Re: Non factory 10in. Steady rest
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Of course. We all scrounge for parts for these old lathes. Nobody minds getting an early crack at an item, before ebay. As long as you don't spam the list, you're good.
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Just checking, i have accessories left over from selling my lathe. My question is can i list them here for sale instead of Ebay? I saw the for sale forum and the last thing listed was in 2018. I just don’t want to ?cause problems.?
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Just checking, i have accessories left over from selling my lathe. My question is can i list them here for sale instead of Ebay? I saw the for sale forum and the last thing listed was in 2018. I just don’t want to ?cause problems.?
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Non factory 10in. Steady rest
I have a 10in. Steady that i have had for 30years and when i decided to sell it i discovered it didn’t have casting numbers on it. Has anyone seen these before. The casting is clean and looks factory and nothing like a chinese casting and fits the bed like a glove. Anybody else have info on this steady?
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
??? All of the 4 ways like in yer pic? that I have seen &
used have? ball detentes in the bottom so the tool post moves in
increments & is it's square on one side if ya use the
detentes?? , ya may flip yers over & see if it's missing the
ball & spring or if it even had one . It should be square for
the other 3 sides . If ya have a 123 block , squaring up the tool
post is a breeze . I just put it between the tool post & chuck
& run the carriage up with the tool pose slightly loose , it
will square itself & then ya tighten the tool post . My QCTP
is a wedge type & I got it at either CDCO tools or CME tools ,
good quality & the price was good . With ya being over the
pond I'm guessing that freight will be a matter . I have bought
from Chronos in the past , I know they have them .
animal
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here are
some pics of the home made tool post as requested
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
A machinist would not be able to buy the steel for the AXA tool holders, for the price of buying them ready made. You would also need to buy the set screws, the long screw, and the two height stop knobs. And the commercial ones are also heat treated (well,
some of them, anyway).?
Go to eBay and buy your tool bit holders for 10-12 bucks a pop and rejoyce.?
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How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO.
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and
shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a
cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
I think the Myford style post would work well the 10" Atlas.
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On Oct 21, 2024, at 8:16?AM, hedgesben via groups.io <hedgesben@...> wrote:
? thanks for the replies
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@ Bill unfortunately the original lantern style post got lost years ago i assume and being in the uk trying to source one on ebay etc is expensive by the time postage is factored in.
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@ Ion thanks i will see if i can source one of those over here
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
How about buying a milling attachment for your lathe, then you can make your own holders.? As you stated, that is what a machinist would DO.
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
thanks for the replies
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@ Bill unfortunately the original lantern style post got lost years ago i assume and being in the uk trying to source one on ebay etc is expensive by the time postage is factored in.
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@ Ion thanks i will see if i can source one of those over here
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
I started out with a "rocker" style tool post.? It work but would often catch the bit and move it off center.? When I managed to get one of the 4 sided posts, I thot it was a wonder.? But after a while, it got very tiresome to put a bit in and shim it to the right height, and for each bit having to do this. Putting "4" bits in at once usually did not work.
When I managed to get hold of the Aloris style tool post I was simply amazed at how well it work, how easy it was to change a tool--and it was pre-set to the right height.? The only problem was having a separate holder for each tool.??
Well . . . .? There is a solution--you can make one.? Or you could buy a cheapo Chinese one.? That's what I would do.? Look into Shars in the USA, but you were talking Lbs not USD so most likely your are in Britain.? I'm sure there must be a cheapo sales company in Britain.? If it were me, and I had access to milling capability, I would make one--lots of fun to make your own tools.? After all, that's what machining is:? Making a tool to make a tool to make a final piece.? Done it many times.
I bought a bundle of the slide on tool holders but as every machinist knows, you never have enough tools, so I will get around to making more.? I have a good supply of the right type of steel for making the holders.
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
Mine is the wedge style, as that was what my school was using on their larger lathes, though BXA & CXA sizes. I'm told the piston style doesn't grip as well, but you couldn't prove it by me.?
It is a good idea to also have the lantern or American style tool post and an assortment of toolholders for that, as well. They will do things the AXA style won't do as well, and the AXA style does some things the lantern style doesn't? do as well. I can't see where having a 4-way block tool holder would hurt anything, either. :)?
Of course, I'm? a toolohaulic, so might not be the best model...
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 09:42:03 AM CDT, Jon Elson <elson@...> wrote:
On 10/21/24 08:26, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
I put an AXA clone on my TH42 some years ago. Works well.
Got mine from Amazon for $130, but they've gone up in
price since then. By quite a bit.?
I second this.? I got a Phase-II brand clone of the Aloris-style
toolpost, and it was a HUGE improvement in both rigidity and
repeatability.? You could take the tool (with the holder) off,
swap to another tool, and then put it back exactly.
These come in wedge and piston styles.? I had the piston style
one on my Atlas, and it was fine.? I now have a wedge style on my
15" Sheldon lathe, and it is fine, too.? Usually the wedge types
are more expensive.
Jon
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On 10/21/24 08:26, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
I put an AXA clone on my TH42 some years ago. Works well.
Got mine from Amazon for $130, but they've gone up in
price since then. By quite a bit.?
I second this.? I got a Phase-II brand clone of the Aloris-style
toolpost, and it was a HUGE improvement in both rigidity and
repeatability.? You could take the tool (with the holder) off,
swap to another tool, and then put it back exactly.
These come in wedge and piston styles.? I had the piston style
one on my Atlas, and it was fine.? I now have a wedge style on my
15" Sheldon lathe, and it is fine, too.? Usually the wedge types
are more expensive.
Jon
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
I put an AXA clone on my TH42 some years ago. Works well.
Got mine from Amazon for $130, but they've gone up in price since then. By quite a bit.?
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 02:00:07 AM CDT, <hedgesben@...> wrote:
hi all, The lathe i have came with a home made tool post that holds 4 toolbits at once. however to change between the 4 bits you have to turn the tool post round and some how get it back square i presume (im a complete newbie).? there are 4 allen head bolts holding the tool bit in so i assume i would have to undo those and reset everything up if i wanted a different bit. ?
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All this to say what quick change toolpost with the dovetail holders would work and is it worth spending a couple of hundred pounds?? ?
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many thanks
Ben
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
here are some pics of the home made tool post as requested
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Re: atlas 10" quick change tool post
Pictures make a world of difference if you want help.
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atlas 10" quick change tool post
hi all, The lathe i have came with a home made tool post that holds 4 toolbits at once. however to change between the 4 bits you have to turn the tool post round and some how get it back square i presume (im a complete newbie).? there are 4 allen head bolts holding the tool bit in so i assume i would have to undo those and reset everything up if i wanted a different bit. ?
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All this to say what quick change toolpost with the dovetail holders would work and is it worth spending a couple of hundred pounds?? ?
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many thanks
Ben
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Re: ATLAS MF HORIZONTAL MILLING MACHINE
??? that probably the one my wife got a pic of last nite .
On 10/19/24 8:02 PM, Andrei wrote:
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You guys know, there is also an Atlas comet
visible this month. Wonder if it is made in the same factory as
the lathes....
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There were also Atlas branded metal shapers.?
Charles
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??? I know we always talk about the lathes being made by
Atlas , so who made the horizontal mills , was it Atlas
also ?
animal
On 10/19/24 5:14 AM, Steve
Lil wrote:
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Thank You Brandon Corey That is the exact document
I've been looking for. Much appreciated! I spent a few
hours in my shop yesterday pouring over this parts
manual.? My Mill is only called out as model "MF" and
serial number "005891" these don't seem to align with
the parts manual notations. well regardless I'm doing a
complete cleaning , painting and reassembly. ill see
what's missing as i move forward. again thank you for
the link!
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Re: ATLAS MF HORIZONTAL MILLING MACHINE
You guys know, there is also an Atlas comet visible this month. Wonder if it is made in the same factory as the lathes....
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There were also Atlas branded metal shapers.?
Charles
On Oct 19, 2024, at 1:28?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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??? I know we always talk about the lathes being made by Atlas , so who made the horizontal mills , was it Atlas also ?
animal
On 10/19/24 5:14 AM, Steve Lil wrote:
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Thank You Brandon Corey That is the exact document I've been looking for. Much appreciated! I spent a few hours in my shop yesterday pouring over this parts manual.? My Mill is only called out as model "MF" and serial number "005891" these don't seem to
align with the parts manual notations. well regardless I'm doing a complete cleaning , painting and reassembly. ill see what's missing as i move forward. again thank you for the link!
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Re: ATLAS MF HORIZONTAL MILLING MACHINE
There were also Atlas branded metal shapers.?
Charles
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On Oct 19, 2024, at 1:28?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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??? I know we always talk about the lathes being made by Atlas ,
so who made the horizontal mills , was it Atlas also ?
animal
On 10/19/24 5:14 AM, Steve Lil wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
Thank You Brandon Corey That is the exact document I've been
looking for. Much appreciated! I spent a few hours in my shop
yesterday pouring over this parts manual.? My Mill is only
called out as model "MF" and serial number "005891" these don't
seem to align with the parts manual notations. well regardless
I'm doing a complete cleaning , painting and reassembly. ill see
what's missing as i move forward. again thank you for the link!
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Re: new machine new hobby
Regarding detent balls and springs—
Your local bicycle shop can sell you a 3/16" ball for a few pennies. This is the size used in front wheel hubs, usually 10 per side. Though nice bikes went away from loose-ball parts years ago in favor of industry-standard, precision, annular bearings, there are many millions of bikes on the road using 5/32", 3/16", and 1/4" balls and every shop has some dead parts you can harvest them from.
I've had good luck going to the Ace Hardware across the street for springs and screws from the Hillman assortments. You get a few generic, cup-point set screws and practice altering the points. They're easily turned or filed (I have a Unimat for this kind of stuff).
Tim
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Bill in OKC too