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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Brilliant! thank you Thor.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:25 PM Thor Z < thor276@...> wrote: Hi Guys,? If you want my Piano patch for the FS1R you can download it here.??
I also wrote an article on how it's programmed, if you want to see it described.??
My patch sounds a little better than Manny's and it only uses one Part, not eight.? Manny's is a mess, he kept adding more and more to it to try and fix the holes where it sounded off and ended up using all eight Parts of one patch in his Montage (64 operators!) and it still has problems.? Mine isn't perfect, but I think it accomplishes the task far more efficiently.
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Guys,? If you want my Piano patch for the FS1R you can download it here.??
I also wrote an article on how it's programmed, if you want to see it described.??
My patch sounds a little better than Manny's and it only uses one Part, not eight.? Manny's is a mess, he kept adding more and more to it to try and fix the holes where it sounded off and ended up using all eight Parts of one patch in his Montage (64 operators!) and it still has problems.? Mine isn't perfect, but I think it accomplishes the task far more efficiently.
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That's brilliant, wow, really excited now haha...? I stopped using Facebook for a few days, but I'll find the group on there soon.? Until then I'll just be here ?
-------- Original message -------- From: Thor Z <thor276@...> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 10:48 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FS1R] Hello all!!!
I recommended the Editor because it makes it really easy to map
physical controllers on the Fader Fox to internal parameters in
the FS1R.? It's much simpler than menu diving on the FS1R.
Thor
On 8/18/2020 3:45 AM, b_d wrote:
Awesome, cheers for the link.?
Yes, I'm very interested in this but also physical
controllers.?
I was thinking of getting something like the Fader Fox PC4
and mapping to its knobs...?
-------- Original message --------
From: Thor Z <thor276@...>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 01:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FS1R] Hello all!!!
Here's a link to the Editor:
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I recommended the Editor because it makes it really easy to map
physical controllers on the Fader Fox to internal parameters in
the FS1R.? It's much simpler than menu diving on the FS1R.
Thor
On 8/18/2020 3:45 AM, b_d wrote:
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Awesome, cheers for the link.?
Yes, I'm very interested in this but also physical
controllers.?
I was thinking of getting something like the Fader Fox PC4
and mapping to its knobs...?
-------- Original message --------
From: Thor Z <thor276@...>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 01:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FS1R] Hello all!!!
Here's a link to the Editor:
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Awesome, cheers for the link.? Yes, I'm very interested in this but also physical controllers.? I was thinking of getting something like the Fader Fox PC4 and mapping to its knobs...?
-------- Original message -------- From: Thor Z <thor276@...> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 01:33 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FS1R] Hello all!!! Here's a link to the Editor:
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Thanks Thor.? I'll look up the Facebook group as well.?
-------- Original message -------- From: Thor Z <thor276@...> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 01:31 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FS1R] Hello all!!! Hi There!? Been kinda quiet around here lately, I've found more action over on the FS1R Facebook page.? Anyway, the first thing you need is the free K-Take FS1R Editor (it's both Mac and PC).? There is a controllers page in it with the control matrix, it's the easiest way to map in external controllers, with a long list of all of the possible destinations.??
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Here's a link to the Editor:
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Hi There!? Been kinda quiet around here lately, I've found more action over on the FS1R Facebook page.? Anyway, the first thing you need is the free K-Take FS1R Editor (it's both Mac and PC).? There is a controllers page in it with the control matrix, it's the easiest way to map in external controllers, with a long list of all of the possible destinations.??
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Thanks for having me.?
I've had an fs1r for only a few weeks, although I've wanted one for years!
I'm here to learn more about it, understand how to program it and so on.?
I'm interested to know about possibilities for external controllers.?
I have A LOT of vintage synths and drum machines and make an assortment of music, mainly acid trax.?
I'm looking forward to contributing to this group!
Thanks again ??
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Hi Guys, I finally have a Piano patch working most of the way.? I wrote an article on it and put a link to the patch and some demo mp3's on my web page.? You can find it here:?
The patch has some short comings, mostly slight balance issues in the different registers.? It's not a perfect Piano, but overall I think it sounds pretty good.? I've listened to it too much though, my objectivity is getting blurred.? I decided to stop working on it and get some comments on it instead.?
Any interest guys?
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Hello !
My name is Anders and I have an fs1r that I really like, I also have an EX5 with flash memory as well as a not yet mounted scsi-card. Other Yamaha gear I have includes, two KX88, a Motif XS7, a Motif XS Rack, an AN1 and an A3000 sampler and a SPX990 and probably some more Y-gear that i've forgotten.. My first synth experience was with a brand new DX7 when they were launched and I still like them but mostly using opensource Dexed for that.
I run everything in my studio as well as on live gigs on Linux and all the editors for my gear has been running great in Linux with Wine.
I hope this group will grow and stay for a long time.
/Anders
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Thor,
I think many FS1R users will be very curious how you are going to
incorporate your findings into a great sounding pianopatch.
Many thanks? to your ongoing persute to accomplish this!
Let us knows your progression.
Hans
Op 24-6-2020 om 18:04 schreef Thor Z:
Hi Hans,
I'm thinking of using groups of harmonics, with each set offset
a bit more and spaced a little wider as you go up in frequency.?
There isn't any way to get a progressive fan naturally in FM,
but we can approximate it.? I have the Piano harmonics laid out
in a spreadsheet, so I know what the spacing should be.? I also
have some recordings of the sympathetic resonance, the
background sound in a Piano, that should help it sound more
realistic.? Add in a damper thunk, and I think it should sound
pretty authentic.
Thor
On 6/24/2020 8:50 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
Hi Thor,
Thank you for the explanation. I see what you mean with the
wider apart harmonics. How would the FM aproach be with that? I
thought it would be simple detuning of modulators to get that
effect or am i wrong with this?
Hans
Op 24-6-2020 om 16:13 schreef Thor
Z:
Hi Hans,
Inharmonicity is technically an expanding fan of harmonics
like this:
See how the harmonic peaks get wider and wider apart as you
go higher and higher in frequency?? This one is really
exaggerated, off the Yamaha VP1.? The next one is from a
Trombone, it's pretty normal, no inharmonicity.
Both of these plots are for the same pitched note.?
Inharmonicity does not simply mean dissonant harmonics, it
means a specific arrangement of dissonant harmonics.? The
term was coined by researchers back in and 80's and
popularized by Yamaha back when they were working on the
Yamaha VP1 in the 90's.? The Piano is the prime example of
inharmonicity in research papers.
Thor
On 6/24/2020 7:55 AM, Hans van
den Tillaart wrote:
Hey Thor,
In the FS1R you can use the unvoiced operators with some
adjustments as voiced ones so wich make it 16 operators to
work with (from your paper). But i understand the
limitations on that route. With the inharmonicity you mean
the effect of more detuned operators going up the keyboard?
?Also it is possible to use software applications like DEXED
?
for further additional polishing the sound...
But the main focus is ofcourse to get the most of our
beloved FS1R.
If you could make that happen al the FS1R users would be
cheering you from there rooftops.;)?
Also there are ofcourse other emulations like Rhodes and the
like wich could be tackled better...
Best wishes,
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 20:59 schreef
Thor Z:
OK Hans, I went and listened to Manny's first video on
his Piano patch... Holy Moly, Batman!? He's created
eight entirely different patches which are mixed
together to get his single Piano sound.? We don't have
eight Parts in an FS1R, we only have four.? It would
take two FS1R's to implement his Montage Piano patch.?
Sorry.
All is not lost, though.? Manny is from the "add more
and more stuff until it sounds right" school of
thought.? Most people are this way, actually.? But
wouldn't it be more efficient if you targeted a Piano
sound right out of the box?? I think so.? I'm going to
have to work on this myself, to see what I can come up
with.
He uses the term 'inharmonicity' wrong too, but that's
ok.? Only engineers and researchers actually know what
it really means.? But he should know better, I explained
it in detail in my paper on the VP1, which he read.? He
made a lot of red-line comments too, which I very
carefully corrected.? He knows a lot about the internal
Yamaha VL1/VP1 politics which I could only speculate
on.? Anyway.
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans
van den Tillaart wrote:
Hi Fred and
Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is
the best for your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for
instrument emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best
Piano patch there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch
written bij Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we
would be close...
You can find it here:
?
It would
certainly make my day if this patch could be
translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22
schreef Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works
great!? There are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program
the FS1R, I've written an FM-Programming Guide which
you can download off my website.? It goes into the
FS1R in the latter chapters on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM,
Saxfred wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a
huge amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Hans,
I'm thinking of using groups of harmonics, with each set offset a
bit more and spaced a little wider as you go up in frequency.?
There isn't any way to get a progressive fan naturally in FM, but
we can approximate it.? I have the Piano harmonics laid out in a
spreadsheet, so I know what the spacing should be.? I also have
some recordings of the sympathetic resonance, the background sound
in a Piano, that should help it sound more realistic.? Add in a
damper thunk, and I think it should sound pretty authentic.
Thor
On 6/24/2020 8:50 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
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Show quoted text
Hi Thor,
Thank you for the explanation. I see what you mean with the wider
apart harmonics. How would the FM aproach be with that? I thought
it would be simple detuning of modulators to get that effect or am
i wrong with this?
Hans
Op 24-6-2020 om 16:13 schreef Thor Z:
Hi Hans,
Inharmonicity is technically an expanding fan of harmonics
like this:
See how the harmonic peaks get wider and wider apart as you
go higher and higher in frequency?? This one is really
exaggerated, off the Yamaha VP1.? The next one is from a
Trombone, it's pretty normal, no inharmonicity.
Both of these plots are for the same pitched note.?
Inharmonicity does not simply mean dissonant harmonics, it
means a specific arrangement of dissonant harmonics.? The term
was coined by researchers back in and 80's and popularized by
Yamaha back when they were working on the Yamaha VP1 in the
90's.? The Piano is the prime example of inharmonicity in
research papers.
Thor
On 6/24/2020 7:55 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
Hey Thor,
In the FS1R you can use the unvoiced operators with some
adjustments as voiced ones so wich make it 16 operators to
work with (from your paper). But i understand the limitations
on that route. With the inharmonicity you mean the effect of
more detuned operators going up the keyboard?
?Also it is possible to use software applications like DEXED ?
for further additional polishing the sound...
But the main focus is ofcourse to get the most of our beloved
FS1R.
If you could make that happen al the FS1R users would be
cheering you from there rooftops.;)?
Also there are ofcourse other emulations like Rhodes and the
like wich could be tackled better...
Best wishes,
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 20:59 schreef
Thor Z:
OK Hans, I went and listened to Manny's first video on
his Piano patch... Holy Moly, Batman!? He's created eight
entirely different patches which are mixed together to get
his single Piano sound.? We don't have eight Parts in an
FS1R, we only have four.? It would take two FS1R's to
implement his Montage Piano patch.? Sorry.
All is not lost, though.? Manny is from the "add more and
more stuff until it sounds right" school of thought.? Most
people are this way, actually.? But wouldn't it be more
efficient if you targeted a Piano sound right out of the
box?? I think so.? I'm going to have to work on this
myself, to see what I can come up with.
He uses the term 'inharmonicity' wrong too, but that's
ok.? Only engineers and researchers actually know what it
really means.? But he should know better, I explained it
in detail in my paper on the VP1, which he read.? He made
a lot of red-line comments too, which I very carefully
corrected.? He knows a lot about the internal Yamaha
VL1/VP1 politics which I could only speculate on.? Anyway.
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van
den Tillaart wrote:
Hi Fred and
Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the
best for your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for
instrument emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best
Piano patch there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch
written bij Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would
be close...
You can find it here:
?
It would
certainly make my day if this patch could be translated
for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef
Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!?
There are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the
FS1R, I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you
can download off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in
the latter chapters on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM,
Saxfred wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a
huge amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Thor,
Thank you for the explanation. I see what you mean with the wider
apart harmonics. How would the FM aproach be with that? I thought it
would be simple detuning of modulators to get that effect or am i
wrong with this?
Hans
Op 24-6-2020 om 16:13 schreef Thor Z:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hi Hans,
Inharmonicity is technically an expanding fan of harmonics like
this:
See how the harmonic peaks get wider and wider apart as you go
higher and higher in frequency?? This one is really exaggerated,
off the Yamaha VP1.? The next one is from a Trombone, it's
pretty normal, no inharmonicity.
Both of these plots are for the same pitched note.?
Inharmonicity does not simply mean dissonant harmonics, it means
a specific arrangement of dissonant harmonics.? The term was
coined by researchers back in and 80's and popularized by Yamaha
back when they were working on the Yamaha VP1 in the 90's.? The
Piano is the prime example of inharmonicity in research papers.
Thor
On 6/24/2020 7:55 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
Hey Thor,
In the FS1R you can use the unvoiced operators with some
adjustments as voiced ones so wich make it 16 operators to work
with (from your paper). But i understand the limitations on that
route. With the inharmonicity you mean the effect of more
detuned operators going up the keyboard?
?Also it is possible to use software applications like DEXED ?
for further additional polishing the sound...
But the main focus is ofcourse to get the most of our beloved
FS1R.
If you could make that happen al the FS1R users would be
cheering you from there rooftops.;)?
Also there are ofcourse other emulations like Rhodes and the
like wich could be tackled better...
Best wishes,
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 20:59 schreef Thor
Z:
OK Hans, I went and listened to Manny's first video on his
Piano patch... Holy Moly, Batman!? He's created eight
entirely different patches which are mixed together to get
his single Piano sound.? We don't have eight Parts in an
FS1R, we only have four.? It would take two FS1R's to
implement his Montage Piano patch.? Sorry.
All is not lost, though.? Manny is from the "add more and
more stuff until it sounds right" school of thought.? Most
people are this way, actually.? But wouldn't it be more
efficient if you targeted a Piano sound right out of the
box?? I think so.? I'm going to have to work on this myself,
to see what I can come up with.
He uses the term 'inharmonicity' wrong too, but that's ok.?
Only engineers and researchers actually know what it really
means.? But he should know better, I explained it in detail
in my paper on the VP1, which he read.? He made a lot of
red-line comments too, which I very carefully corrected.? He
knows a lot about the internal Yamaha VL1/VP1 politics which
I could only speculate on.? Anyway.
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van
den Tillaart wrote:
Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the
best for your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for
instrument emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano
patch there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch
written bij Manny
Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would
be close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly
make my day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef
Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!?
There are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the
FS1R, I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you can
download off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in the
latter chapters on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred
wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a
huge amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Hans,
Inharmonicity is technically an expanding fan of harmonics like
this:
See how the harmonic peaks get wider and wider apart as you go
higher and higher in frequency?? This one is really exaggerated,
off the Yamaha VP1.? The next one is from a Trombone, it's pretty
normal, no inharmonicity.
Both of these plots are for the same pitched note.? Inharmonicity
does not simply mean dissonant harmonics, it means a specific
arrangement of dissonant harmonics.? The term was coined by
researchers back in and 80's and popularized by Yamaha back when
they were working on the Yamaha VP1 in the 90's.? The Piano is the
prime example of inharmonicity in research papers.
Thor
On 6/24/2020 7:55 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hey Thor,
In the FS1R you can use the unvoiced operators with some
adjustments as voiced ones so wich make it 16 operators to work
with (from your paper). But i understand the limitations on that
route. With the inharmonicity you mean the effect of more detuned
operators going up the keyboard?
?Also it is possible to use software applications like DEXED ?
for further additional polishing the sound...
But the main focus is ofcourse to get the most of our beloved
FS1R.
If you could make that happen al the FS1R users would be cheering
you from there rooftops.;)?
Also there are ofcourse other emulations like Rhodes and the like
wich could be tackled better...
Best wishes,
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 20:59 schreef Thor Z:
OK Hans, I went and listened to Manny's first video on his
Piano patch... Holy Moly, Batman!? He's created eight entirely
different patches which are mixed together to get his single
Piano sound.? We don't have eight Parts in an FS1R, we only
have four.? It would take two FS1R's to implement his Montage
Piano patch.? Sorry.
All is not lost, though.? Manny is from the "add more and
more stuff until it sounds right" school of thought.? Most
people are this way, actually.? But wouldn't it be more
efficient if you targeted a Piano sound right out of the box??
I think so.? I'm going to have to work on this myself, to see
what I can come up with.
He uses the term 'inharmonicity' wrong too, but that's ok.?
Only engineers and researchers actually know what it really
means.? But he should know better, I explained it in detail in
my paper on the VP1, which he read.? He made a lot of red-line
comments too, which I very carefully corrected.? He knows a
lot about the internal Yamaha VL1/VP1 politics which I could
only speculate on.? Anyway.
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the best
for your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for
instrument emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano
patch there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch written
bij Manny
Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would be
close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly
make my day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef
Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!?
There are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the
FS1R, I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you can
download off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in the
latter chapters on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred
wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a huge
amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
|
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hey Thor,
In the FS1R you can use the unvoiced operators with some adjustments
as voiced ones so wich make it 16 operators to work with (from your
paper). But i understand the limitations on that route. With the
inharmonicity you mean the effect of more detuned operators going up
the keyboard?
?Also it is possible to use software applications like DEXED ?
for further additional polishing the sound...
But the main focus is ofcourse to get the most of our beloved FS1R.
If you could make that happen al the FS1R users would be cheering
you from there rooftops.;)?
Also there are ofcourse other emulations like Rhodes and the like
wich could be tackled better...
Best wishes,
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 20:59 schreef Thor Z:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
OK Hans, I went and listened to Manny's first video on his
Piano patch... Holy Moly, Batman!? He's created eight entirely
different patches which are mixed together to get his single
Piano sound.? We don't have eight Parts in an FS1R, we only have
four.? It would take two FS1R's to implement his Montage Piano
patch.? Sorry.
All is not lost, though.? Manny is from the "add more and more
stuff until it sounds right" school of thought.? Most people are
this way, actually.? But wouldn't it be more efficient if you
targeted a Piano sound right out of the box?? I think so.? I'm
going to have to work on this myself, to see what I can come up
with.
He uses the term 'inharmonicity' wrong too, but that's ok.?
Only engineers and researchers actually know what it really
means.? But he should know better, I explained it in detail in
my paper on the VP1, which he read.? He made a lot of red-line
comments too, which I very carefully corrected.? He knows a lot
about the internal Yamaha VL1/VP1 politics which I could only
speculate on.? Anyway.
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the best
for your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for
instrument emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano
patch there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch written
bij Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would be
close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly
make my day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef Thor
Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!? There
are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the FS1R,
I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you can download
off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in the latter
chapters on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred
wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a huge
amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Guys
I agree with you Thor regarding Formant Shaping it is only on the FS1r and it is really great (I also like the FDSP only found on the Yamaha EX5/R)
What I think is great on the EssenceFM is the way it has been structured With the 300 voices of polyphony you can have (e.g. a mono patch using 300 layers so the Manny's Piano Sound could be achieve easily)
I am using almost all Wind Controllers (AKAI EWI serie, Aodyo Sylphyo, Roland Aerophone, I use to have WX7 and WX5 from Yamaha before they failed and I have ordered the new Berglund Instrument NuRAD just released. I try to play all my synths using wind Controller (including the Yamaha EX5R (). (sorry it is in French)
I am glad to talk to FS1R specialist I got mine recently second hand but in perfect condition
Many thanks
Regards Fred
De: "Thor Z" <thor276@...> ?: [email protected]贰苍惫辞测é: Mardi 23 Juin 2020 18:14:29 Objet: Re: [FS1R] Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Thanks Guys!
I've talked with Manny and I'm familiar with his Piano patch.? He
did the ones on the FS1R too.? I've been digging into the Yamaha
VP1 lately (yes I said the VP1, Manny has access to one right
now!) and I think there is a way to match the Piano even closer...
Inharmonicity is the key.? The harmonics of the Piano spread out
slightly as you go higher in frequency, and I think we can get
close to that on the FS1R.? You can only see the spread on a
spectrum analyzer if you measure the peaks and put them into a
spreadsheet, which I've done.? I think we can do a killer Piano
patch.? I haven't had time to try it yet, though.??? I'll see if I
can fit that in in the next few months.
Saxfred, I have a wind controller too, a BC3 on my Yamaha VL7.
The Kodamo Essence is really nice, but it just doesn't have
Formants... I really like Formants.? The Montage and MODX don't
have them either, which is odd.? They have the rest of the FS1R in
there, so why leave out the Formants?
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the best for
your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for instrument
emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano patch
there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch written bij
Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would be
close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly make
my day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!? There
are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the FS1R,
I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you can download
off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in the latter chapters
on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred
wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a huge
amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
OK Hans, I went and listened to Manny's first video on his Piano
patch... Holy Moly, Batman!? He's created eight entirely different
patches which are mixed together to get his single Piano sound.?
We don't have eight Parts in an FS1R, we only have four.? It would
take two FS1R's to implement his Montage Piano patch.? Sorry.
All is not lost, though.? Manny is from the "add more and more
stuff until it sounds right" school of thought.? Most people are
this way, actually.? But wouldn't it be more efficient if you
targeted a Piano sound right out of the box?? I think so.? I'm
going to have to work on this myself, to see what I can come up
with.
He uses the term 'inharmonicity' wrong too, but that's ok.? Only
engineers and researchers actually know what it really means.? But
he should know better, I explained it in detail in my paper on the
VP1, which he read.? He made a lot of red-line comments too, which
I very carefully corrected.? He knows a lot about the internal
Yamaha VL1/VP1 politics which I could only speculate on.? Anyway.
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
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Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the best for
your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for instrument
emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano patch
there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch written bij
Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would be
close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly make
my day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!? There
are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the FS1R,
I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you can download
off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in the latter chapters
on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred
wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a huge
amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
|
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Thanks Guys!
I've talked with Manny and I'm familiar with his Piano patch.? He
did the ones on the FS1R too.? I've been digging into the Yamaha
VP1 lately (yes I said the VP1, Manny has access to one right
now!) and I think there is a way to match the Piano even closer...
Inharmonicity is the key.? The harmonics of the Piano spread out
slightly as you go higher in frequency, and I think we can get
close to that on the FS1R.? You can only see the spread on a
spectrum analyzer if you measure the peaks and put them into a
spreadsheet, which I've done.? I think we can do a killer Piano
patch.? I haven't had time to try it yet, though.??? I'll see if I
can fit that in in the next few months.
Saxfred, I have a wind controller too, a BC3 on my Yamaha VL7.
The Kodamo Essence is really nice, but it just doesn't have
Formants... I really like Formants.? The Montage and MODX don't
have them either, which is odd.? They have the rest of the FS1R in
there, so why leave out the Formants?
Thor
On 6/23/2020 8:06 AM, Hans van den
Tillaart wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the best for
your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for instrument
emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano patch
there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch written bij
Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would be
close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly make
my day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!? There
are both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the FS1R,
I've written an FM-Programming Guide which you can download
off my website.? It goes into the FS1R in the latter chapters
on FM-X and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred
wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a huge
amount of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
|
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Re: Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Many thanks Hans for your feedback I got something to read for all summer now !!!!
I guess you both have seen the new FM module issued by with there EssenceFMlooks like it is more easy to program than the FS1r but I really love this synth. Thanks for your help
Take care Fred
De: "Hans van den Tillaart" <hansvandentillaart@...> ?: [email protected]贰苍惫辞测é: Mardi 23 Juin 2020 16:06:59 Objet: Re: [FS1R] Which Editor are you using to Edit de FS1R ?
Hi Fred and Thor!
Yes i use the same application as Thor does wich is the best for
your FS1R!
Thor has also the best FM tutorial on the planet for instrument
emulation! Great work!
I wonder if Thor has already tried to make the best Piano patch
there is for the FS1R?
For the Montage and like there is a very good patch written bij Manny Fernandez.
If we could translate that patch to FS1R then we would be
close...
You can find it here:
?
It would certainly make my
day if this patch could be translated for FS1R ;)
Greetings and good luck!
Hans van den Tillaart
Op 23-6-2020 om 15:22 schreef Thor Z:
Hi Fred,
I use the free K-Take FS1R editor.? It works great!? There are
both PC and Mac versions.
I've spent a lot of time learning how to program the FS1R, I've
written an FM-Programming Guide which you can download off my
website.? It goes into the FS1R in the latter chapters on FM-X
and Formants.?
Best Regards,? Thor
On 6/23/2020 2:17 AM, Saxfred wrote:
As you know the FS1r is a very powerful Synth with a huge amount
of parameters
Are you using any editor and if so which one ?
thanks for your feedback
REgards
Fred
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Saxfred