Re: history of my lathe

for the entitled among you that cant be bothered to read.? Im sure you will be none the wiser as you will still have to read but hey your welcome

t would be interesting to try and find out the history of my lathe and how it came to be in the uk.? It appears that it was made end of april /beginning of may 1941 (going by the dates on the headstock bearings) so right when America was ramping up the lease lend program during ww2. ? Was atlas involved in the lease lend?? where lathes sent to the uk? ? of course the slightly less historical important theory is that an american solder bought it before the americans went to war and then relocated over here after the war sometime ? many thanks Coop ? Reply Like More ?
mondosmetals 11/21/24 ? #117061?? The best historical resource I know of is ? ? Raymond ? ? Reply Like More ?
charles brady 11/21/24 ? #117062?? Atlas lathes (and their other machine tools) were promoted during WW-II for defense production. ?Simple parts, in a home workshop, let folks contribute to the War Effort and make some money too. ?In some of their period literature they mention exactly these uses. ?And given that the needs for EVERYTHING were so great, the fact that Atlas continued producing much of their product line throughout the war indicates that the government believed that the Atlas machines added value. ? "In January 1942, the newly created War Production Board assumed responsibility for directing war procurement and production and establishing priorities for military and civilian use of materials and supplies." from ? As to the specifics of how YOUR lathe came to the UK? ?It is all conjecture, but we know from Tony's site that Atlas machinery did make it to the UK. ? Charlie ? Reply Like More ?
lfelton 11/21/24 ? #117063?? Here's a link to an interest ca. 1942 article about innovative uses of small machine tools in the war effort in the United States. I suspect the same motivations were in play in the U.K.?? ? Larry F. ? ? Reply Like More ?
Mike Poore 11/22/24 ? #117066?? I recall lend/lease was already well underway by spring of 1941. We entered the war by the end of 1941. Lend/lease began, I think, in the late 30's when the UK entered the war. By 1942, we were sending massive amounts of equipment and soldiers to the UK to stage for invasion. A lathe made in spring of 1941, would have taken several months to find its way to the UK by ship. Assuming the bearing date is meaningful, I think it is equally possible that the lathe was part of lend/lease or part of the US Army supply chain. We are known to leave a lot of equipment behind after a war so that our military contractors can make more profit resupplying us. Bearing dates during that period are probably not as certain of an indicator as one might think. It was obviously? a little chaotic. Those bearings may not have been immediately used. They could be replacement bearings too. Atlas would not have been directly involved in lend/lease, but they were certainly a supplier. The US government would buy products from manufacturers and lend/lease it to the UK. You will often find a tag on machine tools made for the War Dept with some language indicating such. I do not know if that was required or done because the machinery was not always made to the same standards as commercial products. I doubt too many people were actually making parts at home for the war. However, nearly everything was rationed due to shortages. Having a lathe at home to make or repair parts not available would make sense. On 11/21/2024 2:41 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text ? ? Reply Like More ?
Steve Bergeron 11/22/24 ? #117067?? The Myford M7-7 was not introduced until 1947 so England.? ? I think that is an interesting data point in this discussion ? Steve ? ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text ? ? Reply Like More ?
I_am Wally 11/22/24 ? #117068?? Well, there is this account... ? ? -Wally ? ? ? Reply Like More ?
mike allen 11/22/24 ? #117069??

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At least 30,000 Harleys were sent over & I believe the bulk of those ended up in Russia . There's a company in the Netherlands? ( I think that's where it is? ) that is still selling OEM HArley parts . Here's the whole story from Wikipedia's eyes , interestin read .

On 11/22/24 7:25 AM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:

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11/23/24 ? #117071??

That is interesting. I was thinking about people making parts at home in the U.S. It would make more sense for that to happen in the UK where a large factory is going to be a target for the Germans. It must have been tough to keep those machines running with constant blackouts. They used to cut the lights to avoid aiding attacking aircraft.

On 11/22/2024 1:44 PM, I_am Wally via groups.io wrote:

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11/23/24 ? #117072??

There's a bunch of South Bends over in England & I know of at least one company that was licensed to build South Bends in Australia . I'm sure there's more .

On 11/22/24 7:40 AM, Steve Bergeron via groups.io wrote:

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??? ??? I can imagine getting caught with one of these machines in? yer house by the wrong person could have very unpleasant result .

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On 11/22/24 7:36 PM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:

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11:29am ? #117198??

i watched a documentary about it.? lots of places were given false fronts and were windowless so they could run 24 hours a day

3:08pm ? #117199??

What are you talking about??

Provide some frame of reference, please.?

None of us were in the same room with you when you watched, whatever you watched.

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4:37pm ? #117200??

follow the thread of the conversation and im sure you can follow along it must suck feeling left out

5:07pm ? #117201??

For those of us that get individual emails, it is hard to follow the thread unless we logon to the group.

Bruce Monson bmonson61@...

On 1/17/2025 10:37 AM, hedgesben via groups.io wrote:

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5:11pm ? #117202??

Yes, the system has been inconsistent at delivering every message.

For this reason alone, it makes sense to have at least the trailing messages included in a response, so people can get the needed context.?

Best Regards,

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8:31pm ? #117203??

A really great reply to an honest concern.? One shouldn't have to dredge up all previous emails to understand what is being said.? It must suck being you.

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