On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:03?PM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:

Thank you. There's water weeping in from further aft. It looks like the channel hole(s) is at the boat's center-line and is far back enough that I can only imagine it is from scupper connections or rudder post. It's difficult to follow it any farther from the aft cabin so I will be going into the lazeret at the stern to see what's up. Removing that large cowl around the rudder post to have a look will not be fun.

I'm going to clean up the packing gland and, yes, it is leaking. Repacking is one of the things I'm going to work on. For a 1.25 inch shaft on a Sabre 425 with a W46, would I use 1/4 inch packing?

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The haulout nearest to Montego Bay is 100 miles east. In the Caribbean, that means straight into the wind all the way and that means motoring for 24hrs. Once I get there (Port Antonio) there will be a travel lift and chocks, but no services, no labor, and no parts. I'm trying very hard to plan something workable and the sooner I can get out of here safely, the better life will be!

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Thank you for all your help, everyone. It's appreciated and good to know I'm not fully alone with these problems.

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Augustin

On Apr 23, 2025, at 12:03?PM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:

Thank you. There's water weeping in from further aft. It looks like the channel hole(s) is at the boat's center-line and is far back enough that I can only imagine it is from scupper connections or rudder post. It's difficult to follow it any farther from the aft cabin so I will be going into the lazeret at the stern to see what's up. Removing that large cowl around the rudder post to have a look will not be fun.

I'm going to clean up the packing gland and, yes, it is leaking. Repacking is one of the things I'm going to work on. For a 1.25 inch shaft on a Sabre 425 with a W46, would I use 1/4 inch packing?

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The haulout nearest to Montego Bay is 100 miles east. In the Caribbean, that means straight into the wind all the way and that means motoring for 24hrs. Once I get there (Port Antonio) there will be a travel lift and chocks, but no services, no labor, and no parts. I'm trying very hard to plan something workable and the sooner I can get out of here safely, the better life will be!

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Thank you for all your help, everyone. It's appreciated and good to know I'm not fully alone with these problems.

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Augustin

On Apr 23, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this forum, but I found yet another leak (picture attached). Does anyone know what this bolt is on the upper left-hand corner is about? It has a black wire attached that goes to (or comes from) the engine area somewhere. The bolt leaks and leaves a path of water that goes into the bilge.

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This morning there was significantly less new water accumulated in the bilge so there has been a significant improvement since yesterday.

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Augustin

SV Rhapsody S425 (1990)

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On Apr 23, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this forum, but I found yet another leak (picture attached). Does anyone know what this bolt is on the upper left-hand corner is about? It has a black wire attached that goes to (or comes from) the engine area somewhere. The bolt leaks and leaves a path of water that goes into the bilge.

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This morning there was significantly less new water accumulated in the bilge so there has been a significant improvement since yesterday.

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Augustin

SV Rhapsody S425 (1990)

<S425 _1990_2025-04- 23.jpeg>

On Apr 23, 2025, at 1:01?PM, Jeff Bartlett via groups.io <Jhbartlett@...> wrote:

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Are these horizontal tanks? Or vertical tanks stored horizontally?

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When I first started investigating this conversion, I ?could not find horizontal tanks that would fit.

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Jeff B

1988 Sabre 34-2, 347

S/V Northwood
Deale, MD

On Apr 23, 2025, at 7:08?AM, Justin Andrus via groups.io <justinandrus@...> wrote:

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Good morning, all.??

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I've done a forum search for a propane conversion on a 34-2 Targa, but haven't found a thread I thought I'd seen before.? Can anyone confirm that 6 pound tanks will fit in the lockers in a 34-2 Targa? I've found some comments on the net suggesting that they will, but no photos.

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1990 Sabre 34-2 Aft Cabin
"Ingalina"
Bath, ME

On Apr 22, 2025, at 4:32?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:

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On Apr 22, 2025, at 9:26?AM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:

Thanks to all. The water is salt. The bilge has several compartments. The forward ones generally don't get water until the one below the engine reaches a certain level. This tells me it's not any of the forward keel bolts since the engine compartments fills first. However, there are some bolts there so those might be a source, but there is also water aft of the engine, aft of the drive shaft stuffing box, and aft of the racor filter. I'm trying to make my way back there.

There has not been any rain here since I wiped the bilge 100% dry last week. I saw puddling around the mast once last year after a heavy rain, but a waterproof wrap around mast boot seems to have corrected that. I drained my water tanks for cleaning during these past few days, so I doubt it's a leaky tank issue, but I'm not dismissing that such an problem might exist to be checked later. Once I resolve the seawater leak I will use water pressure to test the tanks.

I also don't think it's a fuel tank leak because I'm not detecting and diesel and such a large amount would be obvious. I am now standing in the aft cabin and as I work my way further aft I will be lifting the bunk boards to look at AirCon connections, watermaker connections, then scupper connections and rudder stuffing box. Would there be anything else back there to check?

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Thanks again.

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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest

On Apr 22, 2025, at 9:26?AM, Augustin via groups.io <classical@...> wrote:

Thanks to all. The water is salt. The bilge has several compartments. The forward ones generally don't get water until the one below the engine reaches a certain level. This tells me it's not any of the forward keel bolts since the engine compartments fills first. However, there are some bolts there so those might be a source, but there is also water aft of the engine, aft of the drive shaft stuffing box, and aft of the racor filter. I'm trying to make my way back there.

There has not been any rain here since I wiped the bilge 100% dry last week. I saw puddling around the mast once last year after a heavy rain, but a waterproof wrap around mast boot seems to have corrected that. I drained my water tanks for cleaning during these past few days, so I doubt it's a leaky tank issue, but I'm not dismissing that such an problem might exist to be checked later. Once I resolve the seawater leak I will use water pressure to test the tanks.

I also don't think it's a fuel tank leak because I'm not detecting and diesel and such a large amount would be obvious. I am now standing in the aft cabin and as I work my way further aft I will be lifting the bunk boards to look at AirCon connections, watermaker connections, then scupper connections and rudder stuffing box. Would there be anything else back there to check?

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Thanks again.