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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
Vacuum is an extremely versatile technique -- in fact, the use of vacuum to "clamp" glued laminates is one of the main reasons that wood is still used to build high-strength boat hulls (and machinable forms, and low-cost drones, and narc subs).? A vacuum pump, a plastic tarp, some duct tape, spruce shavings and epoxy glue -- instant transoceanic boat.? Spruce has a better strength/weight ratio than any other affordable material except maybe carbon fiber ... and all the joy of making mud-pies too!? :)? Yes, I started down this road back when WeldWood(R) phenolic resin was the best waterproof glue we could get -- i.e., a decade before epoxy was a Thing.? British designer Uffa Fox made WWII aircraft out of glued laminate wood.? He has been quoted as saying: "Fibreglas is like artificial insemination -- it works, but there's no joy in it."? I so affirm.? But glued wood is joyful! On Dec 28, 2023 13:53, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育??? ??? I like that vacuum approach , sounds like ya been down
this road before . thanks animal On 12/28/23 3:54 AM, Lou wrote:
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育I will look for it on Amazon. Sounds like a material I could use for multiple projects.On 12/28/2023 6:54 AM, Lou wrote:
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育That slot is the primary offender. The taper attachment bolt slides in the slot when not tightened, which makes covering the slot a bit of a challenge. I like your solution.On 12/28/2023 6:00 AM,
eddie.draper@... via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
Kydex(R)? is an inexpensive thermoformable plastic much beloved by DIY sheath makers.? (A square foot of .080" sheet costs around $6 on Amazon.)? It forms nicely in hot (375°F) air from a hobbyist heat gun or a corn popper.?? Put your taper attachment down on a flat surface with a few magnets stuck to it and carefully duct-tape a sheet of Kydex over it so no air can get under it except via a single 3/8" or 1/2" tube hooked up to (e.g.) your vacuum cleaner.? Pull a gradual gentle vacuum under the Kydex, apply hot air to the top, and it will deform under atmospheric pressure until it conforms to the taper-attachment-plus-magnets.? Use the heat gun to control and "encourage" the area of deformation.? When it fits closely enough, disassemble the vacuum rig and trim the Kydex to size (I usually resort to my Dremel). Finally, epoxy the magnets into their vacuum-formed recessed on the underside of your Brand-New Taper Attachment Cover.? It snaps on, sheds swarf, and looks intentional ;) without actually requiring application of precision measurement tools ... although now's a convenient moment to use a similar set-up to make little nests for your calipers and mics and collets and chucks, etc.? -- Just sayin'.?? In the boatyard where I grew up, we always reminded each other to be careful not to let the Yacht Owner see how low-tech we actually were, for fear it would make him indisposed to pay our exorbitant rates.? Well, if we'd had Kydex in those days we would have built his dinghy out of it and never told him how it was really done -- but we would have charged plenty, you betcha, and pretended it was all done by Controlled Molecular-Level Engineering.? Those were the days ... On Dec 28, 2023 00:25, Mike Poore <mpoore10@...> wrote:
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育Here's the thread cover I made for our 14.5" tool room dated 1943 at Golden Valley Light Railway. Another piece of sheet metal attached to the same TTA clamp bolt would cover the TTA. I would fit it under the thread cover, as that needs to be reversed occasionally, and it needs some sort of anti rotation device. In fact now you've highlighted the necessity, I'm going to do just that! We also have a Colchester Triumph 2000 with a TTA that could do with one (rebadged as Clausing 15" when exported to America The thread cover has to be reversible and unequal lengths in order to allow the full range of cross slide travel. The bolt head sliding in the slot prevents rotation. The clamp nut is not tight in normal turning when not using the TTA, and unscrews sufficiently without falling off to allow the bolt head to lift out of the slot when reversing the thread cover. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育I've seen those cheap cutting boards at the Dollar Tree . Ya could heat up a magnet & push it into that material . I knew I'd heard of Kydex before so I did a google . They use it for pistol holsters . animal On 12/27/23 9:25 PM, Mike Poore wrote:
I did something similar on another lathe using a rubber mat. The downside was chips stuck to the magnet, but not a big deal. |
Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育I did something similar on another lathe using a rubber mat. The downside was chips stuck to the magnet, but not a big deal.Never heard of Kydex until your reply, so I learned something regardless. Is that the material they use for cutting boards? Is there a cheap item commonly sold made of it that I could experiment? On 12/27/2023 11:43 PM, Lou wrote:
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育??? ??? DO ya have a 3D printer , or access to one ? animal On 12/27/23 9:15 PM, Mike Poore wrote:
As "generous" as your offer is, I could not do that to you. Sadly, I think I have used it once in 3 years. |
Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育As "generous" as your offer is, I could not do that to you. Sadly, I think I have used it once in 3 years.On 12/27/2023 10:26 PM, mike allen
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Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
Sheet Kydex, heated and shaped and cut to suit, with three or four rare-earth magnets artfully glued to it where they will match to the taper attachment? Or sheet acrylic, if you want transparency...? Yes. I know, it's quick and dirty but it will keep the debris off and you won't be heartbroken if it falls on the floor ... oh yes, and it isn't likely to scratch the ways :) Yes, I have several shields I made this way and I still love them.? :) :) On Dec 27, 2023 21:45, Mike Poore <mpoore10@...> wrote: I have a SB9A with taper attachment. I would like to fashion a cover for the cross slide and taper attachment as it seems like the most time consuming area to clean. There does not seem to be an obvious way to attach covers without some hole drilling, which I prefer as a last resort. The cross slide screw is most annoying to clean, but the taper attachment as a whole is a pain. Removing it when not using the taper attachment is the obvious solution, but I would like to avoid that as well. |
Re: Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
开云体育??? ??? Ya could just remove the taper attachment & send it to me , I'd take one for the team . I think they had covers like yer askin about for the Craftsman lathes . I think there's a few folks here with Craftsmans , maybe they could chime in on that . animal On 12/27/23 6:45 PM, Mike Poore wrote:
I have a SB9A with taper attachment. I would like to fashion a cover for the cross slide and taper attachment as it seems like the most time consuming area to clean. There does not seem to be an obvious way to attach covers without some hole drilling, which I prefer as a last resort. The cross slide screw is most annoying to clean, but the taper attachment as a whole is a pain. Removing it when not using the taper attachment is the obvious solution, but I would like to avoid that as well. |
Cover for Cross Slide and/or Ways
I have a SB9A with taper attachment. I would like to fashion a cover for the cross slide and taper attachment as it seems like the most time consuming area to clean. There does not seem to be an obvious way to attach covers without some hole drilling, which I prefer as a last resort. The cross slide screw is most annoying to clean, but the taper attachment as a whole is a pain. Removing it when not using the taper attachment is the obvious solution, but I would like to avoid that as well.
Does anyone have photos of how they deal with chip control? |
Re: More train talk
开云体育??? ??? Thanks Jim , that pretty darn impressive . I wonder if he's related to Clickspring . I let a watch makers lathe get away from me many years back , still kickin myself for that one I bet it had 35-40 collets . animal On 12/27/23 6:13 AM, Jim V via
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Re: More train talk
True that, but truer for a system that is unbalanced. William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 04:51:24 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? That's just about anything in the transportation world ??? animal On 12/26/23 11:55 AM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
They would need a system
that was impossible to break. Might be just the ticket for
something that ran in a tube, though. Though someone
skipping just one maintenance check/refill on the oil or
grease could be catastrophic.?
Bill in OKC
William R.
Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms
to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect
in one hand, expectorate in the other. See
which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:56:36 PM CST, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
Since we seem to move nicely with train talk
here , I watched this last
nite & thought it was pretty darn cool .
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?I have a vintage Sperry gyroscope that was
my dads along with the book
that came with it , I'm gonna have to dig out
the book & play with the
unit for a while .
animal
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Re: More train talk
开云体育
??? That kiddie train is bad ass ! I live a few miles from the Western Pacific Railroad Museum . They have @ 160 pieces of engines & rolling stock , but everything there is a 2 track , no mono's here . Sounds like they have the cow to market all figured out . I'm amazed at just how many people, chickens guys with machine guns or the such they manage to fit on one motorcycle in that part of the world . I think I may have seen a pic with a guy & his cow on a motorcycle .
???
?? Thanks ??? animal
On 12/27/23 12:56 PM,
eddie.draper@... via groups.io wrote:
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Re: More train talk
开云体育??? ??? That's just about anything in the transportation world ??? animal On 12/26/23 11:55 AM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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Re: More train talk
开云体育On the subject of monorails, don't forget the Patiala state railway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDKDY6SVHxg and Listowel & Ballybunion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-_5YOHa0sg. On the latter, if you wanted to take a cow to market, you put it in one side of a wagon, and 2 half size cows or big calves the other side. On removing the big cow at its destination, you moved one of the smaller ones to the other side to achieve balance on the return "empty" journey. (It's Ireland.) Eddie
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Re: More train talk
that was rather interesting!! this video followed...?? Making the World's Smallest Beam Stirling Engine
On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:56:37 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Since we seem to move nicely with train talk here , I watched this last nite & thought it was pretty darn cool . . ?I have a vintage Sperry gyroscope that was my dads along with the book that came with it , I'm gonna have to dig out the book & play with the unit for a while . animal |
Re: More train talk
They would need a system that was impossible to break. Might be just the ticket for something that ran in a tube, though. Though someone skipping just one maintenance check/refill on the oil or grease could be catastrophic.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:56:36 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
Since we seem to move nicely with train talk here , I watched this last nite & thought it was pretty darn cool . . ?I have a vintage Sperry gyroscope that was my dads along with the book that came with it , I'm gonna have to dig out the book & play with the unit for a while . animal |