Hi

Now that there is support for multiple throttle connection protocols through the YD7001, I am trying to understand what we need to input into the WLANMaus to get it connected to the port on the YD7001 that is listening for the Z21 protocol.? On the DR5000 there was only one port and it only supported one protocol at a time, so there was no need to input a port number into the WLANMaus settings.

I have the YD7001 connected via the LAN port to a router.? Connecting wirelessly to the router is easy - enter SSDI and password into the WLANMaus?settings.? Next logical step would be to input the IP address of the YD7001 into the WLANMaus settings - I believe I have done this correctly using the information from the YD7001 app on a connected windows computer.? However, I do not know where in the WLANMaus settings to enter the port number that is listening for the Z21 protocol message stream - I can see what is is from the YD7001 windows app, but I do not know where to enter this information into the WLANMaus??settings.

If the port number does not need to be entered, that would suggest that the the WLANMaus is assuming a standard port number.? Does anyone know what that port number is so I can check that it is set correctly in the YD7001 by looking at the app screens?

Thanks for you assistance.

Jay Lennox - Toronto

On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 02:18 PM, <juanky0307@...> wrote:

What I would like to know is if it is possible for the bridge to go, for example, from position 1 (23) to 5 (41) in an anti-clockwise direction, now it does so in a clockwise direction.

You might want to try the M?rklin protocol instead of the default Fleischmann protocol. That uses another turning-paradigma. Try left and/or right clicking an outlet then.?

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I have an interest in this too. It is a shame this orphaned product failed in the market and I was hoping for a second unit....

Well... it only "failed" due to the incompetence of Digikeijs and/or it's Support Engineers.... The demand was and is pretty high. In grand total more than 1200 units found their way to modellers... And I can tell you there are still some perfectly good PCBs available ;) :P? But... YaMoRC will bring it's YD7652 somewhere Q1 2024. :)

In the dim and dark? past, about 2005-7, I was trying to design a turntable controller for the Fleishmann 9152C using an 8051 type chip and it is quite hard to position the bridge according to the outlet tracks. The main problem I believe are sensing where the bridge is located and Digikeijs did go some way to address this problem with its accessories.

Well, Digikeijs would mean me in this case ;) The sensor part (DR5052-Plus) was optional and provides accurate turning without the usual "click-clack".

Another problem I encountered was the rotational speed of the bridge, which without track position sensors, is a somewhat arbitrary function. Knowing what times to pick and drop the track positioning detent relies on the bridge accurately turning to the requisite angle.

That would have been the wrong approach then. I also started off in that direction, but found it undoable. The current implementation "counts" the latch activations and keeps track of the position in that way. That is pretty accurate when the mechanics of the turntable are good and well adjusted.

I also wanted to select outlet track power/polarity when the bridge reached the desired location.?

That is the least of problems, if you specify a polarity for each outlet. When stopping turning, just set a DPDT relay to get the appropriate polarity

Maybe there is a simple sensor device to fit the the outlet track that could be programmed with an ID of 1 to 48 for each track used?

It is, see the above (DR5052-Plus)

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Summing up, I have found sophisticated turntable controllers are not easy!

There you are damn right :)

Greets,

Karst

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Good evening, in my case the module works correctly, the bridge is positioned in each of the selected positions correctly. What I would like to know is if it is possible for the bridge to go, for example, from position 1 (23) to 5 (41) in an anti-clockwise direction, now it does so in a clockwise direction.

I had a similar problem with using the CML TC1 turntable controller initially and on speaking to the designer the Fleischmann protocol is quite complicated and restrictive.? The protocol expects a base address of 200 and isn't happy with anything else.

I would add that the TC1 works perfectly with the Fleischmann turntable and is now sold by Signatrak, the manual for it goes into deep analysis of the protocol and its idiosyncrasies so might be a useful read.

Apogies if this gets posted twice the first effort suddenly disappeared and not sure whether it posted.
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I have an interest in this too. It is a shame this orphaned product failed in the market and I was hoping for a second unit....

In the dim and dark? past, about 2005-7, I was trying to design a turntable controller for the Fleishmann 9152C using an 8051 type chip and it is quite hard to position the bridge according to the outlet tracks. The main problem I believe are sensing where the bridge is located and Digikeijs did go some way to address this problem with its accessories. Another problem I encountered was the rotational speed of the bridge, which without track position sensors, is a somewhat arbitrary function. Knowing what times to pick and drop the track positioning detent relies on the bridge accurately turning to the requisite angle. I also wanted to select outlet track power/polarity when the bridge reached the desired location. I eventually gave up on that project and switched to Rocrail's implementation of their turntable module even though it didn't work properly for me. Again knowing where the bridge is without track sensors with a track ID is the main problem. Well that's my experience anyway. For the time being I have put my model railways on hold so what I have said is not recent!

Maybe there is a simple sensor device to fit the the outlet track that could be programmed with an ID of 1 to 48 for each track used?

Summing up, I have found sophisticated turntable controllers are not easy!

Tony Pemberton

Good morning, attached.

Can you post a screenshout from your "turning" screen ??

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This one I mean:

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Good afternoon, it would be possible to program the DR5052 module so that it goes from one position to another instead of the shortest distance, it does so for the longest distance. I have defined 5 positions, 23, 24, 25, 33 and 41. An example, I want it to go from position 23 to 41 instead of clockwise, shorter, counterclockwise, longer, that would make the side of the platform that does not have the booth is positioned in position 41 and not the side of the platform that has the booth.

The 4-limit is BBus only ?

Iain

I have tried 12V DC with a transformer of 5A but it still doesn't work. Somewhere I have a variable switched transformer capable of 12V to about 18V if I can find it I will give it a try but probably going to be a YD8008 as least painful solution.

I have some MTB MP1 motors which work fine under the board but they don't really work surface mounted in this case,

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Thanks Andy, I will give these a try and see what happens but I will bear your comments in mind. I did look for an alternative surface mount but didn't see the Rails connect ones, I will take a look for future reference.
Robin?

Thanks Iain and Karst, I have preset to 0 but using the DR5000 as power source which doesn't work. I have a 12V 5A power supply in my don't throw it away it might come in useful box so will give it a try, better than buying a second controller. If it gives me problems I will go for the YD8008.

Robin

I used the PL11 motors in my fiddle yard but they were just too unreliable, it’s not the 4018, I have 3 of them and they all work fine, I ended up swapping the Pl11s for the surface mount motors offered by Rails of sheffield under their Rails connect brand, they’re made in conjunction with DCC concepts and are miles better than the pl11s, the only thing I had to do was get a friend with a 3d printer to make some spacers to fit the throwing arm hole as it’s one size fits all, so that makes it too big for Peco N gauge points. ?Hope this helps

Andy

You mention you have 7 DR5033 boosters linked to your command station presumably with LNet B

There is I believe a limit of 4 in the documentation? Or is that limit with the Z21 through Bbus?

My reading of the DR5033 documentation says there is a limit of 4 boosters when using B-Bus but doesn't give a limitation when used on the Loconet B. Maybe I missed it.
I really hope it doesn't exist, because I also have 7 DR5033 boosters with my YD7001. I've only just modified the DR5000 so I haven't hooked it all up yet.
Any update on this point?

Regards,
OldnGrey.

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On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 04:20 AM, RobinP wrote:

It looks like the YD8008 is a suitable replacement but before I get my card out can anyone confirm it will work with the PL-11 motors?

Well, they (YD8008) are a.o. specially designed for the PECO motors :) No need to mention that they have been extensively tested with the PL-11's

Best results are obtained, by supplying the YD8008 with 15-19V DC from a 500mA wallwart powersupply. However feeding them directly from the DCC bus is also a very good option. Since they only draw aroud 400mA for about 0.8 seconds to charge the CDU ( that is 0.5 - 0.8 seconds after each switching )

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?but it will need configuring to Preset 0, ideally using a separate power supply which is 12v 3A DC.

That is exactly what is the weak point of the DR4018. The need fore these kind of humongous powersupplies....

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Greets,

Karst

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