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Re: 7904 R7903 general impressions

John Griessen
 

bhaskins@... wrote:
I'm looking for a new toy and am thinking about a 7904 or R7903.
There is a lot of material in the archives but I would still like
to get some ideas from the group
If you have more than one lab bench in use, some rack mount scopes can be helpful, even stacked up three high... At one of my two benches, I have a 2230 DSO on the left on an adjustable shelf, plus a rack mount R7903 on the shelf above that, and a 7844RM right on top of it. Below the shelf at the left is a lower than lab bench height desktop with computers on it, and connections from them to the bench flow easily under the scopes. I can't see all the scopes from a sitting position, but I have my lab benches chest high for standing work, and a normal height desktop adjacent.

The 7844 is a four slot rackmount shape...about as fast as a 7904 too...

John Griessen

PS My other bench has a 7904A.


Rubber Feet

 

Who in TekScopes was it that offered rubber feet for scopes. I think it was
Howard something, but I do not have his last name or email address. I need
some more scope feet.

Ken


Re: TDS540 - replaced caps but beeper stuck on and clock issue?

 

Hi Stephen,
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Thanks for the info.
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I'm not sure what Tekronix was thinking with a clock that needs to be reset every time you power up - seems pretty useless to me.
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I'll try cleaning and recapping the front panel next.

David.

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Stephen Smith <sjsmith@...> wrote:

From: Stephen Smith <sjsmith@...>
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: TDS540 - replaced caps but beeper stuck on and clock issue?
To: TekScopes@...
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:34 PM






Hello David,

I'm fairly sure that all the original TDS520/540/620/ 640/820 series do
not have battery backed real-time clocks. The time is kept in
non-volatile memory but not updated while powered down. You need to
set the time each time you power up. (I know, I have to do this on my
TDS820).

The TDS500/600/700 A,B,C and D series had battery backed RTCs.

Another issue is that the internal batteries in the non-volatile
components are eventually going to fail. They are supposed to have a
life of around 10+ years, however I think a lot of these are now well
over this. Do you know what the date code is on the DS1245Y-120?

As for the piezo beeper, I'm not sure, however it is on the front
panel PCB which you haven't done yet...

Regards,
Stephen.

--- In TekScopes@yahoogrou ps.com, David Woodhead <david_woodhead@ ...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I just finished replacing all the electroytic caps on CPU and
Acquisitions boards in my TDS540 (did not do front panel yet). I also
replaced a couple of TL074's that had a bunch of electrolyte
underneath them.

It now powers up and reliably passes the power on self test. I ran
the I/O cal routine and it calibrated without issue as well. In fact I
have checked everything I can think of and it all appears to be
working very well except.....

The beeper stays on continually. Also, the clock is not working
correctly. I can set and it runs fine but when I power down and power
up again (a few minutes later) it appears that the clock did not
continue to run when powered down. It does not default to year ~2002
(build date) - it remembers the time when powered down and picks up
where it left off when powered up again! When I press diplay time it
tells me that the clock is not updating when powered downand to run
the setup utility to set the time.

The scope is remembering time and appears to be storing calibration
values ok (when powered down). But the clock does not continue to run
when powered down and the beeper is stuck on.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
David.






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Re: 2n2207 for 547 horizontal sweep and 3A1, 3A6 multivibrator

Craig Sawyers
 

M151
0188

Haven't tried to source or cross them.
That is a Tek part number, 151-0188-xx, which is a 2N3906.

Craig


2430A CCD and PA fail... bad NVRAM?

synthmdl76
 

Hello all... here is the issue.

I bought it on ebay and recieved it and it worked fine. I looked in
the help log and it stated 430hrs run time.... yes low, but I dont
think it was true.

after 2 days I powered it up and got a fail on the ccd during the self
test.
It was a 7430 /ccd/pd-offset/ch2-1 to be exact. Ran the ext diag and
then got a CCD Fail and a PA fail.
I let the unit run for a 0.5 hours or so and did a run test (ext diag)
till passes during this time and the unit finally passed.

turned the unit off (let it cool overnight) and powered it back up
today and I got a CKSUM-NVRAM fail with many of the self
test(1000-8000) blank (untested). I wound guess theyre blank because
the scope did not run these test because it relies on values stored in
ram (from what Ive read in this group).

I let the scope warm back up for a few minutes, re-ran the ext diag
and all passed (including the nvram) but the 7430 CCD/PD-OFFSET/CH2-1
which failed. The 8132 /PA/OFFSET/ENV-SP-SLOW CH2 was failing a bit
for the first few minutes but now passes.

I have also noticed during the self test the crt display flicker
slightly. I wonder if this is normal or if the caps in the power
supply may be bad as I guess is common on a unit this age.

Now the thing is... even with these errors I can still use the scope,
both channels and it seems to work fine. All I use it for is my DIY
synthesizer build to see if Im getting signals where I should (nothing
precise).

My question is I wonder if I have a bad DS1230AB NVRAM (bad battery
to be exact) and not a bad CCD and PA that are causing these errors?


FS: 310A and 317 scopes

 

Several years ago I was bitten by the Tekscope bug and eventually
accumulated fourteen different scopes. I finally realized that
many of them just sit around looking nice and gathering dust, so
would like to sell some. The big 5's just cost too much to ship
nowadays so I'm probably stuck with them (I also have a nice 515A
I'm not using if anyone's interested).

Anyhow the 310A and the 317 are both working (see pics).








(I cleaned the storage dust and dirt off them after taking the
calibrator trace pics. They aren't rusty).

I'll throw in the P6027 (1X probe) that came with the 310A.

The 317 is missing the right cabinet panel and I don't have a
spare power cord for it. Otherwise complete.

Please make reasonable offers ("silent auction") before I put them
on that auction place. Shipping on your dime from zip 65775 (US).

thanks
Charles


Re: 535A stood on its end

snapdiode
 

--- In TekScopes@..., Andre Majorel <aym-scinortcele@...>
wrote:

Hello all. Are there any known problems with using a 535A in
vertical position, i.e. with the fan at the rear looking down and
the front panel looking up ?

--
Andr¨¦ Majorel <URL:>
Do not use this account for regular correspondence.
See the URL above for contact information.
The only thing I can think of, and it is a stretch, is that now the
Mumetal cone has its open ends the wrong way around. Maybe the CRT
isn't shielded the same way it was before. But it's a given that you
have to adjust the trace rotation when you move the scope.


2n2207 for 547 horizontal sweep and 3A1, 3A6 multivibrator

 

FYI
Had an issue with a recently acquired 3A6 - trace switching multivibrator
was inop. Contact cleaning and reseating the transistors did the trick. The
interesting part was that both transistors had been replaced with what appear to
be Motorola devices. They are labeled exactly as follows:

M151
0188

Haven't tried to source or cross them. Since they work in the 3A6 they might
do fine in the 547, also.
Would like to be copied on any follow-ups.
Bernd Schroder

In a message dated 8/28/2008 8:53:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
larynx222@... writes:




I'm new to this group, and I can't speak as an expert, but I had a 2N2207 go
bad in the multivibrator section of a 3A1 plugin from a 565 scope. I also
had trouble finding this transistor, so I tried a 2N404a and it has worked just
fine for the past 6 months. I don't know if the operating parameters are
more demanding in the sweep section of a 547, but it might be worth a try.
2N404a's were a lot easier to find
If an easy source for 2N2207's exists I'd like to hear about it also.
Hope this helps

----- Original Message ----
From: samuelrankin <_sam.rankin@... (mailto:sam.rankin@...) >
To: _TekScopes@yahoogrouTekSco_ (mailto:TekScopes@...)
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:37:53 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] 2n2207 for 547 horizontal sweep.

The horizontal sweep on one of my 547 oscilloscopes died yesterday.
I've been able to diagnose the root cause as being a faulty 2N2207 PNP
transistor.

My question to the group is: where can I find some replacement
transistors. A quick search yielded American Microsemiconductor. But
the minimum $50 order is way overkill.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,

Sam










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Re: 535A stood on its end

Craig Sawyers
 

Hello all. Are there any known problems with using a 535A in
vertical position, i.e. with the fan at the rear looking down and
the front panel looking up ?
Other than cooling (ie ensuring that the fan intake is not obscured), and
ensuring that the fan does not do a good job of vacuum cleaning the floor
and depositing it in the scope, I can think of no reason why not.

Craig


535A stood on its end

 

Hello all. Are there any known problems with using a 535A in
vertical position, i.e. with the fan at the rear looking down and
the front panel looking up ?

--
Andr??? Majorel <URL:>
Do not use this account for regular correspondence.
See the URL above for contact information.


Re: TDS540 - replaced caps but beeper stuck on and clock issue?

 

Hello David,

I'm fairly sure that all the original TDS520/540/620/640/820 series do
not have battery backed real-time clocks. The time is kept in
non-volatile memory but not updated while powered down. You need to
set the time each time you power up. (I know, I have to do this on my
TDS820).

The TDS500/600/700 A,B,C and D series had battery backed RTCs.

Another issue is that the internal batteries in the non-volatile
components are eventually going to fail. They are supposed to have a
life of around 10+ years, however I think a lot of these are now well
over this. Do you know what the date code is on the DS1245Y-120?

As for the piezo beeper, I'm not sure, however it is on the front
panel PCB which you haven't done yet...


Regards,
Stephen.

--- In TekScopes@..., David Woodhead <david_woodhead@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I just finished replacing all the electroytic caps on CPU and
Acquisitions boards in my TDS540 (did not do front panel yet). I also
replaced a couple of TL074's that had a bunch of electrolyte
underneath them.

It now powers up and reliably passes the power on self test. I ran
the I/O cal routine and it calibrated without issue as well. In fact I
have checked everything I can think of and it all appears to be
working very well except.....

The beeper stays on continually. Also, the clock is not working
correctly. I can set and it runs fine but when I power down and power
up again (a few minutes later) it appears that the clock did not
continue to run when powered down. It does not default to year ~2002
(build date) - it remembers the time when powered down and picks up
where it left off when powered up again! When I press diplay time it
tells me that the clock is not updating when powered downand to run
the setup utility to set the time.

The scope is remembering time and appears to be storing calibration
values ok (when powered down). But the clock does not continue to run
when powered down and the beeper is stuck on.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
David.






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Re: 7904 R7903 general impressions

Bernice Loui
 

Hello,

Of the two choices, the 7904 would be better for most work. If rack mount is required, then it going to be a R7xxx, with three slots.

The 7xxx mainframe choice depends more on what one is planning to work on with the scope. The later 7904A has a number of improvements that are worth considering (improved power supply, nicer packaging, various circuit updates and etc.). I have used 7904's for years and still to this day,they are one of my favorites. They the basic "work horse" 7K mainframe.

Two other very interesting 7K main frames would be the 7844 dual beam which is basically two 7904s in one package or the 7104, micro channel plate CRT with 1Ghz bandwidth using the proper plug ins. I currently use a 7104 at work for specialty analog/digital design work and what that MCP offers is very high real time writing speed.

Bernice

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm looking for a new toy and am thinking about a 7904 or R7903.

There is a lot of material in the archives but I would still like

to get some ideas from the group as if this is a good choice

or if there are better choices in the 7XXX family.

Thanks for your input,

Bert


Re: Tek 7S12 TDR plugin for trade

 

Hello again,

I think I goofed yesterday and replied to the moderator instead of the
list. I just wanted to clarify the trade offer. The 7S12 is just the
7S12, no plugins. Also, the knob for turning the distance tape scale
is not 100%. It has a flip out handle for turning the knob, but the
actual handle is gone. It functions like an ordinary knob though.

Also, I have a line on a 7D15 for a decent price. I'm still looking
for sampling heads and pulse generator heads.

Thanks,
Bob

--- In TekScopes@..., "redarlington" <rdarlington@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I picked up two 7S12 TDR plugins for my Tek 7854 scope on eBay. I
checked them both out and they're fine. I only need one and would
like to trade the other for any of the following plugins that I'm
looking for:

S6 sampling head
S52 pulse generator head
7B87 time base
7D15 225MHz frequency counter

Also, I'll be working on writing some modern software for the Tek
7854. I'm leaning toward a USB to GPIB or Ethernet to GPIB interface
so I can use a laptop instead of a computer requiring a PCI slot. Do
any of you have experience with these units?


or


If I go with the Ethernet model, it would prevent the need for any
custom drivers to be installed, any computer with network access would
be able to talk to the scope (or any other GPIB instrument chain) and
not be limited to the 5 meter USB cable spec.

Thanks, and I apologize if this is not the proper forum for trades.

-Bob


TDS540 - replaced caps but beeper stuck on and clock issue?

 

Hi all,

I just finished replacing all the electroytic caps on CPU and Acquisitions boards in my TDS540 (did not do front panel yet). I also replaced a couple of TL074's that had a bunch of electrolyte underneath them.

It now powers up and reliably passes the power on self test. I ran the I/O cal routine and it calibrated without issue as well. In fact I have checked everything I can think of and it all appears to be working very well except.....

The beeper stays on continually. Also, the clock is not working correctly. I can set and it runs fine but when I power down and power up again (a few minutes later) it appears that the clock did not continue to run when powered down. It does not default to year ~2002 (build date) - it remembers the time when powered down and picks up where it left off when powered up again! When I press diplay time it tells me that the clock is not updating when powered downand to run the setup utility to set the time.

The scope is remembering time and appears to be storing calibration values ok (when powered down). But the clock does not continue to run when powered down and the beeper is stuck on.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
David.


Re: 2465A issue

 

This is normal. The calibrator changes frequency with the Time/Div
setting.

Mitch
N4MF

--- In TekScopes@..., "thepinkfloyd67" <timrim@...> wrote:

I have a 2465A, when I connect a prob to the built in calibrator, the
timebase and volts/div only have slight effect on waveform by
switching through the various settings, as I increase the timebase
frequency, it just starts to distort the waveform instead of
stretching out the wave. The scope responds ok to a signal generator
just fine, timebase and volts/div operate as expected.


Tek 465M Manual , New Posting

Ashley
 

Hi,
A manual for the Tek 465M has been posted on: ,
courtesy of Mr Stan Griffith (W7NI) and the manual site owner.
This manual includes schematics and is divided into chapters
(sections in the original TEK manual).

Thank You
Kiss-Electronics
Ms Ashley Hall
Cornelius, Oregon
W7DUZ


2465A issue

 

I have a 2465A, when I connect a prob to the built in calibrator, the
timebase and volts/div only have slight effect on waveform by
switching through the various settings, as I increase the timebase
frequency, it just starts to distort the waveform instead of
stretching out the wave. The scope responds ok to a signal generator
just fine, timebase and volts/div operate as expected.


Re: TEK 310-316-317-360 CRT Bezel needed

Kurt
 

For the benefit of the list archive: I checked the bezels
on my 310A and 360 and found that they are slightly
different, but they are mechanically interchangeable.
The 360 bezel is a bit more solid and has a boxy look
compared to the rounded corners on the 310A bezel.
-kurt

--- In TekScopes@..., "vollumscope" <perls@...> wrote:

Howdy-

Does anyone have a spare CRT bezel that fits
on the TEK 310 - 316 - 317 - 360 'scopes?

I believe the above four TEK scopes all use the same
CRT bezel.

The "3" series all use a 3" CRT.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Vollumscope.


CSA803 manual to give away

Kurt
 

Gentlemen,

I have a user's manual for the CSA803 Communications
Signal Analyzer. If anybody wants this, they can
have it. -kurt


Re: 7904 R7903 general impressions

Craig Sawyers
 

I'm looking for a new toy and am thinking about a 7904 or R7903.
My 7904 is my general scope of choice. In fact it gets used most (currently housing a 7L5 and tracking gen), with a 475/DM44 as an easily luggable alternative when needed.

Unless you need rack mounting, steer clear of the R7903 - it only has three bays as opposed to 4.

Craig