Re: Insurance and other stuff
Pete,
I feel ya! ?We are in Oregon currently building a small (550 sq ft) cottage on my wife's brother's 20 acres. ?My bro-in-law and I are the two main crew, although I must give kudos to Kris, my partner of more than 50 years. She's all in on the construction, fetching tools, nails, schlepping lumber, whatever it takes. ?At 71, 76 and 73 respectively, it's a challenge, but a rewarding one. ?Maybe it's foolish at my age to be hanging out over the gable end about 20' above the ground in order to nail a sub facia in place. ?I guess the many years of sailing and racing where one routinely has to be very physical and stretch one's comfort level have made it somewhat easier at this stage in the journey. ?We will not move here permanently for awhile, still wishing to have a presence in TX. ?But we also understand the heightened risks of living right at the edge of Galveston Bay, so have been trying to find something modest away from the coast. ?And then there's the issue of our beloved Orion, at present on the hard in Toms River, NJ. ?We brought Orion to the Eastern Seaboard in 2017 after sailing her from NJ to TX in 2012 to complete a major refit. ? Since leaving TX, we have led the gypsy life when aboard, usually a week or two every two months in the winter and full summers aboard the last three years. ?The thought of maintaining a boat on the East Coast while living on the West Coast though does not resonate. ?And no way I'm paying $7k to transit the Panama Canal to bring her to the West Coast. ?Beyond that, the best cruising grounds on the left coast are south of the border in Mexico and then Puget Sound and the San Juans and the Canadian coast. The Oregon coast is rugged with nasty inlets and shallow bays. ?Not user friendly.
But wait! ?If we can find a reasonable housing compromise in TX, the flights to the East Coast are frequent and inexpensive. ?Therefore, I'm counting on several more years of sailing on Orion, though a sale is certainly more in our conversations these days.
Btw, I've had insurance through Progressive since we bought Orion in 2012. ?Kevin Severance in Kemah TX is my agent. ?They have never demanded a survey, although I did one a few years ago to establish a cost basis. ?It's my feeling that Kevin gets more wiggle room due to the volume he brings to Progressive, but I could be wrong. ?It may surprise some, but the Houston/Galveston area has the fourth larges concentration of boats in the country.
Dave, Orion, '87 38MKI #99 Toms River, NJ
On Thursday, April 24, 2025, 04:43:01 PM PDT, Peter Tollini via groups.io <sabre30@...> wrote:
Reflecting on age, health and changing priorities, we were debating putting Solace on the market. She spent last year on the hard while we rebuilt our cottage, sold the house and adjusted to retirement after a half century of intensely high pressure careers (labor and employment attorney and nursing director.) It¡¯s not fair to sideline a beautiful thoroughbred that¡¯s been part of our family for 22 years. The demand for a survey by BOAT US/Geico as a condition of renewal last week was the tipping point. I spoke to GEICO and explained that the boat was in secure land storage and asked for alternatives or a 12 month waiver of the survey. They were polite but inflexible, then offered to continue the current policy through the current term without the survey. I thanked them for the kind offer of the sleeves from their vest. The rep was still confused when I thanked her for her time and ended the conversation.
Once I get Solace cleaned up and inventoried, more will follow.
Pete
Solace, 1988 30 Mk III
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Re: Insurance and other stuff
Pete, I am sorry to hear that but I do know the feeling. Please continue being a member of this forum. I value your input.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
510 912-5800 cell
510 860-4640 fax
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On Apr 24, 2025, at 4:43?PM, Peter Tollini via groups.io <sabre30@...> wrote:
?Reflecting on age, health and changing priorities, we were debating putting Solace on the market. She spent last year on the hard while we rebuilt our cottage, sold the house and adjusted to retirement after a half century of intensely high pressure careers (labor and employment attorney and nursing director.) It¡¯s not fair to sideline a beautiful thoroughbred that¡¯s been part of our family for 22 years. The demand for a survey by BOAT US/Geico as a condition of renewal last week was the tipping point. I spoke to GEICO and explained that the boat was in secure land storage and asked for alternatives or a 12 month waiver of the survey. They were polite but inflexible, then offered to continue the current policy through the current term without the survey. I thanked them for the kind offer of the sleeves from their vest. The rep was still confused when I thanked her for her time and ended the conversation.
Once I get Solace cleaned up and inventoried, more will follow.
Pete
Solace, 1988 30 Mk III
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Insurance and other stuff
Reflecting on age, health and changing priorities, we were debating putting Solace on the market. She spent last year on the hard while we rebuilt our cottage, sold the house and adjusted to retirement after a half century of intensely high pressure careers (labor and employment attorney and nursing director.) It¡¯s not fair to sideline a beautiful thoroughbred that¡¯s been part of our family for 22 years. The demand for a survey by BOAT US/Geico as a condition of renewal last week was the tipping point. I spoke to GEICO and explained that the boat was in secure land storage and asked for alternatives or a 12 month waiver of the survey. They were polite but inflexible, then offered to continue the current policy through the current term without the survey. I thanked them for the kind offer of the sleeves from their vest. The rep was still confused when I thanked her for her time and ended the conversation.
Once I get Solace cleaned up and inventoried, more will follow.
Pete
Solace, 1988 30 Mk III
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
Sorry, I do not have the old CNG cylinders .
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On Apr 24, 2025, at 11:27?AM, kwhite390 via groups.io <kwhite390@...> wrote:
? Did you convert from CNG?? I'm looking for another CNG tank for my S38MKII.
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
Did you convert from CNG?? I'm looking for another CNG tank for my S38MKII.
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Re: Surveyor near Kennebunkport Maine
Gene did my survey last June in Rockland.
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Re: Surveyor near Kennebunkport Maine
So the same question goes for George Gallup. I need an insurance survey in the fall. He did that for me on Mt Desert in 2020 as well as the pre purchase in 2015.? I¡¯m not getting an answer to email or phone but he appears to still be operating, albeit under a different company name.? His reports are extremely thorough & he knows Sabres.?
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On Apr 24, 2025, at 7:35?AM, Alan via groups.io <alanpressman@...> wrote:
? Yes, I think Gene Barnes will travel to Maine for surveys.? ---Alan Pressman Windswept S402 Phone; 941-350-1559
Hi all,
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Does anyone have a referral for a Surveyor near Kennebunkport?? Is Gene Barnes still doing surveys and if so would he travel that far?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85 Stained Blue
Chicago
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SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: Surveyor near Kennebunkport Maine
Yes, I think Gene Barnes will travel to Maine for surveys.? ---Alan Pressman Windswept S402 Phone; 941-350-1559
Hi all,
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Does anyone have a referral for a Surveyor near Kennebunkport?? Is Gene Barnes still doing surveys and if so would he travel that far?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85 Stained Blue
Chicago
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Surveyor near Kennebunkport Maine
Hi all,
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Does anyone have a referral for a Surveyor near Kennebunkport? ?Is Gene Barnes still doing surveys and if so would he travel that far?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85 Stained Blue
Chicago
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Re: Very Wet Bilge (another leak)
Agustin,
If I am seeing the photo correctly, the bolt in question looks like it's just a connector for two grounds, i.e. the black wires. ?It sits right in front of and in the channel for a weep hole, so the water will always accumulate in that low channel from somewhere else. ?Where, I cannot say.
Dave
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025, 12:06:50 PM PDT, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
Also, on our 426 we saw small leaking from the bolts that hold the swim ladder on. ?And yes it required serious boat yoga to repair.
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:03?PM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:
Thank you. There's water weeping in from further aft. It looks like the channel hole(s) is at the boat's center-line and is far back enough that I can only imagine it is from scupper connections or rudder post. It's difficult to follow it any farther from the aft cabin so I will be going into the lazeret at the stern to see what's up. Removing that large cowl around the rudder post to have a look will not be fun.
I'm going to clean up the packing gland and, yes, it is leaking. Repacking is one of the things I'm going to work on. For a 1.25 inch shaft on a Sabre 425 with a W46, would I use 1/4 inch packing?
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The haulout nearest to Montego Bay is 100 miles east. In the Caribbean, that means straight into the wind all the way and that means motoring for 24hrs. Once I get there (Port Antonio) there will be a travel lift and chocks, but no services, no labor, and no parts. I'm trying very hard to plan something workable and the sooner I can get out of here safely, the better life will be!
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Thank you for all your help, everyone. It's appreciated and good to know I'm not fully alone with these problems.
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Augustin
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
Sigh, envious¡
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Jeff B
1988 Sabre 34-2, 347
S/V Northwood
Deale, MD
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
I converted our 1988 S36 to propane, the 6 pound tanks fit the locker and the vertical tanks work without a problem in the near-vertical locker.?
Rich
S36-079
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Re: Very Wet Bilge (another leak)
Also, on our 426 we saw small leaking from the bolts that hold the swim ladder on. ?And yes it required serious boat yoga to repair.
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:03?PM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:
Thank you. There's water weeping in from further aft. It looks like the channel hole(s) is at the boat's center-line and is far back enough that I can only imagine it is from scupper connections or rudder post. It's difficult to follow it any farther from the aft cabin so I will be going into the lazeret at the stern to see what's up. Removing that large cowl around the rudder post to have a look will not be fun.
I'm going to clean up the packing gland and, yes, it is leaking. Repacking is one of the things I'm going to work on. For a 1.25 inch shaft on a Sabre 425 with a W46, would I use 1/4 inch packing?
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The haulout nearest to Montego Bay is 100 miles east. In the Caribbean, that means straight into the wind all the way and that means motoring for 24hrs. Once I get there (Port Antonio) there will be a travel lift and chocks, but no services, no labor, and no parts. I'm trying very hard to plan something workable and the sooner I can get out of here safely, the better life will be!
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Thank you for all your help, everyone. It's appreciated and good to know I'm not fully alone with these problems.
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Augustin
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: Very Wet Bilge (another leak)
Thank you. There's water weeping in from further aft. It looks like the channel hole(s) is at the boat's center-line and is far back enough that I can only imagine it is from scupper connections or rudder post. It's difficult to follow it any farther from the aft cabin so I will be going into the lazeret at the stern to see what's up. Removing that large cowl around the rudder post to have a look will not be fun.
I'm going to clean up the packing gland and, yes, it is leaking. Repacking is one of the things I'm going to work on. For a 1.25 inch shaft on a Sabre 425 with a W46, would I use 1/4 inch packing?
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The haulout nearest to Montego Bay is 100 miles east. In the Caribbean, that means straight into the wind all the way and that means motoring for 24hrs. Once I get there (Port Antonio) there will be a travel lift and chocks, but no services, no labor, and no parts. I'm trying very hard to plan something workable and the sooner I can get out of here safely, the better life will be!
?
Thank you for all your help, everyone. It's appreciated and good to know I'm not fully alone with these problems.
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Augustin
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Re: Very Wet Bilge (another leak)
Sorry I didn¡¯t answer completely¡ the rest was in my head! ? It is a ground for something. Possibly a ground system, a lightning bond, an SSB, refrigeration etc.
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On Apr 23, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this forum, but I found yet another leak (picture attached). Does anyone know what this bolt is on the upper left-hand corner is about? It has a black wire attached that goes to (or comes from) the engine area somewhere. The bolt leaks and leaves a path of water that goes into the bilge.
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This morning there was significantly less new water accumulated in the bilge so there has been a significant improvement since yesterday.
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Augustin
SV Rhapsody S425 (1990)
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: Very Wet Bilge (another leak)
Augustine, that is a ground. ?Your packing gland should not be green. ?I suspect that is a big source of leakage. It looks like you have had standing water there for a while. ?You should take a bronze brush to the packing gland and clean it up and make sure it isn¡¯t leaking.
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On Apr 23, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this forum, but I found yet another leak (picture attached). Does anyone know what this bolt is on the upper left-hand corner is about? It has a black wire attached that goes to (or comes from) the engine area somewhere. The bolt leaks and leaves a path of water that goes into the bilge.
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This morning there was significantly less new water accumulated in the bilge so there has been a significant improvement since yesterday.
?
Augustin
SV Rhapsody S425 (1990)
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
Jeff, vertical stored vertically.? On the Targas the CNG locker was configured differently.? They're in the aft/port locker, in a near vertical configuration.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 1:01?PM Jeff Bartlett via <Jhbartlett= [email protected]> wrote: Are these horizontal tanks? Or vertical tanks stored horizontally?
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When I first started investigating this conversion, I ?could not find horizontal tanks that would fit.
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Jeff B
1988 Sabre 34-2, 347
S/V Northwood
Deale, MD
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1990 Sabre 34-2 Aft Cabin
"Ingalina"
Bath, ME
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
Fantastic.? Thanks, Scott.
Justin,
I did the conversion to propane last year. I now have two 6# aluminum cylinders in the locker. The only modification to the locker was a ventilated false bottom. These cylinders are shorter, so the false bottom makes them easier to reach. It also keeps them from sitting in a pool of water that sometimes collects at the bottom of the locker.
Scott After Midnight '89 34 mkII Targa #387 Boothbay Harbor, ME On Apr 23, 2025, at 7:08?AM, Justin Andrus via <justinandrus=[email protected]> wrote:
? Good morning, all.??
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I've done a forum search for a propane conversion on a 34-2 Targa, but haven't found a thread I thought I'd seen before.? Can anyone confirm that 6 pound tanks will fit in the lockers in a 34-2 Targa? I've found some comments on the net suggesting that they will, but no photos.
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1990 Sabre 34-2 Aft Cabin
"Ingalina"
Bath, ME
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1990 Sabre 34-2 Aft Cabin
"Ingalina"
Bath, ME
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Re: Very Wet Bilge (another leak)
Is the area on the other side of the weep hole, aft of the bolt in your picture, dry? If not, the water may be coming from someplace farther aft.?
You would have to look on the outside to see what is attached to the other end of the bolt. It might be a zinc or a ground plate.?
Be ready to stop a much faster leak if you try to tighten it, in case it crumbles away or breaks?off.
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this forum, but I found yet another leak (picture attached). Does anyone know what this bolt is on the upper left-hand corner is about? It has a black wire attached that goes to (or comes from) the engine area somewhere. The bolt leaks and leaves a path of water that goes into the bilge.
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This morning there was significantly less new water accumulated in the bilge so there has been a significant improvement since yesterday.
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Augustin
SV Rhapsody S425 (1990)
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Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
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Re: 34-2 Targa Propane Conversion
The 34 after-cabin has a vertical locker. Thus, they are vertical tanks. It made that part of the conversion process easier.
Scott
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On Apr 23, 2025, at 1:01?PM, Jeff Bartlett via groups.io <Jhbartlett@...> wrote:
? Are these horizontal tanks? Or vertical tanks stored horizontally?
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When I first started investigating this conversion, I ?could not find horizontal tanks that would fit.
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Jeff B
1988 Sabre 34-2, 347
S/V Northwood
Deale, MD
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David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME
Bill Akins
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Jim Harman