Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK and not
many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR at fast
stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite heavy
too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the Honda
NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a pic of my
NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced.
Daniel
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what would be
I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for town/commuting.
I do fancy one of those, riding position seems comfortable. But you know I
go through phases so please don't take it that I will go and buy one
tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again as women do!! Haven't even sat
one. Are they easy to get hold of?
Laura, Honda CRs are two
strokes and they are high performance racable..the XRs and the XLs are
4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and the
Kawasaki Sherpa 250 are all electric start 4 strokes with seat heights
at 30 inches or less unladen.
James Franklin 2411
Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
> >Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com >To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com >Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100 > >OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like
the idea. Are they >cheap could I have them as second
bike? >KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to
have his food >reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we
think). >Laura > > >On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote: >> >>??Yes, they ARE high, some higher
than others, but the Honda XR 250's are >>OK. I find I can manage
those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride >>the KTM's for
instance. >> >>----- Original Message
----- >>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com> >>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com >>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM >>*Subject:* Re: [W650riders]
:WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN >> >>I've sort of been interested in
them as they look comfy (riding position), >>well the ones I saw
but don't know what they were. But they are mostly >>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful. >> >>Laura >> >> >>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net < jonhaddock@onetel.net >>net+>>
wrote: >> > >> > >> > That is modern
trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles, >> > >> > tuned for instant
wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are >>very >> > low >> > geared and have
absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area >> >
approximately >> > where the seat would have been. >>
> >> > Other off-road sports are: >>
> >> > Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and
like trials, have no >> > lights and are not road legal. MX
bikes actually handle really well but >> > are >>
> stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect
seat >> > heights >> > in excess of 960mm. Proper
Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes >>with >> >
road front wheels on. >> > >> > Enduro...Where the
bikes are very similar to motocross but are more >> >
softly >> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use,
and have lighting >> > sets. >> > These bikes are
usually road legal in the UK and make literally >>stunning
>> > commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try
very hard indeed >>to >> > find a better bike than a
late model Honda XR250 for general urban >> >
duties. >> > They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under
half your Harley...and >>30 >> > bhp >>
> in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha
465 >> > with >> > 42 bhp would shut down any
musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A lot >> >
of >> > Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes
are Roads...i.e. >> > 'Rights of way open to all traffic'
which were not tarmac. In other >> > words, >> >
forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes still
had >>to >> > be >> > fully road legal
and obey national speed limits. They are often just >> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on
Enduro bikes >> > are >> > not designed for such
tricky and challenging narrow paths....But being >> >
macho >> > men we used 'em anyway! >>
> >> > Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust.
They have less >> > suspension travel, less power and are
often more civilised. You used to >> > find >> >
some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports
are >> > found. >> > They were popular amongst
older trail riders ( the ones who knew what >> >
they >> > were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the
Kawasaki Sherpa and >> > so >> > on, but older
bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the >>XR250
>> > >> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross
into both camps. >> > >> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with >> > incredibly
light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have >>
> superb >> > handling stability because they are built to
win races on bumpy rough >> > ground >> > and as a
consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro >>
> bike >> > with road oriented tyres on usually blows
'proper' road bikes into the >> > weeds. >>
> >> > They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats
and amazingly good >> > suspension make for a real armchair
riding position. >> > >> > Very high credibility
too...... >> > >> > Jon >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> >
> From: Laura >> > >>Trials? Is that motocross?
exciting. I like the idea of riding >> > >>in the woods,
think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on >> >
>>the grass at the rally next weekend. >> >
> >> > > Laura, here's some trials riding: >>
> > >> > > >>
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