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Re: Pringles, Beresford and County Cavan


 

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Brian,

I can’t thank you enough.

I am occasionally in touch with Adam Pringle, who heads up Pringles in Ireland. (Clan Pringle.org). ?

Adam is quite busy with preparations for the International Pringle Gathering scheduled for June 25th, so I hate to bother him unless its absolutely necessary. ?I will forward to him the links in your note.

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ALTHOUGH NOT SKILLED IN THE ANALYSIS OF Y CHROMOSOME MATCHING, I DO NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF SHARED Y-CHROMOSOME GENETICS OF ANY PRINGLE WHO HAS TESTED TO BIG-Y and the one single GALLIGAN that I uncovered who is R-BY142791.?

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SMITTY

(U106>>>Z156>>BY12480>A10971>BY18855>BY3239>BY18859>BY166050>FT168807)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Swann via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2025 2:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Pringles, Beresford and County Cavan

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For what it is worth, Pringle and Beresford are good names for officers involved in a significant way in the Peninsular War, 1808-1814.? I happen to belong to the Waterloo Association.

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And both were born in Ireland.? You may well have known that already, but perhaps others on this list are not military history buffs – and remember this period for a certain war fought on another continent and between 1812-1814.

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Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Smith via groups.io
Sent: 06 March 2025 23:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Pringles, Beresford and County Cavan

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Lyn,

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All of this is tied into some work I am doing with a number of Galligan’s that are cousins to one another.

At FTDNA, I find only one Galligan that is accessible to me.?

921661

Galligan

Patrick Galligan b. 1735 d. unknown

, Ireland

R-BY142791

Big Y-700

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I am 95% certain this Galligan is one and the same as *ftg2 below. (I HOPE TO CONFIRM, BUT I ONLY STUMBLED ON THIS FTDNA KIT TODAY)

This same Galligan claims to be a descendant of a Scotsman named Pringle (see GEDCOM).

I have been trying to find ways to investigate claim.

One problem I have is that some autosomal DNA evidence actually hints to the possibility of the claim.

I am just finishing up on comparing the Galligan HG versus the HG for Pringles in the Pringle Project.? I see no immediately recognizable connection of this Galligan to any of the Pringles in the project.

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Given the large number of Galligan inside of Ireland, I am surprised that there is no FTDNA Galligan Surname Project. ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lyn-David McMullen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 5:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Pringles, Beresford and County Cavan

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Pringle aligns at Z381, estimate? 2700 BCE, so linkage to branching downstream Z156 lines of Ireland and Scotland would probably have occurred back in europe.

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