----- Original Message -----

From: Hazel Clarke

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:19 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

That's the only time I've seen the word "nadgery" outside of Max King's book I've been reading recently.? It's a lovely sounding word but what exactly does it mean?

?

Haze

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jonhaddock@...

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

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Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite heavy too...

Laura: The best of all those 250's was the Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced. Daniel

----- Original Message -----

From: Laura

To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold of?

Laura

On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com> wrote:

Laura, Honda CRs are two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and the XLs are 4 strokes.

The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com >
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59 +0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net> wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find I can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:* W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding position),
>>well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> > approximately
>> > where the seat would have been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well but
>> > are
>> > stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are more
>> > softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>> > These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> > duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>> > bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>> > 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>> > 'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes still had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often just
>> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> > are
>> > not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being
>> > macho
>> > men we used 'em anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have less
>> > suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> > some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports are
>> > found.
>> > They were popular amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what
>> > they
>> > were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and
>> > so
>> > on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the
>>XR250
>> >
>> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> > incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>> > superb
>> > handling stability because they are built to win races on bumpy rough
>> > ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> > with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the
>> > weeds.
>> >
>> > They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a real armchair riding position.
>> >
>> > Very high credibility too......
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> > >>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's some trials riding:
>> > >
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----- Original Message -----

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To: W650riders@...

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:10 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

?

Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite heavy too...

Laura: The best of all those 250's was the Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced. Daniel

----- Original Message -----

From: Laura

To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN

Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold of?

Laura

On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com> wrote:

Laura, Honda CRs are two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and the XLs are 4 strokes.

The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)





>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com >
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59 +0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net> wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find I can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:* W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding position),
>>well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> > approximately
>> > where the seat would have been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well but
>> > are
>> > stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are more
>> > softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>> > These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> > duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>> > bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>> > 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>> > 'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes still had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often just
>> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> > are
>> > not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being
>> > macho
>> > men we used 'em anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have less
>> > suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> > some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports are
>> > found.
>> > They were popular amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what
>> > they
>> > were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and
>> > so
>> > on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the
>>XR250
>> >
>> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> > incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>> > superb
>> > handling stability because they are built to win races on bumpy rough
>> > ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> > with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into the
>> > weeds.
>> >
>> > They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a real armchair riding position.
>> >
>> > Very high credibility too......
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> > >>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's some trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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-----Original Message-----
From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On
Behalf Of James Franklin
Sent: 01 July 2007 16:34
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
AGAIN

Laura, Honda CRs are two strokes and they are high performance
racable..the
XRs and the XLs are 4 strokes.

The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa
250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.



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Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)

From: Laura <laurauk.rider@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
AGAIN
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59 +0100

OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the idea. Are

they

cheap could I have them as second bike?
KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to have his

food

reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we think).
Laura


On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...> wrote:

Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's

are

OK. I find I can manage those well with my 27" inside leg, but I

can't

ride
the KTM's for instance.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@...>
*To:* W650riders@...
*Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS

STRIKES

AGAIN

I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding

position),

well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are

mostly

high
aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.

Laura


On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...
<jonhaddock@...+>> wrote:

That is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke

singles,

tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They

are

very

low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
approximately
where the seat would have been.

Other off-road sports are:

Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like trials,

have no

lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really

well but

are
stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect

seat

heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross

bikes

with

road front wheels on.

Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are

more

softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have

lighting

sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make literally

stunning

commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard

indeed

to

find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for general urban
duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your

Harley...and

30

bhp
in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha

465

with
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph.

A lot

of
Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are

Roads...i.e.

'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In

other

words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes still

had

to

be
fully road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often

just

muddy
tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro

bikes

are
not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But

being

macho
men we used 'em anyway!

Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have

less

suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You

used to

find
some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports

are

found.
They were popular amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew

what

they
were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki

Sherpa and

so
on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the

XR250

Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.

All off-road bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to

have

superb
handling stability because they are built to win races on bumpy

rough

ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or

enduro

bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into

the

weeds.

They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly

good

suspension make for a real armchair riding position.

Very high credibility too......

Jon

From: Laura

Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
the grass at the rally next weekend.

Laura, here's some trials riding:




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I think I'd have to pull the original phone line out, and fish thru the phone and cable lines at the same time.

This appears to be schedule 5 plastic conduit, very thin wall, and I'll bet has no elbows or sweeps in the run, merely bent to fit the run. That's ok, no obstructions with threaded fittings to hang up on.

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There's almost certainly a pull-through sitting in the conduit...perhaps they wouldn't notice as long as you didn't break the phone line!

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There's almost certainly a pull-through sitting in the conduit...perhaps they wouldn't notice as long as you didn't break the phone line!

.

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From: Dennis J. Guggemos

?

Um, Gene would probably do better as my co-observer, I don't want to do his back any harm, I'd like to go riding with him again sometime.

?

Dennis

?

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From: Captain Jake

Hey, I know a guy in Oregon that'd probably love to volunteer to help, ol' DitchFitch we calls 'im....

Helpful Jake

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From: Dennis J. Guggemos

Yeah, now to find a strapping young man to dig the ditch...

?

?

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From: Jonhaddock@onetel.net

I think the cable option is definitely the best route....There are a lot of extra clever features as well, like movies on demand and so on...

?

Jon

.

And balance the wheels?

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "pete7953" <peter.sluman@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Couple of newbie questions.

Jon, that sounds exactly like my shimmy. It is only noticeable when
you take your hands off the bars and goes away when you put them back
on. If however you continue with the 'no hands' style of riding, it
gets a lot worse. I've just had an avon roadrider put on the back
wheel and have now arranged for the matching front to be fitted next,
so we'll see how we get on with 2 new tyres. I know there is usually
no need to ride no hands, but there are times when you have to use
just one and I would like to have the confidence that the bike won't
throw a wobbly.

Thanks,

Pete

--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
wrote:

The shimmy is common to many bikes and is cured by a small amount

of

friction. The best place to find it is in the front tyre contact

patch...The

stock front wears badly and the contact patch almost shrinks to

nothing. A

decent single compound ( i.e. not a stock Accolade) tyre transforms

the bike

and pretty much sorts the shimmy. I used an Avon Venom .

You should only notice the shimmy if you take your hands off and

just a

light touch restores equilibrium.

If it still persists enough to annoy, buy a steering damper...That

shimmy is

what they are built for!

Jon

Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple of

issues

have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.

Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've

got

both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,

there is

a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it

mught

have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made

no

difference.

Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of

the ride.

Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?

Thanks

Pete



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From: Jonhaddock@...

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:55 AM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question

?

Dennis...You finally have an excuse to hire a Bobcat!

Yeah, now to find a strapping young man to dig the ditch...

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Captain Jake

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:55 PM

Subject: Re: [W650riders] NWC: Satellite Internet Access Question

Hey, I know a guy in Oregon that'd probably love to volunteer to help, ol' DitchFitch we calls 'im....

?

Helpful Jake

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis J. Guggemos

Yeah, now to find a strapping young man to dig the ditch...

?

?

----- Original Message -----

From: Jonhaddock@onetel.net

I think the cable option is definitely the best route....There are a lot of extra clever features as well, like movies on demand and so on...

?

Jon

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Donovan Wilson

To: W650riders@...

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:21 AM

Subject: [W650riders] Vulcan 900

?The w is gone . We shared 58,000 kms . Most were 2 up . I am really gonna miss that bike .
?I wasn,t a big contributer to the list but I did read most of the posts and learned a lot. I wish to thank all the posters and moderators for there efforts .
? PS I promise not to ask any W650 rider the question . What year is your Triumph ? ?
? I also ask John not to dis the Vulcan or Mr.Spock.
?Thx Donovan Wilson
?????? Brantford? Canada
??????
?????? Happy Canada Day

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Jon, that sounds exactly like my shimmy. It is only noticeable when
you take your hands off the bars and goes away when you put them back
on. If however you continue with the 'no hands' style of riding, it
gets a lot worse. I've just had an avon roadrider put on the back
wheel and have now arranged for the matching front to be fitted next,
so we'll see how we get on with 2 new tyres. I know there is usually
no need to ride no hands, but there are times when you have to use
just one and I would like to have the confidence that the bike won't
throw a wobbly.

Thanks,

Pete

--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
wrote:

The shimmy is common to many bikes and is cured by a small amount

of

friction. The best place to find it is in the front tyre contact

patch...The

stock front wears badly and the contact patch almost shrinks to

nothing. A

decent single compound ( i.e. not a stock Accolade) tyre transforms

the bike

and pretty much sorts the shimmy. I used an Avon Venom .

You should only notice the shimmy if you take your hands off and

just a

light touch restores equilibrium.

If it still persists enough to annoy, buy a steering damper...That

shimmy is

what they are built for!

Jon

Hello everyone, just got my W650 a few weeks ago and a couple of

issues

have arisen. probably been dealt with before but who knows.

Handlebar Shake: when throttling back from 50+ or so mph, the
handlebars give a wobble/shake at between 45-50mph, ok if you've

got

both hand on the handlebars, but if for some reason you don't,

there is

a noticeable shimmy until the speed drops to 40-45mph. Thought it

mught

have been down to a worn (very) rear tyre, but a new one has made

no

difference.

Momentary cough: sometimes, the engine gives a 'cough'. It alwaqys
recovers instantly and then won't happen again for the rest of

the ride.

Any suggestions for these issues, or are they all like it?

Thanks

Pete



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