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Re: lan feature !!!

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi Bob

Woops you need only run AGW on the packet machine it is not needed on the
remote machine.

As far as I know you need agw see below for the extract from changes 216.txt


As for setting up an IP adress do start -> settings -> control panel ->
network
Then look for TCP/IP > do properties on the IP adress tab do specify ip
adress and pick something at random such as 33.33.33.01 this is now your IP
adress and for god's sake do this only on your packet machine not your
internet machine otherwise you will run into problems with your internet
machine.

Hope that helps.
===
(V2.16)
20. AGW host mode now supports the Packet Engine tcp/ip interface.
Previously it only supported the DDE interface. If the Packet Engine
and UI-View are running on the same PC (the normal situation), there
is no advantage to using the tcp/ip interface. However, it enables you
to have AGWPE running on a different PC to UI-View. PLEASE read the
"AGWPE Setup" section of the help, and PLEASE TAKE NOTE of the
requirements. In particular, you MUST have version 2000.13, dated 29th
December 1999, or later of the Packet Engine, because all previous
versions lacked support on the tcp/ip interface for a feature used by
UI-View. NOTE - there was an earlier version 2000.13 that didn't have
support for the required feature.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <g7paf@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ui-view] lan feature !!!


From: "Bob" <g7paf@...>

heres the crunch !!!
i dont find anywere in the docs that says i need to run agw !!!!
also how do i get the ip address
like i said it would help if it was a bit simplified (the explanation on
how
to set it up)
i have been trying for another hour or so this morning and still no joy
Regards
Bob Scaife
g7paf@...
ax25 g7paf@gb7jem.#19.gbr.eu
icq 17945619

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Pritchard <apritch@...>
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Date: 31 December 1999 14:37
Subject: Re: [ui-view] lan feature !!!


From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi Bob

First make sure your network works using windows so you can access files
on
the other computer.

Then install AGW (new version) on both machines
On the packet machine make sure winsock interface is ticked

run ui-view on the packet machine and make sure it works with agw.
run ui-view on the remote machine and setup the host to agw and clck on
setup and enter the IP address on the packet machine.

Once this is done you get UI-View on the remote machine operating exactly
as
if it was on the packet machine. Nice one Roger!

====
If you wish to setup it up so as to connect to the internet from your
packet
machine then you need to get hold of wingate and install it on your
internet
machine.

Good Luck- Andy, G7OCW

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <g7paf@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:39 AM
Subject: [ui-view] lan feature !!!


well I have sat here for the past 3 hours and tried to get my packet
machine to work with my internet machine over the LAN
being a newbie to LAN I still need to do a bit of soul searching.

I have read the docs and still it eludes me
what exactly do I need to do ????

can someone enlighten me in layman's terms
I have for my internet machine a p133 with a pci network card running
into
a 5 port hub
for packet I have a p300 with the same type of network card running
into
the same hub
UI-view 2.16 is loaded onto both machines

I have seen the lights on the hub flashing (port 1 and 2) which leads
me
to believe that I am most of the way there but I am missing that vital
ingredient !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ho hum

BTW Roger thanks for the f8 key on disabling the GPS makes driving a
lot
easier now that I can switch to another application while on the move


Regards
Bob Scaife using ui-view 2.16 reg
g7paf@...
ax25 g7paf@gb7jem.#19.gbr.eu
icq 17945619



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Re: lan feature !!!

Bob
 

heres the crunch !!!
i dont find anywere in the docs that says i need to run agw !!!!
also how do i get the ip address
like i said it would help if it was a bit simplified (the explanation on how
to set it up)
i have been trying for another hour or so this morning and still no joy
Regards
Bob Scaife
g7paf@...
ax25 g7paf@gb7jem.#19.gbr.eu
icq 17945619

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Pritchard <apritch@...>
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Date: 31 December 1999 14:37
Subject: Re: [ui-view] lan feature !!!


From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi Bob

First make sure your network works using windows so you can access files on
the other computer.

Then install AGW (new version) on both machines
On the packet machine make sure winsock interface is ticked

run ui-view on the packet machine and make sure it works with agw.
run ui-view on the remote machine and setup the host to agw and clck on
setup and enter the IP address on the packet machine.

Once this is done you get UI-View on the remote machine operating exactly
as
if it was on the packet machine. Nice one Roger!

====
If you wish to setup it up so as to connect to the internet from your
packet
machine then you need to get hold of wingate and install it on your
internet
machine.

Good Luck- Andy, G7OCW

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <g7paf@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:39 AM
Subject: [ui-view] lan feature !!!


well I have sat here for the past 3 hours and tried to get my packet
machine to work with my internet machine over the LAN
being a newbie to LAN I still need to do a bit of soul searching.

I have read the docs and still it eludes me
what exactly do I need to do ????

can someone enlighten me in layman's terms
I have for my internet machine a p133 with a pci network card running
into
a 5 port hub
for packet I have a p300 with the same type of network card running into
the same hub
UI-view 2.16 is loaded onto both machines

I have seen the lights on the hub flashing (port 1 and 2) which leads me
to believe that I am most of the way there but I am missing that vital
ingredient !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ho hum

BTW Roger thanks for the f8 key on disabling the GPS makes driving a lot
easier now that I can switch to another application while on the move


Regards
Bob Scaife using ui-view 2.16 reg
g7paf@...
ax25 g7paf@gb7jem.#19.gbr.eu
icq 17945619



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Re: lan feature !!!

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi Bob

First make sure your network works using windows so you can access files on
the other computer.

Then install AGW (new version) on both machines
On the packet machine make sure winsock interface is ticked

run ui-view on the packet machine and make sure it works with agw.
run ui-view on the remote machine and setup the host to agw and clck on
setup and enter the IP address on the packet machine.

Once this is done you get UI-View on the remote machine operating exactly as
if it was on the packet machine. Nice one Roger!

====
If you wish to setup it up so as to connect to the internet from your packet
machine then you need to get hold of wingate and install it on your internet
machine.

Good Luck- Andy, G7OCW

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <g7paf@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:39 AM
Subject: [ui-view] lan feature !!!


well I have sat here for the past 3 hours and tried to get my packet
machine to work with my internet machine over the LAN
being a newbie to LAN I still need to do a bit of soul searching.

I have read the docs and still it eludes me
what exactly do I need to do ????

can someone enlighten me in layman's terms
I have for my internet machine a p133 with a pci network card running into
a 5 port hub
for packet I have a p300 with the same type of network card running into
the same hub
UI-view 2.16 is loaded onto both machines

I have seen the lights on the hub flashing (port 1 and 2) which leads me
to believe that I am most of the way there but I am missing that vital
ingredient !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ho hum

BTW Roger thanks for the f8 key on disabling the GPS makes driving a lot
easier now that I can switch to another application while on the move


Regards
Bob Scaife using ui-view 2.16 reg
g7paf@...
ax25 g7paf@gb7jem.#19.gbr.eu
icq 17945619



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Re: smile it's y2k nearly

 

In a message dated 31/12/1999 11:26:22 GMT Standard Time, feek@...
writes:

<< Strangely enough, the "bouy" is in fact genuinely the smallest country in
the world.

The Principality of Sealand.
>>
Yes, Thanks for that Kieth. I realized that after checking it out. It is the
site of an old marine defence fort I believe similar to the ones used by some
of the 1960's pirates. Nice to see it on the map!

Watch out for those aliens!

73, Simon g7guo


Re: smile it's y2k nearly

Keith Maton
 

Strangely enough, the "bouy" is in fact genuinely the smallest country in
the world.

The Principality of Sealand.



Keith.
--
Keith Maton, G6NHU
Hub Captain, Noble Air London Heathrow Hub
feek@...
ICQ: 1776683

-----Original Message-----
From: G7GUO@... [mailto:G7GUO@...]
Sent: 31 December 1999 10:50
To: ui-view@...
Subject: Re: [ui-view] smile it's y2k nearly


From: G7GUO@...

I have seen some funny things on my screen since I started
running UI-VIEW. I
saw a buoy just off the Essex coast describing itself as the
smallest country
in the world. I have seen a horse. Last night I saw a lost rover!
I presume
this was a joke about a lost dog.I suppose tomorow we might see landing
aliens for the new millenium?! Now there is an idea.
Unfortunately though I
can not find a suitable symbol. All good fun in the spirit of the season.
73, Simon g7guo


Happy New Year

 

The big Y2K is just around the corner, and from here is sounding the best wishes for the new millenium.

APRS i the new millenium should bring Denmark on the international map to. Already around 20 stations in under 1 year.

By the way Roger. Great software. I will send my registration soon.

Vy 73 de OZ9APR/Finn
++++


Re: smile it's y2k nearly

 

I have seen some funny things on my screen since I started running UI-VIEW. I
saw a buoy just off the Essex coast describing itself as the smallest country
in the world. I have seen a horse. Last night I saw a lost rover! I presume
this was a joke about a lost dog.I suppose tomorow we might see landing
aliens for the new millenium?! Now there is an idea. Unfortunately though I
can not find a suitable symbol. All good fun in the spirit of the season.
73, Simon g7guo


Re: smile it's y2k nearly

Dave Ackrill
 

Keeping to the letter of the licence, then every time you cross you should
use the 'proper' call for the country that you are in (or Principality, but
let's not get that deep here - HI!).

Like on voice, having to change each time from GW to G and back again.

In reality, who's going to bother you about it? Only other Amateurs, to
whom it gives something to talk/argue about. :-)

Like some motoring offences, unless you are 'done' for something else as
well, I doubt if the RA are going to patrol the Scottish and Welsh borders
looking for errant UI-View/APRS users. ;-)

Cheers de Dave (G0DJA)

Being someone that lives within one or two miles of the border and crosses
over and back many times a day, if I had to change my call on the radio
each time that would be the last time I would use APRS mobile I think.
The fact that I am sending my location every time I transmit I think is OK.
but it would be nice to have some clarification.

Jan
GW7HOH


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Dave Ackrill
 

From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi Geoff

I appreciate that it can't be done everywhere, just where possible could be
very helpfull.

Andy.
For instance the local BBS and packet group run the 70cm and 23cm voice
repeaters, so it *may* be possible, I guess, to set something up at one or
other of those spots.

However, I can almost hear the Treasurer asking where the funds are going to
come from HI!

It's worth asking anyway, as many groups have linking systems on 70cm/23cm
and those sites may be able to support a WIDE digipeater......

Cheers de Dave (G0DJA)


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Dave Ackrill
 

It's a good idea!

I'll ask WRG (Wakefield Repeater Group) who run the GB7WRG BBS if it might
be possible.

Cheers - Dave (G0DJA)

From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi Roger

Nice overlay I wonder if only just some of them nodes were to add a digi
port on 144.800 we could have a constant national network over night.


Re: smile it's y2k nearly

Carl
 

Keeping to the letter of the licence, then every time you cross you should
use the 'proper' call for the country that you are in (or Principality, but
let's not get that deep here - HI!).
This that follows isnt an argument...more a 2m repeater dribble of thoughts...
<ducks>

Ooo. the Kenwood THD7 doesn't have CWID by the way :)

Personally, since /m you dont need a log - then sticking to your home
call even when (gasp) in Eng-e-land strikes me as a non heinous crime.

Its not as if I'm being imprecise with my actual location?? :)

If I do have to change callsigns then I'll do what PAF did today - run
hell for leather back across the state line but leave a GW 'shadow'
permanently anchored in Cymru. :) Thats MORE misleading n'est ce pas?

I can't actually do it without slapping a terminal prog onto theTNC
and replacing the GPS and deactivating GPS mode and changing MYcall and
then reactivating the GPS mode...etc etc

and then.... what of packet in France. Im GW0TQM there - cos you CANT
put a slash in mycall... <visual imagery goes off the scale>

All this riding the cutting edge of the wave of IT makes yer legs ache...

Vive l'europe.

Happy New Year!

Carl gw0tqm
carl_mail@...
gw0tqm@...


lan feature !!!

Bob
 

well I have sat here for the past 3 hours and tried to get my packet machine to work with my internet machine over the LAN
being a newbie to LAN I still need to do a bit of soul searching.

I have read the docs and still it eludes me
what exactly do I need to do ????

can someone enlighten me in layman's terms
I have for my internet machine a p133 with a pci network card running into a 5 port hub
for packet I have a p300 with the same type of network card running into the same hub
UI-view 2.16 is loaded onto both machines

I have seen the lights on the hub flashing (port 1 and 2) which leads me to believe that I am most of the way there but I am missing that vital ingredient !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ho hum

BTW Roger thanks for the f8 key on disabling the GPS makes driving a lot easier now that I can switch to another application while on the move


Regards
Bob Scaife using ui-view 2.16 reg
g7paf@...
ax25 g7paf@gb7jem.#19.gbr.eu
icq 17945619


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Ciemon G0TRT
 

Of course the TH-D7 and TM-D700 can do this already, without the mic-e box.
For those of you that don't subscribe, the US APRSIG has gone wild with info
about the new Kenwood radio, it's been released there.

73......Ciemon Dunville G0TRT email: g0trt@...
Loc: 5207.25N 00058.23E www: www.g0trt.freeserve.co.uk
Tel: +44 (0)7715 104275 ICQ#: 6263612


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Ciemon G0TRT
 

Hi all,

Some of you may have heard of the mic-e system, this is one possible way of
getting your local repeater group to "develop their repeater".

Quite simply, the mic-e (microphone encoder) is a box that goes between
your mic and radio. Attached to that box is a GPS. As you're driving along
your packets get fed to the mic-e and get transmitted on the repeater input,
normally when you de-key. The repeater filters out the packet "baaaaaarp" so
that it doesn't get put out on the output. The filtered "baaarp" is sent out
on 144.8. No-one on the repeater knows anything about it!!!

So, for those of you who want to run a 2m rig in the car and APRS on 144.8
this is a possible solution. It's also get some well placed digi's up.

73......Ciemon Dunville G0TRT email: g0trt@...
Loc: 5207.25N 00058.23E www: www.g0trt.freeserve.co.uk
Tel: +44 (0)7715 104275 ICQ#: 6263612


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi Geoff

I appreciate that it can't be done everywhere, just where possible could be
very helpfull.

Andy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Anderson <geoff.anderson@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ui-view] UK site cleared nodes overlay


From: "Geoff Anderson" <geoff.anderson@...>

Hi Andy,

A nice idea BUT how do you run two co-sited nodes on frequencies that are
a
matter of a few 12.5Khz channels apart without serious de-sense problems?
If
it can be done with the use of cavities the size of the Albert Hall I
would
be interested to know.

Seasonal greetings
Geoff G3NPA

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Pritchard <apritch@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: 30 December 1999 12:17
Subject: Re: [ui-view] UK site cleared nodes overlay


From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi Roger

Nice overlay I wonder if only just some of them nodes were to add a digi
port on 144.800 we could have a constant national network over night.

I have asked our local packet group maxpak if they could accomodate a
144.800 port for the midlands. Perhaps if everybody asked there local
groups
if they could just add a port it would certainly be a step in the right
direction for us.

73 - Andy, G7OCW


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Geoff Anderson
 

Hi Andy,

A nice idea BUT how do you run two co-sited nodes on frequencies that are a
matter of a few 12.5Khz channels apart without serious de-sense problems? If
it can be done with the use of cavities the size of the Albert Hall I would
be interested to know.

Seasonal greetings
Geoff G3NPA

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Pritchard <apritch@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: 30 December 1999 12:17
Subject: Re: [ui-view] UK site cleared nodes overlay


From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi Roger

Nice overlay I wonder if only just some of them nodes were to add a digi
port on 144.800 we could have a constant national network over night.

I have asked our local packet group maxpak if they could accomodate a
144.800 port for the midlands. Perhaps if everybody asked there local
groups
if they could just add a port it would certainly be a step in the right
direction for us.

73 - Andy, G7OCW


Re: UI-View V2.16 beta update available

Roger Barker
 

In article <rYB5IAA+W1a4EwcI@...>, Roger Barker
<roger@...> writes
The download URL is
t.gr/sv2agw/inst.htm
I hadn't noticed that my email software had decided to split that URL
onto two lines. It should be -



--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


UI-View V2.16 beta update available

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

For those who didn't realise it - UI-View V2.15b expires at midnight on
31st December! I have now uploaded V2.16b to the Onelist files area.
It's uiv216.exe in the Beta folder. Don't be surprised if it has one or
two problems:-

The reason it's so late being released is because I have been waiting
for SV2AGW to release an update of the Packet Engine. I put new code
into UI-View at the beginning of December, which wouldn't work because
of a slight problem in the Packet Engine's support for the TCP/IP
interface. I was faced with the choices of releasing a UI-View update
with a new feature that didn't working, or trying to disable the new
feature and hide it, or hanging on and hoping the Packet Engine update
was released in time.

George released the update yesterday, but it only partially fixed the
problem that I had found. However, I think I have managed to work round
the remaining aspects of the problem.

Please bear in mind that this is a beta version of UI-View and also that
SV2AGW puts an awful lot of effort into developing the Packet Engine, so
don't complain too loudly if some problems occur! Also, I much prefer
bug reports to be sent to this list rather than as packet bulletins.
(Anyone who has followed the saga since I released a WinPack update a
week or so ago will know why I'm saying that.) If anyone chooses to
announce this beta on the UK packet network, please include all these
comments in the announcement.

UI-View now supports the AGWPE TCP/IP interface. The default is to use
the DDE interface, but the TCP/IP interface will allow you to have AGWPE
running on one PC and to have UI-View running on another PC, connecting
to the remote AGWPE via TCP/IP.

To use the AGWPE TCP/IP interface with UI-View you ***MUST*** use the
latest version of AGWPE. The internal version number is still 2000.13,
but AGWPE.EXE is time stamped 10:42 on 29th December 1999 and is 421,888
bytes in size. If you try to use a previous version, then it definitely
won't work. If you downloaded your version before 29th December, then
you can't possibly have the correct version! NOTE - this only applies to
using the TCP/IP interface, if you use the default DDE interface then
you can use any version of AGWPE. The download URL is
t.gr/sv2agw/inst.htm

The following are the changes since V2.15b. A full list of the changes
since V2.1 is included in the update.

Changes UI-View V2.15 -> V2.16 beta
-----------------------------------
1. AGW host mode now supports the Packet Engine tcp/ip interface.
Previously it only supported the DDE interface. If the Packet Engine
and UI-View are running on the same PC (the normal situation), there
is no advantage to using the tcp/ip interface. However, it enables you
to have AGWPE running on a different PC to UI-View. PLEASE read the
"AGWPE Setup" section of the help, and PLEASE TAKE NOTE of the
requirements. In particular, you MUST have version 2000.13, dated 29th
December 1999, or later of the Packet Engine, because all previous
versions lacked support on the tcp/ip interface for a feature used by
UI-View. NOTE - there was an earlier version 2000.13 that didn't have
support for the required feature.

2. Double-clicking on an overlay station will now always open a fixed
station details form, even if the station is a weather station.
Previously it opened a weather info form, which was pointless for an
overlay station.

3. "Set PC Clock From GPS" option added to "GPS Setup". PLEASE read
the help for more information - the Offset value does not work exactly
as you might expect.

4. UI-View can now act as an APRS server. If you have two or more
UI-View systems on a LAN, one can act as a server for the others. See
the "Local APRS Server" section of the help.

5. IGATE.INI now makes available extra options for the internet to RF
gateway. See the "APRS Server Setup" section of the help.

6. Pressing F8 with the focus on the main window provides a shortcut
to the "GPS Input Enabled" check box in "GPS Setup".

The Following Bugs Have Been Fixed
----------------------------------
1. If you used a proxy server to connect to APRServe, the "Text to
send on connection" wasn't always sent.

2. In "Miscellaneous Setup", you couldn't leave "Extra maps path"
blank.

3. A station with a callsign nine characters long, e.g. GM4IDE-10,
could be reported as being your best DX, even if it was heard via a
digi.

4. When data from APRServe was saved in a log file, the last
character of the frame header could be lost.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


Re: UK site cleared nodes overlay

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi Roger

Nice overlay I wonder if only just some of them nodes were to add a digi
port on 144.800 we could have a constant national network over night.

I have asked our local packet group maxpak if they could accomodate a
144.800 port for the midlands. Perhaps if everybody asked there local groups
if they could just add a port it would certainly be a step in the right
direction for us.

73 - Andy, G7OCW


Re: smile it's y2k nearly

ken collins <[email protected]
 

Hi,

No comment on Bob's message except that, due to lack of word wrap, it
was difficult to read.

I also had the following line appended after the signature. Did anyone
else have this line appearing?

[Attachments have been removed from this message]
--
Ken