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Re: Kato Turnouts and YD8008s

 

What CV47 number do you have set on the DR4018 or DK50018?
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Kato Turnouts and YD8008s

 

We used the Digikiejs DR5000 and DK50018s along with the DR4101s to operate an N Scale layout with Kato track and turnouts. ?They operated well, but the switches had a humming sound when track power was applied.
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We would like to use the YD7010 with the YD8008 Solenoid Switch Decoders and the YD6940s to hookup a new layout using Kato track. ?

Has anyone tried this setup and if so, do the new Solenoid decoders stop the humming?
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Thanks,
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Hubert
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Re: YaMoRC-Digikeijis Network Detection

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 07:04 PM, karst.drenth wrote:
Thanks Karst. I'll get to work!.


Re: YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 01:42 AM, papadelta wrote:
Do you think the YD8116 could drive two MP10s on a crossover from the same output?
Yes it can. The MP's are really low current consumers.

Greets,
Karst


Re: YaMoRC-Digikeijis Network Detection

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 04:45 AM, Roy Endersby wrote:

Z21 Loconet to DR4088LN <---- 6m-----> DR4088CS <-----0.5m---->DR4088CS <----3m--->YD6016CS

<----4m---->DR4088CS <----5m------> YD6016CS Total Cable length 18.5m

Waaayyyy too long !! 3m advised, 5m max. from DR4088LN until last s88N module.

I¡¯m using Cat 7 RJ45 Flat Cables between the CS¡¯s

UTP is better. Flatcable is not twisted, for which s88N has been designed

I needed to add a couple more YD6016CS, but on seeking advice I was told that the max length in total between all units was 3m, as you can see I¡¯m exceeding the by quite a bit.

Yep, see above.

So does the layout work, well yes, I only have a few false positives nothing that I was concerned about until now!.

You should have, because it is inherent to such cable-lengths ;)

I¡¯m planning to add a YD6016LN and split the network up into smaller legs something on these lines

Z21

Leg 1 LN to DR4088LN <----0.5m----> DR4088CS <---6.0m---> DR4088CS <---0.5m --> DR4088CS

Total Cable length 7m

Marginal, but considering you already ran 18.5m without significant problems, will probably work.

Leg 2 LN to YD6016LN <-----4m----> YD6016CS <----0.5m--->YD6016CS <----1m---> YD6016CS

Total Cable length 5.5m

Very well ! This could very well work in your situation. It almost adheres to the specs ;)


Remarks:

1) It's YD6016ES-CS, not YD6016CS, and it's YD6016LN-CS ;) CS is the Sensor-Type, ES/LN is the Bus-Type :)

2) we advise: Need "long" distance ( > 3m ) ? Use LocoNet. Below 3m s88N is perfectly safe. Why ? LN is designed for long cable runs. s88N is not. Although the use of RJ45 Network-Cable might suggest this.

Greets,
Karst


YaMoRC-Digikeijis Network Detection

 

Hello

I¡¯m looking for a bit of advice. I plan to extend my Loco detection on iTrain. I¡¯m currently using a Black Z21 connected to 6 devices in the following configuration, these are obviously spread around the layout at point of concentration to avoid long cable runs

Z21 Loconet to DR4088LN <---- 6m-----> DR4088CS <-----0.5m---->DR4088CS <----3m--->YD6016CS

<----4m---->DR4088CS <----5m------> YD6016CS Total Cable length 18.5m

I¡¯m using Cat 7 RJ45 Flat Cables between the CS¡¯s

I needed to add a couple more YD6016CS, but on seeking advice I was told that the max length in total between all units was 3m, as you can see I¡¯m exceeding the by quite a bit. So does the layout work, well yes, I only have a few false positives nothing that I was concerned about until now!.

I¡¯m planning to add a YD6016LN and split the network up into smaller legs something on these lines

Z21

Leg 1 LN to DR4088LN <----0.5m----> DR4088CS <---6.0m---> DR4088CS <---0.5m --> DR4088CS

Total Cable length 7m

Leg 2 LN to YD6016LN <-----4m----> YD6016CS <----0.5m--->YD6016CS <----1m---> YD6016CS

Total Cable length 5.5m

Would this work ?


Re: YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

 

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Yes, but I suggest you should use an external power supply to the YD8116

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of papadelta via groups.io
Sent: 23 October 2024 09:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

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Thank you Iain for your advice.

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Do you think the YD8116 could drive two MP10s on a crossover from the same output?

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Regards

Philip


Re: YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

 

Thank you Iain for your advice.
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Do you think the YD8116 could drive two MP10s on a crossover from the same output?
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Regards
Philip


Re: YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

 

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Philip

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The MP6 is like the rest of the MPx range and you put a constant feed into the terminals, the cams inside the motor cut off the power when it has reached the limit. The MP10 Tortoise replacement is the unusual one because you can also drive that by changing the polarity.

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Iain Morrison

07767 456746

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of papadelta via groups.io
Sent: 21 October 2024 15:40
To: [email protected]
Subject: YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

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Hi

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I am building my new layout using Yamorc decoders and MTB turnout motors.

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I have successfully set up a YD8116 to control a MP10 motor, using the standard simple definition for turnouts (device id 3 or 4)

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I also have some MP6 motors that only need a short pulse (1 sec) to drive them, as they are permanently powered.? Can the YD8116 be configured to control the MP6?

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I see that the standard simple configuration for a point motor has a switch to "limit on time of outputs".? I cannot see anywhere to specify this time.? Could I set it to just 1 sec to create a pulse to throw the MP6?

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Any advice, would be much appreciate.

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Regards

Philip


YD8116 control of MTB turnout motors

 

Hi
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I am building my new layout using Yamorc decoders and MTB turnout motors.
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I have successfully set up a YD8116 to control a MP10 motor, using the standard simple definition for turnouts (device id 3 or 4)
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I also have some MP6 motors that only need a short pulse (1 sec) to drive them, as they are permanently powered.? Can the YD8116 be configured to control the MP6?
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I see that the standard simple configuration for a point motor has a switch to "limit on time of outputs".? I cannot see anywhere to specify this time.? Could I set it to just 1 sec to create a pulse to throw the MP6?
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Any advice, would be much appreciate.
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Regards
Philip


Re: YD7001 O GAUGE

 

Colin,

At this German Forum, there are people using the YD7010 for 0-gauge.

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Note that they use 6 Amp boosters to do the operation.

But if you have your Locos consume less than 3 Amp in total, you would be fine with YD's internal Booster.

Greets,
Karst


Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

Mario
 

Ok, I'll give it a try.
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Thank you so much.
Mario


Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

 

Do a continuity test between the supply ground and both outputs, if there is none it should be ok.
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Mike


Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

Mario
 

So it's no good?
Do I have to look for one that has that double insulation?
Thank you very much.
Mario
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Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

 

If you live in Europe the output should isolated from the input ground, not all SMPSs are. If it had the double insulated symbol (square in square) then it definitely would be.
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Mike


YD7001 O GAUGE

 

Good afternoon everyone, just wondering if anyone has had any experience operating and programming O gauge loco's and decoder's using the YaMoRC system??


Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

Mario
 

I have added the picture of the SMPS I am using.
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Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

Mario
 
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I think I have succeeded. I have used the diodes in antiparallel and lowered the output voltage.
Best regards,
Mario
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Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

Mario
 

Good morning.
The one I am using is the one in the photo.
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But I'm thinking of using the one in the first photo which is 19 volts and using some antiparallel capacitors to lower the voltage.
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But I'm thinking of using the one in the first picture which are 19 volts and using some diodes in antiparallel to lower the voltage. Each pair of diodes drops 0.7v and what I would do would be to put 4 diodes in antiparallel which would drop 1.4v. That would be within the voltage range.
Do you see it right?
Thank you very much for your help and I apologize for my english, I am using a translator.
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Mario
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Re: Voltage of a transformer for HO

 

I found this on EBay and have bought several of these.
They are well built and has the correct size connector.
Would like to see more safety agency approvals.
Comes with the power cord also.
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Dennis Cherry
Owner/Moderator