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Re: T-Slot Cross Slide Castings source?

 

Years ago I became dissatisfied with the compound hold down?arrangement?on my Commercial 12X36 and acquired a pair of cast iron pieces big enough to make a new crossfeed table. It was "T" slotted all the way across and the base of the compound was heavily modified to use four screws as a hold down system.I believe it doubled the stiffness of the lathe from tool to spindle. I mde "Yellow Pad" drawings (Still somewhere!) of all of the changes and these plus the second piece of cast iron were used by a friend to produce one that used a 10" Atlas compound that fitted a section of dovetail on one end of the new compound. I have?used and loved this?arrangement?for years. And I have?milled slots in the end of a 3 foot long cylinder head, a job too long for the Bridgeport mills! If there is any interest I will root round for my drawings and see if I can get them out to any interested parties!? Bill


On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 12:18?PM John W. via <firearms_engraving=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a milling attachment built for an Atlas Clausing 12X36 gathering dust that I do not need, my mills do that kind of work better. It came with the lathe and I’ve never used it. Is this something you’d be interested in? If so, contact me offline or via DM.
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John W


Re: T-Slot Cross Slide Castings source?

 

I have a milling attachment built for an Atlas Clausing 12X36 gathering dust that I do not need, my mills do that kind of work better. It came with the lathe and I’ve never used it. Is this something you’d be interested in? If so, contact me offline or via DM.
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John W


Re: T-Slot Cross Slide Castings source?

 

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??? Looks like their out of stock rite now , but if ya have a source for the cast iron they sell the plans/drawings separately?

animal

On 1/18/25 8:52 AM, Jeff Lowe via groups.io wrote:

Many years ago I recall seeing Tee slotted castings that could be machined to fit on top of the carriage, replacing the crossslide and compound to facilitate milling. Are these available anymore? I have been working with? lot 8020 type extrusions and am looking at setting my Craftsman Commercial 12" up as a horizontal mill.
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Thx, Jeff
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Re: T-Slot Cross Slide Castings source?

 

Metal lathe accessories kits.


On Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 6:02?PM Jeff Lowe via <jalowe=[email protected]> wrote:
Many years ago I recall seeing Tee slotted castings that could be machined to fit on top of the carriage, replacing the crossslide and compound to facilitate milling. Are these available anymore? I have been working with? lot 8020 type extrusions and am looking at setting my Craftsman Commercial 12" up as a horizontal mill.
?
Thx, Jeff
?


T-Slot Cross Slide Castings source?

 

Many years ago I recall seeing Tee slotted castings that could be machined to fit on top of the carriage, replacing the crossslide and compound to facilitate milling. Are these available anymore? I have been working with? lot 8020 type extrusions and am looking at setting my Craftsman Commercial 12" up as a horizontal mill.
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Thx, Jeff
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Re: history of my lathe

 

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Buy another computer or use VirtualBox.
https://www.virtualbox.org/

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Re: history of my lathe

 

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The firewalls are software, but i don't have admin privileges.?

I work for a defense contractor and I had to allow installation in order to receive access to company resources.?

When I retire, die, or change jobs, this will return to normal. Until then, I have to live within these limitations.

Even PBS is blocked as unsafe... I guess once a domain has a breach, they add it to the blocked list.

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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2025 4:32:04 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] history of my lathe
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@andrei if it is your firewall blocking it assuming its software go into the settings and the server address of the group under the allow section.? If its something else like you are behind a router that you bought and have the admin privileges to then same process.? if it is the firewall in the modem that came from your internet provider then its still the same process but you will need to try and persuade them to give you the admin privileges to? it


Re: history of my lathe

 

@andrei if it is your firewall blocking it assuming its software go into the settings and the server address of the group under the allow section.? If its something else like you are behind a router that you bought and have the admin privileges to then same process.? if it is the firewall in the modem that came from your internet provider then its still the same process but you will need to try and persuade them to give you the admin privileges to? it


Re: history of my lathe

 

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Very possible. I just don't know what to do to fix it so I just tolerate the randomness ?

Best Regards,
Andrei

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 5:19 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] history of my lathe
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perhaps your email are being screened . I'm in another group where my mails get screened & when they finally show up they do not include everything that I wrote .


On 1/17/25 1:14 PM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 09:05 PM, Andrei wrote:
Great, thanks for the context. I did a search of my email and only one of the early messages showed up. No idea where the rest have landed.
that's why i come to the web page if its something i want to read.? Emails go all over the place i cant tell you the amount of times i got an email 3 of 4 days later saying someone had commented on a particular topic


Re: history of my lathe

 

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perhaps your email are being screened . I'm in another group where my mails get screened & when they finally show up they do not include everything that I wrote .


On 1/17/25 1:14 PM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 09:05 PM, Andrei wrote:
Great, thanks for the context. I did a search of my email and only one of the early messages showed up. No idea where the rest have landed.
that's why i come to the web page if its something i want to read.? Emails go all over the place i cant tell you the amount of times i got an email 3 of 4 days later saying someone had commented on a particular topic


Re: history of my lathe

 

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what a jolly fella you are , maybe you can get the rest of your family to join in

On 1/17/25 12:59 PM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:

for the entitled among you that cant be bothered to read.? Im sure you will be none the wiser as you will still have to read but hey your welcome
t would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop

?



The best historical resource I know of is ?
?
Raymond
?

?



Atlas lathes (and their other machine tools) were promoted during WW-II for defense production. ?Simple parts, in a home workshop, let folks contribute to the War Effort and make some money too. ?In some of their period literature they mention exactly these uses. ?And given that the needs for EVERYTHING were so great, the fact that Atlas continued producing much of their product line throughout the war indicates that the government believed that the Atlas machines added value.
?
"In January 1942, the newly created War Production Board assumed responsibility for directing war procurement and production and establishing priorities for military and civilian use of materials and supplies." from
?
As to the specifics of how YOUR lathe came to the UK? ?It is all conjecture, but we know from Tony's site that Atlas machinery did make it to the UK.
?
Charlie

?



Here's a link to an interest ca. 1942 article about innovative uses of small machine tools in the war effort in the United States. I suspect the same motivations were in play in the U.K.??
?
Larry F.
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I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
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The Myford M7-7 was not introduced until 1947 so England.?
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I think that is an interesting data point in this discussion
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Steve
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Well, there is this account...
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-Wally
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At least 30,000 Harleys were sent over & I believe the bulk of those ended up in Russia . There's a company in the Netherlands? ( I think that's where it is? ) that is still selling OEM HArley parts . Here's the whole story from Wikipedia's eyes , interestin read .

On 11/22/24 7:25 AM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
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That is interesting. I was thinking about people making parts at home in the U.S. It would make more sense for that to happen in the UK where a large factory is going to be a target for the Germans. It must have been tough to keep those machines running with constant blackouts. They used to cut the lights to avoid aiding attacking aircraft.

On 11/22/2024 1:44 PM, I_am Wally via groups.io wrote:
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There's a bunch of South Bends over in England & I know of at least one company that was licensed to build South Bends in Australia . I'm sure there's more .

On 11/22/24 7:40 AM, Steve Bergeron via groups.io wrote:
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??? ??? I can imagine getting caught with one of these machines in? yer house by the wrong person could have very unpleasant result .

animal

On 11/22/24 7:36 PM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
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i watched a documentary about it.? lots of places were given false fronts and were windowless so they could run 24 hours a day

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What are you talking about??
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Provide some frame of reference, please.?
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None of us were in the same room with you when you watched, whatever you watched.
?
Get
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follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out

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For those of us that get individual emails, it is hard to follow the thread unless we logon to the group.

Bruce Monson bmonson61@...
On 1/17/2025 10:37 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
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Yes, the system has been inconsistent at delivering every message.
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For this reason alone, it makes sense to have at least the trailing messages included in a response, so people can get the needed context.?
?
Best Regards,
Andrei
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mailto:calciu1@...
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A really great reply to an honest concern.? One shouldn't have to dredge up all previous emails to understand what is being said.? It must suck being you.
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Re: history of my lathe

 

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Unfortunately, my firewall blocks all access to anything on groups.io, so I have to rely on what I receive and read.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of hedgesben via groups.io <hedgesben@...>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 4:14:04 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] history of my lathe
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On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 09:05 PM, Andrei wrote:
Great, thanks for the context. I did a search of my email and only one of the early messages showed up. No idea where the rest have landed.
that's why i come to the web page if its something i want to read.? Emails go all over the place i cant tell you the amount of times i got an email 3 of 4 days later saying someone had commented on a particular topic


Re: history of my lathe

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 09:05 PM, Andrei wrote:
Great, thanks for the context. I did a search of my email and only one of the early messages showed up. No idea where the rest have landed.
that's why i come to the web page if its something i want to read.? Emails go all over the place i cant tell you the amount of times i got an email 3 of 4 days later saying someone had commented on a particular topic


Re: history of my lathe

 

for those that do get single emails it says what the topic is about right in the subject line so i guess i was being unfair.? If they cant read that they wont manage 15 posts or what ever it was at.?


Re: history of my lathe

 

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Great, thanks for the context. I did a search of my email and only one of the early messages showed up. No idea where the rest have landed.

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of hedgesben via groups.io <hedgesben@...>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 3:59:50 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] history of my lathe
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for the entitled among you that cant be bothered to read.? Im sure you will be none the wiser as you will still have to read but hey your welcome
t would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop

?



The best historical resource I know of is ?
?
Raymond
?

?



Atlas lathes (and their other machine tools) were promoted during WW-II for defense production. ?Simple parts, in a home workshop, let folks contribute to the War Effort and make some money too. ?In some of their period literature they mention exactly these uses. ?And given that the needs for EVERYTHING were so great, the fact that Atlas continued producing much of their product line throughout the war indicates that the government believed that the Atlas machines added value.
?
"In January 1942, the newly created War Production Board assumed responsibility for directing war procurement and production and establishing priorities for military and civilian use of materials and supplies." from
?
As to the specifics of how YOUR lathe came to the UK? ?It is all conjecture, but we know from Tony's site that Atlas machinery did make it to the UK.
?
Charlie

?



Here's a link to an interest ca. 1942 article about innovative uses of small machine tools in the war effort in the United States. I suspect the same motivations were in play in the U.K.??
?
Larry F.
?

?



I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



The Myford M7-7 was not introduced until 1947 so England.?
?
I think that is an interesting data point in this discussion
?
Steve
?

?
?
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



Well, there is this account...
?
?
-Wally
?
?

?



At least 30,000 Harleys were sent over & I believe the bulk of those ended up in Russia . There's a company in the Netherlands? ( I think that's where it is? ) that is still selling OEM HArley parts . Here's the whole story from Wikipedia's eyes , interestin read .

On 11/22/24 7:25 AM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



That is interesting. I was thinking about people making parts at home in the U.S. It would make more sense for that to happen in the UK where a large factory is going to be a target for the Germans. It must have been tough to keep those machines running with constant blackouts. They used to cut the lights to avoid aiding attacking aircraft.

On 11/22/2024 1:44 PM, I_am Wally via groups.io wrote:
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There's a bunch of South Bends over in England & I know of at least one company that was licensed to build South Bends in Australia . I'm sure there's more .

On 11/22/24 7:40 AM, Steve Bergeron via groups.io wrote:
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??? ??? I can imagine getting caught with one of these machines in? yer house by the wrong person could have very unpleasant result .

animal

On 11/22/24 7:36 PM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
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i watched a documentary about it.? lots of places were given false fronts and were windowless so they could run 24 hours a day

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What are you talking about??
?
Provide some frame of reference, please.?
?
None of us were in the same room with you when you watched, whatever you watched.
?
Get
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follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out

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For those of us that get individual emails, it is hard to follow the thread unless we logon to the group.

Bruce Monson bmonson61@...
On 1/17/2025 10:37 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
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?



Yes, the system has been inconsistent at delivering every message.
?
For this reason alone, it makes sense to have at least the trailing messages included in a response, so people can get the needed context.?
?
Best Regards,
Andrei
?
mailto:calciu1@...
?
?
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



A really great reply to an honest concern.? One shouldn't have to dredge up all previous emails to understand what is being said.? It must suck being you.
?
?
toggle quoted message Show quoted text


Re: history of my lathe

 

for the entitled among you that cant be bothered to read.? Im sure you will be none the wiser as you will still have to read but hey your welcome
t would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2.
?
Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk?
?
of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime
?
many thanks
Coop

?



The best historical resource I know of is ?
?
Raymond
?

?



Atlas lathes (and their other machine tools) were promoted during WW-II for defense production. ?Simple parts, in a home workshop, let folks contribute to the War Effort and make some money too. ?In some of their period literature they mention exactly these uses. ?And given that the needs for EVERYTHING were so great, the fact that Atlas continued producing much of their product line throughout the war indicates that the government believed that the Atlas machines added value.
?
"In January 1942, the newly created War Production Board assumed responsibility for directing war procurement and production and establishing priorities for military and civilian use of materials and supplies." from
?
As to the specifics of how YOUR lathe came to the UK? ?It is all conjecture, but we know from Tony's site that Atlas machinery did make it to the UK.
?
Charlie

?



Here's a link to an interest ca. 1942 article about innovative uses of small machine tools in the war effort in the United States. I suspect the same motivations were in play in the U.K.??
?
Larry F.
?

?



I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us.

Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense.

On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



The Myford M7-7 was not introduced until 1947 so England.?
?
I think that is an interesting data point in this discussion
?
Steve
?

?
?
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



Well, there is this account...
?
?
-Wally
?
?

?

At least 30,000 Harleys were sent over & I believe the bulk of those ended up in Russia . There's a company in the Netherlands? ( I think that's where it is? ) that is still selling OEM HArley parts . Here's the whole story from Wikipedia's eyes , interestin read .

On 11/22/24 7:25 AM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



That is interesting. I was thinking about people making parts at home in the U.S. It would make more sense for that to happen in the UK where a large factory is going to be a target for the Germans. It must have been tough to keep those machines running with constant blackouts. They used to cut the lights to avoid aiding attacking aircraft.

On 11/22/2024 1:44 PM, I_am Wally via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

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?



There's a bunch of South Bends over in England & I know of at least one company that was licensed to build South Bends in Australia . I'm sure there's more .

On 11/22/24 7:40 AM, Steve Bergeron via groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

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?



??? ??? I can imagine getting caught with one of these machines in? yer house by the wrong person could have very unpleasant result .

animal

On 11/22/24 7:36 PM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:
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?



i watched a documentary about it.? lots of places were given false fronts and were windowless so they could run 24 hours a day

?



What are you talking about??
?
Provide some frame of reference, please.?
?
None of us were in the same room with you when you watched, whatever you watched.
?
Get
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out

?



For those of us that get individual emails, it is hard to follow the thread unless we logon to the group.

Bruce Monson bmonson61@...
On 1/17/2025 10:37 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:
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Yes, the system has been inconsistent at delivering every message.
?
For this reason alone, it makes sense to have at least the trailing messages included in a response, so people can get the needed context.?
?
Best Regards,
Andrei
?
mailto:calciu1@...
?
?
toggle quoted message Show quoted text

?

?



A really great reply to an honest concern.? One shouldn't have to dredge up all previous emails to understand what is being said.? It must suck being you.
?
?
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Re: history of my lathe

 

A really great reply to an honest concern.? One shouldn't have to dredge up all previous emails to understand what is being said.? It must suck being you.


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follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out


Re: history of my lathe

 

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Yes, the system has been inconsistent at delivering every message.

For this reason alone, it makes sense to have at least the trailing messages included in a response, so people can get the needed context.?

Best Regards,
Andrei

mailto:calciu1@...
?
?


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of hedgesben via groups.io <hedgesben@...>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 11:37 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] history of my lathe
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follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out


Re: history of my lathe

 

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For those of us that get individual emails, it is hard to follow the thread unless we logon to the group.

Bruce Monson bmonson61@...
On 1/17/2025 10:37 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:

follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out


Re: history of my lathe

 

follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out