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Re: VW wiring-HELP!

 

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Tom Myers <TomMyers@c...> wrote:
Tom,

I really appreciate your help with my wiring dilema. Though I do
have to disagree with you on the removal of the VW wiring Bundle for
the ECU. I got the ECU and wiring harness out in about 15 minutes as
compared to 2 hours on my donor Legacy.

Again thanks

Brian
86 Syncro
Suffolk, VA


Re: Subaru conversion(&oil pan height) on Wolfy Automatic?

 

Hi Gary,
I have both a 87' Wolfsberg 1/2 camper and a 88' Wolfsberg. If you check the
year by year specifications listed at www.vanagon.com you find it was only
starting in 88' that VW lowered the height, first with the Wolfsbergs and
then in later years all vans. In measuring my vans I found that the 87'
(with Vanagon alloys and 205/70-14 MXL's) was 10" from ground to lowest part
of the oil sump (pan) and 9.5" from ground to header crossover pipe. So as
can see the sump is not lowest part of the engine underside area. On the 88'
(with stock steel rims and 185-14 tires) it measured 9" from ground to sump
and 8.5" from ground to cross pipe. I have not installed my Subaru engine
yet (I'm waiting for my teacher wife to be out for summer). I do have the
subie engine mounted on an engine stand and the Kennedy header& engine
carrier mounted up for trial fit. Measuring from the oil pan flange to the
bottom of the pan I get 6.5" and from the flange down "even" with the bottom
of the engine carrier is 4." Tom Meyers says he has 5.5" of ground clearence
on his pre 87' Westy. I would guess that on a later lowered van, the ground
clearance would be 4.5." My Triumph TR-6 has about the same clearance and I
can tell you that I do bottom out on certain driveway ridges. The height
changes where probably done via changing the springs (I will check in a
couple of weeks). It would be possible to raise the rear height buy
installing a thicker plastic packing piece under the rear springs. I've seen
this suggestion made for correcting spring sag on Westys (Triumphs had
problems with spring sag too and the factory fix was a machined Al packing
spacer installed under the rear road spring). Try an inexpensive
polypropylene cutting board for material. Changes in the front height would
require rechecking the alignment. As for shortening the oil pan and
retaining capacity, I have seen modified pans for circle track engines
constructed such that they have a wider bottom so as to hold more oil in a
shorter pan. Moroso makes such pans but not for Subaru engines. When I look
at my engine hanging there, I think there is enough room for that kind of
modified pan. The time to play around with this is while the engine is on
the stand. I intend to use 1/8" hard board to try constructing test models
from which to get a pattern. I will post more as I when I have solid
information to report.
Cheers,
Kevin Dawson


Shortened Oil Pan

 

I have a Porsche 911 that has an external oil tank, and keep thinking
that there should be some way of adapting the technology for use in a
Subagon. If I can ever make myself stay home on a weekend (just
love that Subaru power in the high Sierra) I'll try to look into it
further, but thought I'd see if anyone has looked into the
possibility
of using an external oil tank? Has anyone investigated this?

Mark


Re: tachometer wiring

Gary McEachern
 

Larry
It sounds as if you used 12V Zener Diodes! These are primarily used to regulate voltage . You want to use rectiifier diodes rated for 1A @ 400+ volts. A common rectifier diode which should do the trick is a "1N-4004".

Gary

----Original Message Follows----
From: Lawrence Johnson <LARRY_AVERY.JOHNSON@...>
Reply-To: subaruvanagon@...
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: [subaruvanagon] tachometer wiring
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 09:26:27 -0400

I need some help wiring my tachometer.

I made a two diode wiring arrangement to provide a signal to the VW
tachometer.

From 3,4 Coil ----|>----
&#92;
-------- To VW Tachometer
/
From 1,2 Coil ----|>----

For diodes (-|>-) I used 1w 12v from Radioshack. I get a tachometer
reading with either the 3,4 Coil connected or the 1,2 Coil connected but the
engine won't run with both connected. It appears as if the diodes are
letting some (excitor) signal back the wrong way and causing the wrong coil
to fire (this is only a guess).

Is my circuit correct? What diodes should I be using?
Thanks Larry


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Subaru conversion on Wolfy Automatic?

Gary McEachern
 

Hello
I am planning to do a Subaru conversion on an '87GL Wolfsburg Weekender with an automatic transmission.

Have any individuals on the list done the conversion on a automatic and/or a Wolfsburg Edition ? I believe the Wolfy and Carat models have a suspension which is lowered by 1.75" compared to a normal 2wd Vanagon. Can I assume that this will result in a dangerously low oil pan clearance on my van?

I am also interested in finding out individual listmembers opinions on how the Subaru engine powers the Vanagon with the stock VW automatic transmission.


Gary
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Re: Fuel lines

KEP
 

Sounds right. If you blow through the third one the air will exit by your
left knee. See our drawing and note the shaded tube.

Hobert Kennedy
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: Markus Benne <markus@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:27 AM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Fuel lines



I just hooked up the feul lines and I'd like to make
sure I got them right.

There are three places to hook up the two fuel lines
on the Subbie. Looking at them from the right side of
the car, they form a triangle. I picked the top one
as the input and the right one as the output. Is that
right or did I get them backwards?

What is the other port for?

Thanks,
...Markus

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Re: tachometer wiring

Richard Myers
 

Lawrence Johnson wrote:

Dick, what is the URL for the Urabus website? I found www.urabus.com is 'Under
Construction'. Is that the right one?
-Larry

<snip> See the updated schematic on the Urabus website.
See:



click on the "-- wiring harness --" link, then click on the "simple circuit
posted here" link.

Dick


Re: tachometer wiring

Lawrence Johnson
 

Dick, what is the URL for the Urabus website? I found www.urabus.com is 'Under
Construction'. Is that the right one?
-Larry

<snip> See the updated schematic on the Urabus website.


Re: Fuel lines

Richard Myers
 

Markus Benne wrote:

I just hooked up the feul lines and I'd like to make
sure I got them right.

There are three places to hook up the two fuel lines
on the Subbie. Looking at them from the right side of
the car, they form a triangle. I picked the top one
as the input and the right one as the output. Is that
right or did I get them backwards?
You have it right.


What is the other port for?
The other port simply goes from the right side of the engine under the
intake minifold to the left-rear side. It was part of the charcoal
canister circuit on the Subaru. You can leave both sides unplugged.

Dick
Grass Valley, CA


Re: Heater ports? Which is which?

Richard Myers
 

Markus Benne wrote:

I'm ready to hook up the heater ports on the engine to
the heaters on the Vanagon. Although it probably
doesn't matter much, which is the input and which is
the output?

Might as well get the flow the same as with the
vanagon so that the coolant flows in the same
direction through the heater cores.
I'm not sure if you're asking about the engine or the heater. The port
that comes from a casting right below the intake manifold is the output
port from the engine (to the heater). The other port snakes around and
ends up next to the thermostat housing. This is the input port to the
engine. I don't know about the heater.

Dick
Grass Valley, CA


Re: tachometer wiring

 

Lawrence
I had the same problem with mine. I tried lower voltage diodes and fried them
every time. I think I found some 100 or 1000 (can't remember) volt diodes
from Radio Shack and have not had a problem since.


Re: tachometer wiring

Richard Myers
 

Lawrence Johnson wrote:

I need some help wiring my tachometer.

I made a two diode wiring arrangement to provide a signal to the VW
tachometer.

From 3,4 Coil ----|>----
&#92;
-------- To VW Tachometer
/
From 1,2 Coil ----|>----
For diodes (-|>-) I used 1w 12v from Radioshack. I get a tachometer
reading with either the 3,4 Coil connected or the 1,2 Coil connected but the
engine won't run with both connected. It appears as if the diodes are
letting some (excitor) signal back the wrong way and causing the wrong coil
to fire (this is only a guess).

Is my circuit correct? What diodes should I be using?
Thanks Larry
Check continuity on your diodes. You should see somewhere on the low Kohms (1
- 3 K?) with the meter across the diode. Swap the leads and you should see an
open circuit. I suspect you fried your diodes (probably shorted). Get some
beefy ones like Radio Shack 276-1114 and try again. See the updated schematic
on the Urabus website.

Good luck,

Dick


Re: Shortened Oil Pan

KEP
 

Reducing sump capacity requires checking the oil level more often if the
engine is consuming it. The external cooler will not help. The oil should
be changed more often unless the cooler replaces the quart or so to the
system which it will not. The disadvantage is, keeping the oil cold causes
sludge to build up.

Hobert Kennedy
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim King <tking_ms@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 6:00 PM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: Shortened Oil Pan


What about adding an external oil cooler to increase capacity? Would that
make a difference, or, is the idea that you want more oil floating around
in
the sump?

A group purchase on the harness is also something I'd be interested in. Is
that possible with all the variations in Subaru wiring I've heard about?

Bravo to warren for checking into this.

Tim King
87 Sycnro
Seattle, WA


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Re: Air conditioning

KEP
 

A few shops are competent enough to put an extension on the Vanagon AC hoses
so they will reach and fit the Subaru. We have not done it because we do
not have a competent shop in town. There is a variety of different
connections on different vans and a variety of connections on different
Subaru engines. The electronics should be no problem.

Hobert Kennedy
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary McEachern <glmce@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:51 AM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Air conditioning


Hello

Last week I purchased a '92 Legacy 2.2 with both PS and AC. I also ordered
the KEP conversion kit. I would like to use the Subaru compressor to run
the
AC in my 87 Wolfy. The compressor on the Subaru engine looks rather small
compared to the one on my Vanagon.

Do the AC hoses in the van simply connect to the stock Subaru compressor?
Is
it that simple to connect? I realize the system will need to be converted
and serviced once it is connected.

Is there anyone in the Boston area who has done a conversion? I would like
to see one, if possible, before I actually start mine.

Thanks

Gary

Gary McEachern, Reading Ma.
'90 Westy (4 sp)
'84GL w/ Super Sunroof (for sale)
'87GL Wolfsburg Weekender (auto)
'75 Spitfire

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Re: DIFFICULT COLD START

KEP
 

Something wrong with the cold start system.

Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: kjanda <kjanda@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: DIFFICULT COLD START


CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY I HAVE DIFFICULTY STARTING MY SUBARU ENGINE IN THE
MORNINGS. IT WANTS TO START BUT JUST PUFFS UNTIL FINALLY AFTER 5 TO 6
GOES
IT STARTS . IS IT FUEL?? TO MUCH ? NOT ENOUGH?? SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE
COLD START SYSTEM ?? PLEASE HELP


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Re: VW wiring-HELP!

KEP
 

Do not cut any of the VW wires. Unbolt and remove all the wires under the
back seat and in the engine compartment except the tail light wires. You
can leave the box on the firewall but pull the guts out of it.

Hobert Kennedy
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: <b.l.yonker@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:18 PM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] VW wiring-HELP!


I am in the process of my conversion and I am having trouble figuring
out the VW wiring.

1) Do I cut the vw wiring out of the picture except the ones I need?

2) Do I completely take out the VW ECU from under the back seat or
does it stay?

3) What about the VW coil and engine wiring box on the firewall
close to the coil? I know that the majority of my needed wires are
in this box, but there are alot of extras in there also.

Am I totally overlooking something here about the VW wiring harness
and ECU?

Please any and all help is appreciated.

Brian
1986 Syncro GL
Suffolk, VA


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Re: Shortened Oil Pan

KEP
 

I have not played with a tach, but I suggest you try turning the diodes
around. The way they are now they are not isolating the two circuits.
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Johnson <LARRY_AVERY.JOHNSON@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 5:53 AM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Shortened Oil Pan


I have located a company which specializes in performance Subaru
engines for sandrail applications.

They will section (shorten) your oil pan 1.75 inches for a fee of
$200.00. This will reduce the oil capacity by one quart. IMHO with a
good synthetic oil and reasonable monitoring),that would be enough to
feel comfortable. (I have to measure if this is enough for Syncros.)
Thanks Warren. I am an interested candidate. I have a spare oil pan ready.
We have both a Syncro WBX with skid guard and a Syncro Urabus without.
Over the weekend, I'll make some measurements to see if 1.75
inches will be enough.

It has been pointed out to me that the Subaru oil pump already has
fittings ready for an external oil cooler: the two bolts pointing
downward. I had thought of simply adding an external oil reservoir to
compensate for the reduced oil pan capacity. Any thoughts?

-Larry



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Re: VW wiring-HELP!

KEP
 

Try Subaru/Suzuki Auto Recycling, (800) 638-5773 or Foreign Cars (Norwood
CO.) (970) 327-4045.

Susan
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: <b.l.yonker@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:18 PM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] VW wiring-HELP!


I am in the process of my conversion and I am having trouble figuring
out the VW wiring.

1) Do I cut the vw wiring out of the picture except the ones I need?

2) Do I completely take out the VW ECU from under the back seat or
does it stay?

3) What about the VW coil and engine wiring box on the firewall
close to the coil? I know that the majority of my needed wires are
in this box, but there are alot of extras in there also.

Am I totally overlooking something here about the VW wiring harness
and ECU?

Please any and all help is appreciated.

Brian
1986 Syncro GL
Suffolk, VA


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Heater ports? Which is which?

Markus Benne
 

I'm ready to hook up the heater ports on the engine to
the heaters on the Vanagon. Although it probably
doesn't matter much, which is the input and which is
the output?

Might as well get the flow the same as with the
vanagon so that the coolant flows in the same
direction through the heater cores.

Thanks,
...Markus

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Fuel lines

Markus Benne
 

I just hooked up the feul lines and I'd like to make
sure I got them right.

There are three places to hook up the two fuel lines
on the Subbie. Looking at them from the right side of
the car, they form a triangle. I picked the top one
as the input and the right one as the output. Is that
right or did I get them backwards?

What is the other port for?

Thanks,
...Markus

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