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Dave,
How about adding some radio astronomy programs to your image, and maybe feature them. For one I am interested in this subject. I even have two telescopes in the shack.
Bob NZ2Z
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Re: Connecting screen and fan to GPIO pins at same time
Does the 3.5" display GPIO connector have the holes open all the way thru, or are they dead ended so nothing could stick out the top? If they are thru hole, just get a 40 pin stacking header.? Plugs onto the Pi GPIO pins and the leads sticking up are long enough to go thru the board on top.? They are used for stacking multiple hats on one Pi. You could also plug the fans into a USB port for 5V as well
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:42 PM Lawrence < va7edu@...> wrote: Was pondering that too.? I think the fans will need to move to a separate power supply.? I was considering a battery bank with multiple 5v outputs so one could go do the Pi and one to power the fans.
73 Lawrence Harris VA7EDU
On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:33, Grover Cleveland via < k7tp@...> wrote:
I bought a new heatsink with a couple of fans on board to cool my pi in the hot summer at a remote site.
I also want to run a 3.5" screen at the same time but this plugs on to the GPIO, covering all the pins.
So how do I power? both?
K7TP
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Are you an author that spent months writing an original work or just the assembler of other peoples work into a new format.
I would suggest that the vast majority of your "work" was just the assembly of other's effort into your own distro.
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On that note,
Anyone that isn't savvy enough to know how to get rid of the Nag screen, contact me directly.
Cowan
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I read the readme on GITHUB¡ ?
? is that where I should be looking? ? Dave G4ugm ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Sent: 09 July 2020 22:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Disabling Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC)? On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 05:20 PM, Dave Wade wrote: I wonder how many of the 6000 have read the licence? Why not put it in the list of software?
I wonder if you have read the README, because it's in there. I knew that trolls would harass me if I didn't put it there. And even though I put it there, I'm still getting harassed by trolls.
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Nobody "forced" you. You didn't have to install it in the first place. It was your explicit choice.
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 05:20 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
I wonder how many of the 6000 have read the licence?
Why not put it in the list of software?
I wonder if you have read the README, because it's in there. I knew that trolls would harass me if I didn't put it there. And even though I put it there, I'm still getting harassed by trolls. ? -- - Dave ??
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I wonder how many of the 6000 have read the licence? Why not put it in the list of software? ? Dave G4UGM ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Erickson
Sent: 09 July 2020 22:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Disabling Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC)? That¡¯s right, up to him how he presents it. ?Not up to him to decide what I can or can¡¯t install or remove. ?If he feels that it is his right, then I¡¯m out. ?Free as in speech, not free as in beer, that¡¯s opensource. I feel the whole BOINC thing feels wrong. ?Its only purpose, as far as I can tell, is to prompt someone to send him a postcard. ?I just don¡¯t get it. ?Why not a wallpaper? ?A raspberry pi, especially man portable, is not made to crunch numbers like that. ?I¡¯ve only got so many amp hours. Whatever, to each their own. ?I¡¯m plenty happy with my setup, I¡¯ve just followed along with this thread with some interest. ? 73,
Jim
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 13:38, Keating Floyd <kc4hsi@...> wrote: ? Wow.? Y'all are a tough crowd! I think Dave has done something pretty cool, and deserves some kudos.? How he chooses to package and present is up to him. I, for one, thank you, Dave! ? On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jim Erickson <jim@...> wrote: ¡°I would grant that request¡±? 73,
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:13, Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote: ? On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 02:57 PM, thegadget techie wrote: some implied remuneration?herein
I charge no money, nothing, nada, zilch.
I don't think asking for a postcard to remove a nag dialog is out of the question. What I wonder about is how petty a person can get that would complain about such a small thing? And if they choose not to send the postcard? Well, the nag dialog isn't going to prevent them from using the image.
If people have issues running BOINC, I'm not such an unreasonable person that if they approached me directly that i wouldn't force them to run it. Not everyone has a fan on their setup. I get it. So if they approached me with a good reason to disable it,?I would grant that request. But to take the choice away from me as the author of the creation is to strip away my rights that I worked hard for. It negates the six months of time I took to build the image and discourages me from sharing in the future.
And my source code is open for inspection. Just because I have a custom license and not a boilerplate GPL or MIT license keeps it from being open source. Nothing in my license takes away existing GPL licenses. People are free to modify their GPL software. I think there's a lot of headache due to "armchair lawyers" not understanding the nuances of the law or the LICENSE as it pertains to the software image and misapplying their incorrect assumptions.
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That¡¯s right, up to him how he presents it. ?Not up to him to decide what I can or can¡¯t install or remove. ?If he feels that it is his right, then I¡¯m out. ?Free as in speech, not free as in beer, that¡¯s opensource.
I feel the whole BOINC thing feels wrong. ?Its only purpose, as far as I can tell, is to prompt someone to send him a postcard. ?I just don¡¯t get it. ?Why not a wallpaper? ?A raspberry pi, especially man portable, is not made to crunch numbers like that. ?I¡¯ve only got so many amp hours.
Whatever, to each their own. ?I¡¯m plenty happy with my setup, I¡¯ve just followed along with this thread with some interest.
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Jim
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 13:38, Keating Floyd < kc4hsi@...> wrote:
Wow.? Y'all are a tough crowd!
I think Dave has done something pretty cool, and deserves some kudos.? How he chooses to package and present is up to him.
I, for one, thank you, Dave!
Keating KC4HSI
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jim Erickson < jim@...> wrote: ¡°I would grant that request¡±?
Holy!? I¡¯m out too. ------ 73,
Jim
VA7SHG - Phone
VE7TGZ/VA7TGZ - Other On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:13, Dave Slotter, W3DJS < slotter@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 02:57 PM, thegadget techie wrote: some implied remuneration?herein I charge no money, nothing, nada, zilch. I don't think asking for a postcard to remove a nag dialog is out of the question. What I wonder about is how petty a person can get that would complain about such a small thing? And if they choose not to send the postcard? Well, the nag dialog isn't going to prevent them from using the image. If people have issues running BOINC, I'm not such an unreasonable person that if they approached me directly that i wouldn't force them to run it. Not everyone has a fan on their setup. I get it. So if they approached me with a good reason to disable it, ?I would grant that request. But to take the choice away from me as the author of the creation is to strip away my rights that I worked hard for. It negates the six months of time I took to build the image and discourages me from sharing in the future. And my source code is open for inspection. Just because I have a custom license and not a boilerplate GPL or MIT license keeps it from being open source. Nothing in my license takes away existing GPL licenses. People are free to modify their GPL software. I think there's a lot of headache due to "armchair lawyers" not understanding the nuances of the law or the LICENSE as it pertains to the software image and misapplying their incorrect assumptions. ? -- ?- Dave ??
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Re: Transmit message <...>0/zzzzzzzz in WSJT-x using W3DJS image window is too large for 7 inch screen
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 04:26 PM, Dennis Blanchard wrote:
Running a Pi 3, 7 inch touch screen (using a mouse), FT-817nd, Yaesu CAT cable and homebrewed interface. I installed the W3DJS V2.0 image of ham radio apps. It is up and running, but I have noticed some odd things:
1. The window for the WSJT-x cannot be reduced beyond a certain size. It is a bit large for the 7 inch screen so to operate all the buttons I have to "grab" the window by using ALT and the mouse left button to move the window around. It is annoying, but does work. Is there another version of WSJT-x that I could install over the current one to fix this? In the W3DJS V1.0 WSJT-x, I was able to fit it all onto the screen.?
Dennis, Thank you for the report with regards to the 7 inch screen. I don't know if this will specifically help you, but it can't hurt to try... There is another weak-signal software program installed -- JTDX. You might try running JTDX and see if it will fit within your screen dimensions. I hope this helps. 73, ? -- - Dave ??
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Re: Transmit message <...>0/zzzzzzzz in WSJT-x using W3DJS image window is too large for 7 inch screen
As far as the?<...>0/zzzzzzzz goes, I checked with the other station and it wasn't transmitting my call, just "<...>"? I went into settings and deleted my call and re-typed it. I also noticed that the grid locator now had "EL8" instead of EL87. Why it dropped the digit, I'll never know.
Anyway, after fixing those things, I found that it was transmitting just fine and immediately made a contact with a station in Wyoming, so all is well.
Why it gliched, it is up to the software gods.
As for the window being too large, I don't have a solution for that.
de K1YPP
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Thank you, Keating and Jeff.
One more thing I'd like to point out has been completely overlooked by?everybody on this message thread.
The installation of BOINC is performing RADIO TELESCOPE RESEARCH. It is helping to search for Pulsars -- the very same thing that K1JT (the creator of WSJT-X) got his Nobel Prize for...
I find it very ironic that hams would generally object to running software which furthers research into RADIO ASTRONOMY.
Or am I the only one who gets this irony?
Granted -- if running BOINC causes you issues, please get in touch with me. I'll help you fix it. But if not, why wouldn't you want to further RADIO TELESCOPE RESEARCH?
Here's a link to the project:?
73,
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:53 PM Keating Floyd <kc4hsi@...> wrote:
Wow. Y'all are a tough crowd!
I think Dave has done something pretty cool, and deserves some kudos. How he chooses to package and present is up to him.
I, for one, thank you, Dave!
Keating
KC4HSI
Agreed. Thank you Dave. I appreciate your effort, and I'm sure countless others do too. Ignore the trolls. As you said, they don't have to use the software. You aren't forcing anyone to do anything. As for the "death of open source" comments, they fail to realize how often this scenario plays out.. Someone volunteers their time, and contributes it to the community. The community finds 1 thing they don't like, and naysays it constantly. Original volunteer feels unappreciated or gets annoyed and stops offering contributions. Talk about the *REAL* death to opensource.. it's these guys who DON'T contribute, but publically want to crap all over those that do. I've been there, in your shoes Dave. Don't let them get to you.
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Wow.? Y'all are a tough crowd!
I think Dave has done something pretty cool, and deserves some kudos.? How he chooses to package and present is up to him.
I, for one, thank you, Dave!
Keating KC4HSI
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jim Erickson < jim@...> wrote: ¡°I would grant that request¡±?
Holy!? I¡¯m out too.
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Jim
VA7SHG - Phone
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:13, Dave Slotter, W3DJS < slotter@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 02:57 PM, thegadget techie wrote:
some implied remuneration?herein
I charge no money, nothing, nada, zilch. I don't think asking for a postcard to remove a nag dialog is out of the question. What I wonder about is how petty a person can get that would complain about such a small thing? And if they choose not to send the postcard? Well, the nag dialog isn't going to prevent them from using the image. If people have issues running BOINC, I'm not such an unreasonable person that if they approached me directly that i wouldn't force them to run it. Not everyone has a fan on their setup. I get it. So if they approached me with a good reason to disable it, I would grant that request. But to take the choice away from me as the author of the creation is to strip away my rights that I worked hard for. It negates the six months of time I took to build the image and discourages me from sharing in the future. And my source code is open for inspection. Just because I have a custom license and not a boilerplate GPL or MIT license keeps it from being open source. Nothing in my license takes away existing GPL licenses. People are free to modify their GPL software. I think there's a lot of headache due to "armchair lawyers" not understanding the nuances of the law or the LICENSE as it pertains to the software image and misapplying their incorrect assumptions. ? -- - Dave ??
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Wow, the download stats certainly do justify your self-assessment as a guru and pioneer.
Quick question....how many of those downloads are actively running 3 weeks later?? How many have opted out after realizing the restrictions on your "license"?
My advice to any ham that gets your stuff and wants to change it is to go ahead.? Your "license" is unenforceable.
Mark KD0QYN
On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 2:54:44 PM CDT, Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote:
I'm not forcing a ham operator to use the image I created. If you don't agree with the terms, don't use it. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything.
And by the almost 6,000 downloads in less than 3 weeks since the release, that would seem that the opinions in this thread are in the small minority (less than one percent).
Insinuating that I'm killing "open source" is over-dramatic. The world isn't going to live or die by this software image. To argue otherwise is to argue that my software image is somehow important to the very life of open source. Unlike some other people, I am not so childish or narcissistic that I believe that. And again, the sources I created are generally open for inspection and modification.
You are welcome to your opinions, but as I pointed out, they are only a small fraction of a percent according to the download statistics.
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Transmit message <...>0/zzzzzzzz in WSJT-x using W3DJS image window is too large for 7 inch screen
Running a Pi 3, 7 inch touch screen (using a mouse), FT-817nd, Yaesu CAT cable and homebrewed interface. I installed the W3DJS V2.0 image of ham radio apps. It is up and running, but I have noticed some odd things:
1. The window for the WSJT-x cannot be reduced beyond a certain size. It is a bit large for the 7 inch screen so to operate all the buttons I have to "grab" the window by using ALT and the mouse left button to move the window around. It is annoying, but does work. Is there another version of WSJT-x that I could install over the current one to fix this? In the W3DJS V1.0 WSJT-x, I was able to fit it all onto the screen.?
2. The first few contacts went fine, but now I'm noticing that in the Receive window on WSJT-x, when I transmit, instead of showing a call letter, it puts something like "<...>0/zzzzzzzz" where the call should be. I'm not at the radio at the moment, but I seem to recall seeing it in the CQ text as well. I have a second station and at some point I will monitor what I'm actually transmitting to see if it compares to what I see in the receive window. Any thoughts?
Thanks, de K1YPP
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¡°I would grant that request¡±?
Holy! ?I¡¯m out too.
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:13, Dave Slotter, W3DJS < slotter@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 02:57 PM, thegadget techie wrote:
some implied remuneration?herein
I charge no money, nothing, nada, zilch. I don't think asking for a postcard to remove a nag dialog is out of the question. What I wonder about is how petty a person can get that would complain about such a small thing? And if they choose not to send the postcard? Well, the nag dialog isn't going to prevent them from using the image. If people have issues running BOINC, I'm not such an unreasonable person that if they approached me directly that i wouldn't force them to run it. Not everyone has a fan on their setup. I get it. So if they approached me with a good reason to disable it, I would grant that request. But to take the choice away from me as the author of the creation is to strip away my rights that I worked hard for. It negates the six months of time I took to build the image and discourages me from sharing in the future. And my source code is open for inspection. Just because I have a custom license and not a boilerplate GPL or MIT license keeps it from being open source. Nothing in my license takes away existing GPL licenses. People are free to modify their GPL software. I think there's a lot of headache due to "armchair lawyers" not understanding the nuances of the law or the LICENSE as it pertains to the software image and misapplying their incorrect assumptions. ? -- - Dave ??
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I'm not forcing a ham operator to use the image I created. If you don't agree with the terms, don't use it. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything.
And by the almost 6,000 downloads in less than 3 weeks since the release, that would seem that the opinions in this thread are in the small minority (less than one percent).
Insinuating that I'm killing "open source" is over-dramatic. The world isn't going to live or die by this software image. To argue otherwise is to argue that my software image is somehow important to the very life of open source. Unlike some other people, I am not so childish or narcissistic that I believe that. And again, the sources I created are generally open for inspection and modification.
You are welcome to your opinions, but as I pointed out, they are only a small fraction of a percent according to the download statistics.
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Re: Connecting screen and fan to GPIO pins at same time
Do you know what GPIO pins the LCD display is
using?? If you can find out, you can use something like this to
make the non-used GPIO pins available for other uses:
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KI6ZHD
On 07/09/2020 12:33 PM, Grover
Cleveland via groups.io wrote:
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I bought a new heatsink with a couple of fans on board
to cool my pi in the hot summer at a remote site.
I also want to run a 3.5" screen at the same time but this plugs
on to the GPIO, covering all the pins.
So how do I power? both?
K7TP
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Re: Connecting screen and fan to GPIO pins at same time
If you're talking about the 3.5 inch display from Adafruit, there is a header under the screen that has power to it. Pins 1 and 4 I think.
Mark KD0QYN
On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 2:33:49 PM CDT, Grover Cleveland via groups.io <k7tp@...> wrote:
I bought a new heatsink with a couple of fans on board to cool my pi in the hot summer at a remote site.
I also want to run a 3.5" screen at the same time but this plugs on to the GPIO, covering all the pins.
So how do I power? both?
K7TP
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