGB LEDS).
Some TP and KP will control "local" lights only but TPMC-9 and iPad will control all.
How to design crosspoints system for that ??
I started by setting ecross for each lighting circuit separate. Then I set ccross' es for each UI and routed them to ecross.
So for example for first TP I have 5 ccross (statically routed to 5 ecross by 5 eccon's) just to control lights.
Is that good way or maybe something easier??
Of course there will be AV and HVAC also to control.


Re: New VT Pro position and size changes...

Heath Volmer
 

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Welcome to Smart-graphics fun zone...

The Creston FTP site will have the older versions of VT and Core 3. ?If it "works", don't change it - especially if the upgrade is several versions newer. ?I'm dreading having to modify a project that I built in March. ?

I won't begin to try to suggest something for your problem. ?I can only provide moral support. :-\


On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:23 PM, <voodoojmh@...> wrote:

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Anyone using the new VT Pro/Smart Graphics?? I recently transitioned to a new laptop, opened some TP layouts I've been working on and found that the new VT has moved positions of all of my subpages and lists for the video switcher object.? When I put them back in the correct place, save then reopen the file, they go back to the wrong places again.?

Anyhow, does anyone have a solution?? Calling Crestron probably is the answer, or possibly rolling back to an older VT Pro version....speaking of, if I wanted to do that, where could I get an old installer?

Thanks,

Voodoo



New VT Pro position and size changes...

 

Anyone using the new VT Pro/Smart Graphics?? I recently transitioned to a new laptop, opened some TP layouts I've been working on and found that the new VT has moved positions of all of my subpages and lists for the video switcher object.? When I put them back in the correct place, save then reopen the file, they go back to the wrong places again.?

Anyhow, does anyone have a solution?? Calling Crestron probably is the answer, or possibly rolling back to an older VT Pro version....speaking of, if I wanted to do that, where could I get an old installer?

Thanks,

Voodoo


Re: Clearone XAP800 - Dialer

 

As chipmoodycs said, the XAP800 has no dialer, it's an audio mixer that can be used with the XAPTH2 for example as I did once.?


The XAP TH2 is an audioconference interface that has the dialer.


You have the Crestron macro in the libraries or you can easily find the manuals on internet with complete RS Protocol.



---In Crestron@..., <cfm@...> wrote:

Trick question, as the XAP800 has no dialer.


Otherwise, yes - I've always used the I2P offerings for the entire XAP line and never had any issues...


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

Has anyone controlled the dialer on a Clearone/Gentner XAP800?
There is a dialer for the AP800, but the protocol for most functions are different between the two models (XAP800 & AP800).

Any direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks.


Bluetooth to Serial

 

Has anyone ever used a Bluetooth to serial adapter to communicate with a processor.
Getting tired of unreliable usb adapters.


OT: Laptop screens

Heath Volmer
 

For those of you that have one of the 1920x1080 or 1200 screens on a 15" notebook - and whose eyes are not 20/20. Is adjusting the windows text DPI setting effective in the Crestron programs? Are there other gotchas to watch for. I know that some software doesn't pay attention.

I may need to get a Windows-only machine (we aren't going to talk about BootCamp) and the HP workstation model we are looking at only ships with the super-hi-res screen. My eyes aren't those of my youth...

Heath


Yamaha MTX-3

 

Somebody make MTX-3 control?
i listen Yamaha do not make it now?
only in next firmware ?generation ?


Re: Filtrete 3m-50 Wifi Tstat

 

Did you ever find an answer? Just ordered the Radio Thermostat CT-30 (same exact device) and I'm planning to integrate it into my home system if possible.



---In Crestron@..., <joe@...> wrote:

Has anyone seen a IP control module for these Tstats? How reliable are they to control via crestron.


Thanks!


Re: Help to program API to code

Germt van de Sande
 

Hello, here is a link of the files,
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Germt
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Op dinsdag 19 november 20:20 2013 schreef "thehidefsolution@..." het volgende:
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?I don't see the attachment. Can you please post it to the documents folder located in the files portion of the group??Thanks.


---In crestron@..., wrote:

Hello Mark,
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Into the attachment [Mod: attachments aren't allowed on this list.? Either post a link to the file or post it in the files section in the appropriate folder] there is the doc i have from our customer,
This is all i have, and i need only a start.
Programming into Simple + is not a problem only the translation from XML or JSON?to code.
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Thanks
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Germt



Op donderdag 14 november 16:43 2013 schreef Mark Delzer het volgende:

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Not to discourage your attempt, but until VERY recently JSON and XML were not easily handled with Crestron. ?That said, they still aren't easy today unless you are versed with C# and have Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Pro to develop within for use with SIMPL# libraries that can be called form SIMPL+. ?Whether you need to go down the road of SIMPL# will be determined by the device, the API, and what you need to control within the API. ?But with almost full certainty you will need to work within SIMPL+ to help make your life easier. ?I know this isn't helpful, but to kindly put it, you have not been thrown in the deep end. ?You've been hauled out to sea and thrown overboard at the Mariana Trench with cement shoes. ?To help us help you, please post what the device is and if the API is public a link to the APIs along with a set of goals for what you need to do and we can all be able to guide you a little bit more accurately. ?



Mark


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Germt van de Sande wrote:


>?
>
>
>Hello,
>They ask me
to program a module for an Video system by using there API.
>I never had
work with an API before and a i ?was wandering how that is working.
>?
>There are 2
API they sent me,
>1??????????????????? JSON
>2??????????????????? XMLCan someone
help me starting to work with a API documents and tell me how to translate it
into code.
>Maybe it¡¯s
very simple but I don¡¯t see how to start with it and use it into crestron.
>Thanks
>Germt








Re: Smart Graphics (weather widget)

 

Hi mate. After the widget is running on your panel there is a setup button (cogs I think) which you can change the units in. It will stay this way. The most annoying thing about it is it lists the "state" as AU which just looks wrong.


Re: Yale Lock Questions

 

Hi Lincoln,


1-???? Ok, so the locks use 4xAA batteries. But what is the expected lifespan (either in ¡°months¡± or ¡°cycles¡±) ¨C anyone have any ¡°real world¡± lifespan to comment on?

<<BDG>> Since the Yale Locks are all essentially the same and only the RF Interface cartridge changes, I would think the Micasa Verde web site and their conversations on the ZWave version may be most helpful.?? There is a fair amount of discussion in this part of the forum.?


2-???? What are the relative merits of keypad vs touchscreen? [at this point my plan is ¡°release door when I know who¡¯s at the door¡±/¡±release door when proper Prox card is used¡± more along the lines of an electrified door strike or ¡°standard¡± electronic leverset, i.e. I don¡¯t see actually entering PINs on the lock¡­but I¡¯d like to know if the touchscreen brings anything to the table]


<<BDG>> The concept if the touch screen is that it does not make it obvious to an potential intruder that there is a touch pad in place.?? Only when you touch with 3 or 4 fingers does it become active.?? Also, I personally like the look of the touch screen.? YMMV


3-???? It looks like they ship with a Kwikset keyway cylinder standard, but the Schlage SC1 keyway is optional. My house is on the SC1 keyway and I don¡¯t intend on replacing every lock. With the keyed alike [KA] cylinder can you actually specify the keying/pin heights, or is it only KA in so far as buying a lock at a hardware store is KA (e.g. you find these boxes with the same code and voilla!)

a.????? I can¡¯t see why there¡¯d be any problem with having a real locksmith rekey the cylinder but that just seems stupid if I already have to pay $_.__ to get the ¡°correct¡± cylinder from Crestron anyway.??


<<BDG>> Don know about this.?? You can also get Cylinders from Worthington distribution which is where I got mine.


4-???? Where is the ¡°module¡± for the lock ¨C I have the DB versions listed in Answer 5427 but the only thing ¡°Yale¡± related for an infinedEX gateway is the same ¡°Yale Lock (Generic)¡± that¡¯s been around for a year now with to module/from module serials ¨C and there don¡¯t seem to be any ¡°Yale¡­¡± modules in the database.

<<BDG>> Here is a link to the sample program and it includes the needed modules plus the generic yale lock module in the crestron library.


I have been using the Crestron Yale Locks and they have so far worked flawlessly.


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On Nov 19, 2013 10:10 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m considering putting an order in for one of the Yale/Infinet locks* and I¡¯m not sure if I¡¯m ¡°disappointed by the lack of information¡± or ¡°confused¡± or both. So I come here to the wealth of information¡­

?

1-???? Ok, so the locks use 4xAA batteries. But what is the expected lifespan (either in ¡°months¡± or ¡°cycles¡±) ¨C anyone have any ¡°real world¡± lifespan to comment on?

2-???? What are the relative merits of keypad vs touchscreen? [at this point my plan is ¡°release door when I know who¡¯s at the door¡±/¡±release door when proper Prox card is used¡± more along the lines of an electrified door strike or ¡°standard¡± electronic leverset, i.e. I don¡¯t see actually entering PINs on the lock¡­but I¡¯d like to know if the touchscreen brings anything to the table]

3-???? It looks like they ship with a Kwikset keyway cylinder standard, but the Schlage SC1 keyway is optional. My house is on the SC1 keyway and I don¡¯t intend on replacing every lock. With the keyed alike [KA] cylinder can you actually specify the keying/pin heights, or is it only KA in so far as buying a lock at a hardware store is KA (e.g. you find these boxes with the same code and voilla!)

a.????? I can¡¯t see why there¡¯d be any problem with having a real locksmith rekey the cylinder but that just seems stupid if I already have to pay $_.__ to get the ¡°correct¡± cylinder from Crestron anyway. ?

4-???? Where is the ¡°module¡± for the lock ¨C I have the DB versions listed in Answer 5427 but the only thing ¡°Yale¡± related for an infinedEX gateway is the same ¡°Yale Lock (Generic)¡± that¡¯s been around for a year now with to module/from module serials ¨C and there don¡¯t seem to be any ¡°Yale¡­¡± modules in the database.

?

?

*- While looking for pricing, I also stumbled across the HDXSPA¡­ yum. It would be perfect for the ¡°surround receiver for my living room¡± I¡¯ve been waiting to buy for the past 7 years¡­ If only it weren¡¯t 10x my budget [at Dealer] it would fit in my rack perfectly.

?

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider

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Re: Clearone XAP800 - Dialer

 

Confirms my thoughts, the dealer seems to think it does have a dialer.

The I2P module for the XAP800 doesn't have one, so I think you are dead right, there is no dialer.


Thanks Chip.?



---In Crestron@..., <cfm@...> wrote:

Trick question, as the XAP800 has no dialer.


Otherwise, yes - I've always used the I2P offerings for the entire XAP line and never had any issues...


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

Has anyone controlled the dialer on a Clearone/Gentner XAP800?
There is a dialer for the AP800, but the protocol for most functions are different between the two models (XAP800 & AP800).

Any direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: Yale Lock Questions

 

I can't answer most of your questions, but on a recent job the security guys used the Vista 128 and a Tuxedo Touch. A select group of lockset codes were also able to disarm the security system.

That's all of the experience I have with them.

Chris

On Nov 19, 2013 10:10 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...> wrote:

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I¡¯m considering putting an order in for one of the Yale/Infinet locks* and I¡¯m not sure if I¡¯m ¡°disappointed by the lack of information¡± or ¡°confused¡± or both. So I come here to the wealth of information¡­

?

1-???? Ok, so the locks use 4xAA batteries. But what is the expected lifespan (either in ¡°months¡± or ¡°cycles¡±) ¨C anyone have any ¡°real world¡± lifespan to comment on?

2-???? What are the relative merits of keypad vs touchscreen? [at this point my plan is ¡°release door when I know who¡¯s at the door¡±/¡±release door when proper Prox card is used¡± more along the lines of an electrified door strike or ¡°standard¡± electronic leverset, i.e. I don¡¯t see actually entering PINs on the lock¡­but I¡¯d like to know if the touchscreen brings anything to the table]

3-???? It looks like they ship with a Kwikset keyway cylinder standard, but the Schlage SC1 keyway is optional. My house is on the SC1 keyway and I don¡¯t intend on replacing every lock. With the keyed alike [KA] cylinder can you actually specify the keying/pin heights, or is it only KA in so far as buying a lock at a hardware store is KA (e.g. you find these boxes with the same code and voilla!)

a.????? I can¡¯t see why there¡¯d be any problem with having a real locksmith rekey the cylinder but that just seems stupid if I already have to pay $_.__ to get the ¡°correct¡± cylinder from Crestron anyway. ?

4-???? Where is the ¡°module¡± for the lock ¨C I have the DB versions listed in Answer 5427 but the only thing ¡°Yale¡± related for an infinedEX gateway is the same ¡°Yale Lock (Generic)¡± that¡¯s been around for a year now with to module/from module serials ¨C and there don¡¯t seem to be any ¡°Yale¡­¡± modules in the database.

?

?

*- While looking for pricing, I also stumbled across the HDXSPA¡­ yum. It would be perfect for the ¡°surround receiver for my living room¡± I¡¯ve been waiting to buy for the past 7 years¡­ If only it weren¡¯t 10x my budget [at Dealer] it would fit in my rack perfectly.

?

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider

?


Re: Clearone XAP800 - Dialer

 

Trick question, as the XAP800 has no dialer.


Otherwise, yes - I've always used the I2P offerings for the entire XAP line and never had any issues...


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

Has anyone controlled the dialer on a Clearone/Gentner XAP800?
There is a dialer for the AP800, but the protocol for most functions are different between the two models (XAP800 & AP800).

Any direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: OT: Digital Annotation Devices

 

I haven't tried the DGE-2's annotation yet, but the UPX-2 had the option to save annotation files to either USB or network shares.? Pretty sure it had an undo, but maybe not.


I hope the DGE-2 has the ability to save files - 'cos we have a couple of UPX-2 systems slated for "upgrades" to them.

("upgrade" meaning that the touch display and/or UPX-2 are no longer current products and *have* to be replaced when they break)? :(

? - Chip



---In Crestron@..., <jpride@...> wrote:

Am I missing something with Crestron Annotation engines (i.e. DVPHD, DGE-2) or are they really this rinky dink in their feature sets? I mean, no "Undo." No ability to save output. Pretty much, just pen width, color, and clear all. It seems to me the Boeckler Pointmaker is way more feature rich for a way less money.

I am usually embarassed when i program these systems up and hand them over to the end user during training. Its feels like a long series of "Sorry, it cant do that."

::::::::::::
J Pride



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
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All of the "display only" annotation solutions I've seen (Including something from Smart, but I'm not sure of the specific part #) have actually been "touchscreen that talks to the PC via USB and the PC generates the annotated video output"

In other words the loop out of the display is more "convenience" than actual video output... this means, of course, that you can only annotate over the (typically "built-in" or "room") computer and not over "any arbitrary source" -- and you can only annotate when a user is logged in and the driver/interface software is actually running.

Depending on the application that may be of no consequence but it is a very important limitation to consider.

For "annotate over anything" AFAIK, the only solution is a "real" annotation processor and (a) touchscreen(s) -- the Extron Annotator and Crestron DVPHD(-GB) have both proven themselves.

"The cheap comes out expensive"

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider



-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:04 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] OT: Digital Annotation Devices

Hi all,

I am looking what is out there for Digital Annotation units that have annotation processing built into a touchscreen. For example, the SMART SP500 series is 18-24" I think and you send a PC or video signal in and annotated signal comes out. The only other things I am familiar with are annotation processors which cost more since you need annotation processor AND the touchscreen.

Anything else out there? This would be hooked directly to a PC and not a roundtripped signal in/out of a switcher, but that could be possible.

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: Yale Lock Questions

Trey Chamrad - Hometunes
 

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1-????? Cant report, we just got our back orders¡­.and got one installed today.

2-????? We use pins for resi clients

3-????? Nothing to add

4-????? Go to the wonderful world of the ¡°Crestron Marketplace¡± where you will find all the modules you could ever want all jobs in a perfectly designed website interface that tries very hard to look like RTi¡¯s new website, IMO, hint of sarcasm, but the module is in there, I downloaded it and used it with a MC3, and had no problems;? you do have to change the RF ID to match your program, I used toolbox using network device tree view, it comes set to RF ID01; and yes you add the ¡°yale generic¡± into the configure under the EX GW, then connect to module you download, as you know.

*- haha yeah saw that too, finally, but wait, it only does what for how much¡­I thought they learned after the ADMS¡­.

5- the locks are very responsive and so far the feedback is great, so we are keeping our fingers crossed on battery life while we remove the Kwikset units with ViziaRF+ interface we were ¡°trying¡± to use¡­

?

Trey

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:11 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: [Crestron] Yale Lock Questions

?

?

I¡¯m considering putting an order in for one of the Yale/Infinet locks* and I¡¯m not sure if I¡¯m ¡°disappointed by the lack of information¡± or ¡°confused¡± or both. So I come here to the wealth of information¡­

?

1-???? Ok, so the locks use 4xAA batteries. But what is the expected lifespan (either in ¡°months¡± or ¡°cycles¡±) ¨C anyone have any ¡°real world¡± lifespan to comment on?

2-???? What are the relative merits of keypad vs touchscreen? [at this point my plan is ¡°release door when I know who¡¯s at the door¡±/¡±release door when proper Prox card is used¡± more along the lines of an electrified door strike or ¡°standard¡± electronic leverset, i.e. I don¡¯t see actually entering PINs on the lock¡­but I¡¯d like to know if the touchscreen brings anything to the table]

3-???? It looks like they ship with a Kwikset keyway cylinder standard, but the Schlage SC1 keyway is optional. My house is on the SC1 keyway and I don¡¯t intend on replacing every lock. With the keyed alike [KA] cylinder can you actually specify the keying/pin heights, or is it only KA in so far as buying a lock at a hardware store is KA (e.g. you find these boxes with the same code and voilla!)

a.????? I can¡¯t see why there¡¯d be any problem with having a real locksmith rekey the cylinder but that just seems stupid if I already have to pay $_.__ to get the ¡°correct¡± cylinder from Crestron anyway. ?

4-???? Where is the ¡°module¡± for the lock ¨C I have the DB versions listed in Answer 5427 but the only thing ¡°Yale¡± related for an infinedEX gateway is the same ¡°Yale Lock (Generic)¡± that¡¯s been around for a year now with to module/from module serials ¨C and there don¡¯t seem to be any ¡°Yale¡­¡± modules in the database.

?

?

*- While looking for pricing, I also stumbled across the HDXSPA¡­ yum. It would be perfect for the ¡°surround receiver for my living room¡± I¡¯ve been waiting to buy for the past 7 years¡­ If only it weren¡¯t 10x my budget [at Dealer] it would fit in my rack perfectly.

?

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider

?


Re: Smart Graphics (weather widget)

Owain Price
 

I believe it has to be done at run time unless the default lat/long setting has some impact. Setting Icon (gear upper right) -> units -> metric.

Hope that helps.


Thanks,
Owain Price
The Sound Room
St. Louis, MO

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of avsystemdesign@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:20 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Smart Graphics (weather widget)



Is there a way to change the weather widget from Farenheit to Celsius?
It does not look like you can, but there could very well be something I am missing.

Thanks!


Yale Lock Questions

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I¡¯m considering putting an order in for one of the Yale/Infinet locks* and I¡¯m not sure if I¡¯m ¡°disappointed by the lack of information¡± or ¡°confused¡± or both. So I come here to the wealth of information¡­

?

1-???? Ok, so the locks use 4xAA batteries. But what is the expected lifespan (either in ¡°months¡± or ¡°cycles¡±) ¨C anyone have any ¡°real world¡± lifespan to comment on?

2-???? What are the relative merits of keypad vs touchscreen? [at this point my plan is ¡°release door when I know who¡¯s at the door¡±/¡±release door when proper Prox card is used¡± more along the lines of an electrified door strike or ¡°standard¡± electronic leverset, i.e. I don¡¯t see actually entering PINs on the lock¡­but I¡¯d like to know if the touchscreen brings anything to the table]

3-???? It looks like they ship with a Kwikset keyway cylinder standard, but the Schlage SC1 keyway is optional. My house is on the SC1 keyway and I don¡¯t intend on replacing every lock. With the keyed alike [KA] cylinder can you actually specify the keying/pin heights, or is it only KA in so far as buying a lock at a hardware store is KA (e.g. you find these boxes with the same code and voilla!)

a.????? I can¡¯t see why there¡¯d be any problem with having a real locksmith rekey the cylinder but that just seems stupid if I already have to pay $_.__ to get the ¡°correct¡± cylinder from Crestron anyway. ?

4-???? Where is the ¡°module¡± for the lock ¨C I have the DB versions listed in Answer 5427 but the only thing ¡°Yale¡± related for an infinedEX gateway is the same ¡°Yale Lock (Generic)¡± that¡¯s been around for a year now with to module/from module serials ¨C and there don¡¯t seem to be any ¡°Yale¡­¡± modules in the database.

?

?

*- While looking for pricing, I also stumbled across the HDXSPA¡­ yum. It would be perfect for the ¡°surround receiver for my living room¡± I¡¯ve been waiting to buy for the past 7 years¡­ If only it weren¡¯t 10x my budget [at Dealer] it would fit in my rack perfectly.

?

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider

http://www.controlworks.com

?


Re: Clearone XAP800 - Dialer

 

All the time, the protocol is very similar between the AP10 and the XAP version, usually just a different "device type" parameter.? There may be an extra "channel" parameter in the XAP dialer, which is a fixed "1" for the line number, I can't remember if the AP's required that same parameter in the control string or not.

There should be modules available for it from Crestron, or you can create your own pretty easily as well.


I should mention that the dialers are not on the AP800 or the XAP800, but are seperate units, the AP10, or TH-1/2 are the stand-alone dialers.? There was also a XAP480T that had a dialer.? The 800's didn't get dialers integrated into them until the ConvergePro 880T model, before that, you had to use the stand-alone dialers models with the 800's.



---In Crestron@..., <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

Has anyone controlled the dialer on a Clearone/Gentner XAP800?
There is a dialer for the AP800, but the protocol for most functions are different between the two models (XAP800 & AP800).

Any direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: OT: Digital Annotation Devices

 

From my experience with the annotation on the DVPHD, no you're NOT missing anything.? I would highly suggest using a Boeckler Pointmaker or something else, as it has more features, and you don't have spend a bunch of time "trying to get it work right" like with the Crestron.


The other problem I had with DVPHD annotation, (this was doing remote annotation from one TP to the DVPHD), was the lag was so bad, you couldn't even draw a circle on it, as it would come out looking more like a diamond shap due to the processing lag of the annotation input.



---In Crestron@..., <jpride@...> wrote:

Am I missing something with Crestron Annotation engines (i.e. DVPHD, DGE-2) or are they really this rinky dink in their feature sets? I mean, no "Undo." No ability to save output. Pretty much, just pen width, color, and clear all. It seems to me the Boeckler Pointmaker is way more feature rich for a way less money.

I am usually embarassed when i program these systems up and hand them over to the end user during training. Its feels like a long series of "Sorry, it cant do that."

::::::::::::
J Pride



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
?

All of the "display only" annotation solutions I've seen (Including something from Smart, but I'm not sure of the specific part #) have actually been "touchscreen that talks to the PC via USB and the PC generates the annotated video output"

In other words the loop out of the display is more "convenience" than actual video output... this means, of course, that you can only annotate over the (typically "built-in" or "room") computer and not over "any arbitrary source" -- and you can only annotate when a user is logged in and the driver/interface software is actually running.

Depending on the application that may be of no consequence but it is a very important limitation to consider.

For "annotate over anything" AFAIK, the only solution is a "real" annotation processor and (a) touchscreen(s) -- the Extron Annotator and Crestron DVPHD(-GB) have both proven themselves.

"The cheap comes out expensive"

Lincoln

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider



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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:04 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] OT: Digital Annotation Devices

Hi all,

I am looking what is out there for Digital Annotation units that have annotation processing built into a touchscreen. For example, the SMART SP500 series is 18-24" I think and you send a PC or video signal in and annotated signal comes out. The only other things I am familiar with are annotation processors which cost more since you need annotation processor AND the touchscreen.

Anything else out there? This would be hooked directly to a PC and not a roundtripped signal in/out of a switcher, but that could be possible.

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