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John Hawks, a paleoanthropologist, has written a blog post on this find. https://johnhawks.net/weblog/a-look-at-the-sima-del-elefante-face/ Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified

A fascinating insight to the probable origin of Z156 and the downstream clades. Thanks Iain!! -- Kevin Terry

In case you don't have access to AppleNews. Here's an article on this discovery from Reuters: https://www.yahoo.com/news/spanish-fossils-may-represent-unknown-160800944.html.

Meet ‘Pink,’ the new face of human evolution in Europe Western Europe has a new oldest face: the facial bones of an adult nicknamed "Pink" discovered in Spain are from a potential new member of

Thanks for the explanation, I do appreciate it. Ed

Hi Ed, ? For R-S3997, I didn't feel that there was enough information to be as specific as, e.g., Gaulish. There's a huge gap of 2500 years between R-A10645 and R-S3997, and R-A10645 is likely to

Iain, Thanks (again) for all of the work and expertise you put into this. The outcomes are of great benefit to us all. As I wrote in an August 2024 posting (#8226) I have come to think that S3997 is

Brian, it was Richard Smith who initiated the conversation.? My response was simply that I saw no closer connection to the pringle snp's of Z381, and my Z156 line.? I have contacted Richard off list

R-L45 , R-L493 The surname of Stephen Warman of Balanterodoch, Scotland is close to the actual surname of W?rmund W?RMUND. “ 1237, the town name was recorded as "Ballentrodoch", from the Scottish

Dear Lyn I suggest after this reply we carry on any correspondence off this list. By way of background, the period from 2008 to 2015 was full of bicentenary events involving the Peninsular War and the

Dear all, ? I've updated my phylogeography document <https://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~mcdonald/genetics/phylogeography.pdf> with information about the basal clades of R-Z156. This includes about 1/3 of

Brian, I can’t thank you enough. I am occasionally in touch with Adam Pringle, who heads up Pringles in Ireland. (Clan Pringle.org). Adam is quite busy with preparations for the International

For what it is worth, Pringle and Beresford are good names for officers involved in a significant way in the Peninsular War, 1808-1814. I happen to belong to the Waterloo Association.

Lyn, All of this is tied into some work I am doing with a number of Galligan’s that are cousins to one another. At FTDNA, I find only one Galligan that is accessible to me. 921661 Galligan Patrick

Pringle aligns at Z381, estimate? 2700 BCE, so linkage to branching downstream Z156 lines of Ireland and Scotland would probably have occurred back in europe.

I don't recall anyone having made mention of the following: * A distinct genetic marker, carried by descendants of Robert the Bruce's close relatives, has been identified by researchers at the

Garron, I’m not an expert by any means but I have an amateur interest. ANE ancestry is found in basically all Europeans and all Native American groups, as well as some west Asian populations,

While investigating autosomal DNA matches for Cavan based Galligan, I stumbled into several trees suggesting that a line of Galligan descended from a union between a Beresford and a Pringle who

I've recently become pretty fascinated with the Ancient North Eurasians, from what I gather they are the ancestors of the Yamnaya pastoralists and of IE peoples in general. There even seems to be a

Another big thank you to Iain for this work, and another plea for some drilling down the L48 branch -- preferably to Z12 ;-)