Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:01 PM Rick < vwrick@...> wrote: I personally think that is insane money for a SB9A. I bought mine, a 1947, that wears it’s original paint, has the original flaking, came with 3 jaw, 4 jaw, collet closer, collets, taper attachment, steady and follower rests, thread dial, and more for $450 about 7 years ago.? Here in the north east, these are just not that hard to find.
 
-- Harry Molwitz
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
??? ???? I keep stopping at its a 3 & 1/2 ' bed . My 4' bed
has limits at times .
??? ??? animal
On 2/2/2023 5:18 PM, ken campbell
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nice one ... if ways are good and i needed another lathe i
would go $2000 for this ... 9 inch is a decent hobby lathe ...
and collets are better for little hobby projects anyway ...
cute !! ...
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
??? That's kinda the book I was reading? on this one . It will
probably sell though . It's still nice to see what is out there to
get a barometer reading on things .
??? ??? animal
On 2/2/2023 3:25 PM, wlw19958 wrote:
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Hi There,
What I can see, that lathe doesn't have the correct SBL "flaking"
pattern.
Most likely, it has been redone.? There are people that do really
good
scraping? and there are people that make really pretty flaking
(but not
scraping to truth).? I have done scraping to correct wear and
mating of
two parts but so far, only small things like compounds and such.?
The add says "Sold as is" so that may tell you something.
Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
nice one ... if ways are good and i needed another lathe i would go $2000 for this ... 9 inch is a decent hobby lathe ... and collets are better for little hobby projects anyway ... cute !! ...
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
??? ??? I think that's crazy $$ too. Though my 4' 9A was a bare
machine with 1 chuck & a box of tool holders . I think I got a
pretty good deal at $ 250.00 up in north east Ca . I was about to
hop in my truck & drive 150 miles to grab a Logan for $ 750.00
the day I remember about the guy that had? the SB . I knew the
history of the SB when I bought it & that is one of the
reasons I bought it .
??? ??? animal
On 2/2/2023 2:00 PM, Rick wrote:
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I personally think that is insane money for a SB9A. I bought mine,
a 1947, that wears it’s original paint, has the original flaking,
came with 3 jaw, 4 jaw, collet closer, collets, taper attachment,
steady and follower rests, thread dial, and more for $450 about 7
years ago. ?Here in the north east, these are just not that hard
to find.
 
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
Hi There,
What I can see, that lathe doesn't have the correct SBL "flaking" pattern.
Most likely, it has been redone.? There are people that do really good
scraping? and there are people that make really pretty flaking (but not
scraping to truth).? I have done scraping to correct wear and mating of
two parts but so far, only small things like compounds and such.?
The add says "Sold as is" so that may tell you something.
Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
I personally think that is insane money for a SB9A. I bought mine, a 1947, that wears it’s original paint, has the original flaking, came with 3 jaw, 4 jaw, collet closer, collets, taper attachment, steady and follower rests, thread dial, and more for $450 about 7 years ago. ?Here in the north east, these are just not that hard to find.  
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
I have not, but once upon a time, it was the only way to get accurate machine tools. I have bought or downloaded several works on doing scraping, since I have a number of old machines that could use being re-scraped. Going to take a bit of practice on some other stuff before I think I know enough, and have enough practice, to do it. Certain tools are also needed, and I have only? a couple of them, and not the most important. Yet. If I live long enough. ;)
You can still get classes in learning to scrape ways. Richard King was still running classes last I looked, and several of the guys who have metalworking channels on YouTube have taken his classes.?
If I ever find out that he's going to be in or near OKC, I will try to get into his class, myself.?
One holdup for learning this stuff for me is that I've not yet been able to source pieces of cast iron to work on and practice. There's a supplier in Tulsa that carries DuraBar, but I wasn't able to get them to call me back. One of these days maybe I can go knock on their door...?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 02:53:42 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I wonder if that's original flaking . I keep reading more
about somebody saying that " they " re-scraped " the apron or
other parts to bring the machine back into tolerance . From what
reading I have done on scraping it's a real art & you can ruin
a part/machine very quickly . The you see adds with " all original
flaking .? That to me falls in the same category as there's more
big block chevelle's on the road today than were actually
manufactured . Has anyone actually done scraping ?
??? ??? I do wish I had that collet set though .
??? ??? animal
On 2/2/2023 10:42 AM, Payson wrote:
No association with this.
PG
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Re: South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
??? ??? I wonder if that's original flaking . I keep reading more
about somebody saying that " they " re-scraped " the apron or
other parts to bring the machine back into tolerance . From what
reading I have done on scraping it's a real art & you can ruin
a part/machine very quickly . The you see adds with " all original
flaking .? That to me falls in the same category as there's more
big block chevelle's on the road today than were actually
manufactured . Has anyone actually done scraping ?
??? ??? I do wish I had that collet set though .
??? ??? animal
On 2/2/2023 10:42 AM, Payson wrote:
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No association with this.
PG
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South Bend Model 9A Precision 9x36 Lathe plus accessories - Beautiful! - $3,500 (Union Sq, Somerville)
No association with this.
PG
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Re: Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Thank you to everyone who replied. I bought a 2-flute ?” coated carbide cutter and lowered the BXA-22 tool holder block 0.220”. The steel was pretty tough, and acted like it was case-hardened, but it did cut. I ended up at 0.020” deep.
0.3” wide cuts, slow feed with mist coolant. The case hardening did some damage to the tips of the cutter, but once I got going, I continued on until done. Finally, success!
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Don
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Stuart Wilby via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 2:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
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I’ve taken some off the tool shank to drop the cutter on centre on a couple of my favourite cutters, worked fine.
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Great info there, Mike! Thanks for sharing it!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 01:53:34 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? Here's a page with all the dimensions of the 4 main sizes
of QCTP's
??? ??? I bought my AXA wedge type? QCTP for my SB 9A from CDCO
Machinery? . Depending on where you get
one , If you have the? $$ when you order you might want to get
some extra tool holders with that purchase? the freight will be
some cheaper then buying then separately .
??? ??? animal
On 1/29/2023 10:40 AM, G K via
groups.io wrote:
Afternoon,
I just recently acquired a QCTP (Phase 2 250-100) for my SB9c that
came with a few holders.? 250-202, 250-207, and 250-110.? I will
be needing additional holders, but am confused on what model to
get.? From what i have found the 250-100 holder is AXA and will
work on a 9-inch lathe.? However, what I have also found is the
the 250-202 holder is actually for a BXA post, which is too big
for a 9-inch lathe.? Will either or the 250-202 or 250-101 work on
the 9-inch SB?? What size/designation should I be shopping for,
and where would you guys suggest I look?
Thanks,
Greg
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??? ??? Here's a page with all the dimensions of the 4 main sizes
of QCTP's
??? ??? I bought my AXA wedge type? QCTP for my SB 9A from CDCO
Machinery? . Depending on where you get
one , If you have the? $$ when you order you might want to get
some extra tool holders with that purchase? the freight will be
some cheaper then buying then separately .
??? ??? animal
On 1/29/2023 10:40 AM, G K via
groups.io wrote:
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Afternoon,
I just recently acquired a QCTP (Phase 2 250-100) for my SB9c that
came with a few holders.? 250-202, 250-207, and 250-110.? I will
be needing additional holders, but am confused on what model to
get.? From what i have found the 250-100 holder is AXA and will
work on a 9-inch lathe.? However, what I have also found is the
the 250-202 holder is actually for a BXA post, which is too big
for a 9-inch lathe.? Will either or the 250-202 or 250-101 work on
the 9-inch SB?? What size/designation should I be shopping for,
and where would you guys suggest I look?
Thanks,
Greg
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On 1/29/2023 10:54 AM, mike a wrote:
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??? ??? The difference between a 201 vs a 202 is the 202 has a
V cut in the bottom of the tool slot so you could also hold a
boring bar or a round tool . Keep in mind if you have a 202 or
102 holder you cant use the smaller tool bits cause they will
teeter in the groove . The 250-1XX would be the AXA & should
be the one for a SB 9 ot 10" Lathe . The 250-2XX would be a BXA
& would be for a larger lathe .
animal
On 1/29/2023 10:40 AM, G K via
groups.io wrote:
Afternoon,
I just recently acquired a QCTP (Phase 2 250-100) for my SB9c
that came with a few holders.? 250-202, 250-207, and 250-110.? I
will be needing additional holders, but am confused on what
model to get.? From what i have found the 250-100 holder is AXA
and will work on a 9-inch lathe.? However, what I have also
found is the the 250-202 holder is actually for a BXA post,
which is too big for a 9-inch lathe.? Will either or the 250-202
or 250-101 work on the 9-inch SB?? What size/designation should
I be shopping for, and where would you guys suggest I look?
Thanks,
Greg
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??? ??? The difference between a 201 vs a 202 is the 202 has a V
cut in the bottom of the tool slot so you could also hold a boring
bar or a round tool . Keep in mind if you have a 202 holder you
cant use the smaller tool bits cause they will teeter in the
groove .
animal
On 1/29/2023 10:40 AM, G K via
groups.io wrote:
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Afternoon,
I just recently acquired a QCTP (Phase 2 250-100) for my SB9c that
came with a few holders.? 250-202, 250-207, and 250-110.? I will
be needing additional holders, but am confused on what model to
get.? From what i have found the 250-100 holder is AXA and will
work on a 9-inch lathe.? However, what I have also found is the
the 250-202 holder is actually for a BXA post, which is too big
for a 9-inch lathe.? Will either or the 250-202 or 250-101 work on
the 9-inch SB?? What size/designation should I be shopping for,
and where would you guys suggest I look?
Thanks,
Greg
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101? will, 201 will not
Best Regards,
Andrei D. Calciu
6371 Birch Leaf Court
Burke, VA 22015-3528 USA
mailto:calciu1@...
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Afternoon,
I just recently acquired a QCTP (Phase 2 250-100) for my SB9c that came with a few holders.? 250-202, 250-207, and 250-110.? I will be needing additional holders, but am confused on what model to get.? From what i have found the 250-100 holder is AXA and will
work on a 9-inch lathe.? However, what I have also found is the the 250-202 holder is actually for a BXA post, which is too big for a 9-inch lathe.? Will either or the 250-202 or 250-101 work on the 9-inch SB?? What size/designation should I be shopping for,
and where would you guys suggest I look?
Thanks,
Greg
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Afternoon,
I just recently acquired a QCTP (Phase 2 250-100) for my SB9c that came with a few holders.? 250-202, 250-207, and 250-110.? I will be needing additional holders, but am confused on what model to get.? From what i have found the 250-100 holder is AXA and will work on a 9-inch lathe.? However, what I have also found is the the 250-202 holder is actually for a BXA post, which is too big for a 9-inch lathe.? Will either or the 250-202 or 250-101 work on the 9-inch SB?? What size/designation should I be shopping for, and where would you guys suggest I look?
Thanks,
Greg
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Re: Modifying an Aloris tool holder
I’ve taken some off the tool shank to drop the cutter on centre on a couple of my favourite cutters, worked fine.
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Re: Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Have done AXA holders with carbide tooling, no problems.
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Re: Modifying an Aloris tool holder
Genius idea! I’m going to try and trim the bottom of the block with a carbide cutter. If it doesn’t work out, this will be my Plan B.
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Thanks!
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Don
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of wlw19958
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Modifying an Aloris tool holder
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Hi There,
I have modified a couple of Aloris tool holders using HSS.? In my case,
I had a couple BX1 tool holders that wouldn't fit the dovetail on my tool
post (an Aloris BXA).? I have a large 60° cutter and I made a couple of
light passes (about .003") to open up the dovetail to make it fit.
I had an occasion that I needed to lower the tool block and I just moved
the tool post on the compound so the dovetail section hung off the side
enough to allow the tool block to clear the top of the compound.?
Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb
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harry molwitz
Bill in OKC too
Payson
Stuart Wilby