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I need to clean up my Flickr account and make it not as chaotic. I haven¡¯t added anything to it in years.
Jon
Ah! That¡¯s not too far away at all is it.
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Maybe one fine day we¡¯ll cross paths and chat about photography face to face.
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All the best
Bob
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So you are only about 50 miles from me, I live in Newmarket 15 miles north of Cambridge.
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Re: Tripods and/or attachments for Macro work
Most of my current subjects as I explore this are outside in full sun. A ring flash down the road for sure. The focus rail or slider I can see as a needed item as adjusting/moving the tripod an inch or less to get the ability to focus can be a challenge.
Jon
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 14:48 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: Based on Scott Ditzel¡¯s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail.? I¡¯m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my ¡°new¡± 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I¡¯m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old ¡°Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography¡±, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro.? I believe this includes info on the DOF.? With the transition to digital, I¡¯ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I¡¯m not looking in the right locations.
Zane
On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I¡¯m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 ¡ª This one can¡¯t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it¡¯s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom¡¯s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 ¡ª This is now my ¡°general use¡± tripod, it¡¯s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 ¡ª For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T ¡ª For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic ¡ª No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I¡¯m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I¡¯ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I¡¯m using Tubes, I¡¯m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I¡¯m likely to go for extreme Macro¡¯s.? This is actually why I¡¯ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It¡¯s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I¡¯ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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Based on Scott Ditzel¡¯s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail. ?I¡¯m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my ¡°new¡± 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I¡¯m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old ¡°Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography¡±, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro. ?I believe this includes info on the DOF. ?With the transition to digital, I¡¯ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I¡¯m not looking in the right locations.
Zane
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I¡¯m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 ¡ª This one can¡¯t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it¡¯s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom¡¯s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 ¡ª This is now my ¡°general use¡± tripod, it¡¯s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 ¡ª For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T ¡ª For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic ¡ª No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I¡¯m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I¡¯ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I¡¯m using Tubes, I¡¯m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I¡¯m likely to go for extreme Macro¡¯s.? This is actually why I¡¯ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It¡¯s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I¡¯ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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Re: A small selection of photo's
Ah! That¡¯s not too far away at all is it.
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Maybe one fine day we¡¯ll cross paths and chat about photography face to face.
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All the best
Bob
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So you are only about 50 miles from me, I live in Newmarket 15 miles north of Cambridge.
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Roy
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Re: A small selection of photo's
Hi Mike
Indeed that¡¯s one of the ¡°benefits¡± of living in the countryside
?? - I¡¯m fibre to the cabinet but 2 miles from the cabinet!?
The line passes my house underground, after about ? mile it returns in the air and I¡¯m last on the line.? In a couple of years, they are due to stop using the copper wires but I have no idea how we are going to cope then.
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Bob
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Your upload speed is only 400K? Wow ... that'll take a long time for you to upload photos to any site.?
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:25?PM RobO <R_Offer@...> wrote:
Hi Roy
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Many thanks for your reply and comments about Flickr.? It certainly sounds good.? I¡¯ll have
a look into setting up an account, it may take a couple of days ~ I have to get a stack of outdoor jobs done whilst the weather is fine.
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I guess the account will be a 5min job, the photos may take a while longer ~ here in the
countryside, we¡¯re lucky to squeeze 2Mbps from our internet download, the upload is around 0.4Mbps
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I¡¯ll keep you posted when I get set up, and thanks very much for your interest in my photos
and pointing me to Flickr.
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With my best wishes
Bob
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Hello Bob
It is free up to 1000 images, you can publish straight from Lightroom which I think tells others what camera you were using and the exif data, quite good if you need help with an image, not that I think you need a lot of help and seems quite quick at getting
images in from Lightroom, that said I have only been using it for a week, I will however pay the upgrade price when the time comes.
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Roy
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So you are only about 50 miles from me, I live in Newmarket 15 miles north of Cambridge.
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Roy
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Yes, Roy, I¡¯m located in South Lincolnshire near the original BOSTON
? .... also near the original New York
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All the best
Bob
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Bob
I just noticed that your email is a uk address, is that right?
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Roy
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I really can¡¯t compare the two, but I¡¯m a long time fan of Flickr. ?You can do a lot there without having to pay.
Zane
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:59 AM, RobO <R_Offer@...> wrote:
Hello Roy ? No I¡¯m not on Flickr, I¡¯m not sure if I should be?? Is it free?
? ? I¡¯m not at all sure about ephotozine, I¡¯ve not long joined!? The only thing I can think of is to add the URL of my Profile to your favourites.? Maybe easier if I join Flickr
??? ? What can you and the group tell me about Flickr, please? ? Many thanks
Bob ? ? Sent from for Windows ?
? Bob are you on Flickr? and how do I follow you on photoezine?
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Hi Jon
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The process you describe is how RAW or in the case of Nikon NEF files work.? Very basically, the RAW file is just data with no adjustments whatsoever ¨C it¡¯s data straight
off the camera sensor.
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You are correct, any adjustments made to the RAW file are saved in a separate, small file which is referenced when you open the file again.? Naturally you can save different
versions and use a different name as with other formats.
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RAW files are lossless unlike some other formats in common usage.
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I hope that helps
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Bob
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PS ¨C I shoot NEF and jpg at the same time so that I have something quickly available without having to spend time processing the image in the RAW [NEF] file..
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Sent: 03 April 2023 20:09
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As I understand it, Lightroom just saves adjustments in a small file. When you export it then it creates an image file with the adjustments made. This way you can still have the original image for adjustments down the road.?
Others with more experience may correct me.
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Both shots were handheld, it was the D7200 but the exif data was not on the image, is this what happens when you use tubes? I had only just got the tubes so I was trying to see what they would do. 1 question, when you play with an image
in lightroom does it save all of the changes and overwrite the image or does it save a copy of the changed image?
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Roy
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Scott, you¡¯re the expert on this type of photography, seriously. ?I think you¡¯ve just convinced me that I need a ring flash. ?Can you give us an example of what you¡¯re using? ?My focus isn¡¯t bugs, and in thinking about how they¡¯re moving creatures, my advice was horrible.?
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:18 PM, Scott Ditzel via groups.io <scottditzel@...> wrote:
Using tubes or a manual focus lens will cause the EXIF data to not show. With your camera, a manual focus lens's info can be entered into the menu system so that it shows. Lightroom saves a copy of the Raw file that has all your adjustments. As for the people on here using tripods and focus rails for their macro, I use neither. After a while, one can judge when what one wants in focus. While I don't use a tripod or focus rail? (except when stacking) I do use a ring flash and it allows me to stop down the aperture so as to maximize the depth of focus. Diffraction is minimal in most cases (depending on how much the image is enlarged). The only negative of a ring flash is that shiny exoskeletons will reflect light resulting in "hot spots"
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nPixDU][img]https://live.staticflickr.com/5192/14318790826_026734f0af_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/nPixDU]Ladybug Killer[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/]Scott[/url], on Flickr
Scott http://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 02:56:43 PM EDT, zigmonde1 via groups.io <zigmonde1@...> wrote:
Both shots were handheld, it was the D7200 but the exif data was not on the image, is this what happens when you use tubes? I had only just got the tubes so I was trying to see what they would do. 1 question, when you play with an image in lightroom does it save all of the changes and overwrite the image or does it save a copy of the changed image?
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Kind Regards
Roy
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Bob
I just noticed that your email is a uk address, is that right?
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Kind Regards
Roy
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Your upload speed is only 400K? Wow ... that'll take a long time for you to upload photos to any site.?
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:25?PM RobO < R_Offer@...> wrote:
Hi Roy
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Many thanks for your reply and comments about Flickr.? It certainly sounds good.? I¡¯ll have a look into setting up an account, it may take a couple of days ~ I have to
get a stack of outdoor jobs done whilst the weather is fine.
?
I guess the account will be a 5min job, the photos may take a while longer ~ here in the countryside, we¡¯re lucky to squeeze 2Mbps from our internet download, the upload
is around 0.4Mbps
?
I¡¯ll keep you posted when I get set up, and thanks very much for your interest in my photos and pointing me to Flickr.
?
With my best wishes
Bob
?
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Sent from for Windows
?
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Hello Bob
It is free up to 1000 images, you can publish straight from Lightroom which I think tells others what camera you were using and the exif data, quite good if you need help with an image, not that I think you need a lot of help and seems quite quick at getting
images in from Lightroom, that said I have only been using it for a week, I will however pay the upgrade price when the time comes.
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Kind Regards
Roy
-- Mike. Leone, <mailto: turgon@...> PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Photo Gallery: <>
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Thank you, I hadn¡¯t found that one!
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I look forward to catching up, Flickr or ephotozine.? Maybe I¡¯ll move over to Flickr if most of the group are on Flickr?
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Kind regards
Bob
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Hello Bob
I have just followed you on photoezine, amazingly there was a little blue box that said follow, I must be getting better because I did not need the groups help on this one.
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Roy
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That is quite remakable Scott,
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Roy
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Hi Roy
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Many thanks for your reply and comments about Flickr.? It certainly sounds good.? I¡¯ll have a look into setting up an account, it may take a couple of days ~ I have to
get a stack of outdoor jobs done whilst the weather is fine.
?
I guess the account will be a 5min job, the photos may take a while longer ~ here in the countryside, we¡¯re lucky to squeeze 2Mbps from our internet download, the upload
is around 0.4Mbps
?
I¡¯ll keep you posted when I get set up, and thanks very much for your interest in my photos and pointing me to Flickr.
?
With my best wishes
Bob
?
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From: zigmonde1 via groups.io
Sent: 03 April 2023 20:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Nikon-DSLR] A small selection of photo's
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Hello Bob
It is free up to 1000 images, you can publish straight from Lightroom which I think tells others what camera you were using and the exif data, quite good if you need help with an image, not that I think you need a lot of help and seems quite quick at getting
images in from Lightroom, that said I have only been using it for a week, I will however pay the upgrade price when the time comes.
--
Kind Regards
Roy
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Hello Bob
I have just followed you on photoezine, amazingly there was a little blue box that said follow, I must be getting better because I did not need the groups help on this one.
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Kind Regards
Roy
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Sorry, I did the wrong link...
Scott http://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 03:18:44 PM EDT, Scott Ditzel <scottditzel@...> wrote:
Using tubes or a manual focus lens will cause the EXIF data to not show. With your camera, a manual focus lens's info can be entered into the menu system so that it shows. Lightroom saves a copy of the Raw file that has all your adjustments. As for the people on here using tripods and focus rails for their macro, I use neither. After a while, one can judge when what one wants in focus. While I don't use a tripod or focus rail? (except when stacking) I do use a ring flash and it allows me to stop down the aperture so as to maximize the depth of focus. Diffraction is minimal in most cases (depending on how much the image is enlarged). The only negative of a ring flash is that shiny exoskeletons will reflect light resulting in "hot spots"
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nPixDU][img]https://live.staticflickr.com/5192/14318790826_026734f0af_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/nPixDU]Ladybug Killer[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/]Scott[/url], on Flickr
Scott http://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 02:56:43 PM EDT, zigmonde1 via groups.io <zigmonde1@...> wrote:
Both shots were handheld, it was the D7200 but the exif data was not on the image, is this what happens when you use tubes? I had only just got the tubes so I was trying to see what they would do. 1 question, when you play with an image in lightroom does it save all of the changes and overwrite the image or does it save a copy of the changed image?
--
Kind Regards
Roy
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Using tubes or a manual focus lens will cause the EXIF data to not show. With your camera, a manual focus lens's info can be entered into the menu system so that it shows. Lightroom saves a copy of the Raw file that has all your adjustments. As for the people on here using tripods and focus rails for their macro, I use neither. After a while, one can judge when what one wants in focus. While I don't use a tripod or focus rail? (except when stacking) I do use a ring flash and it allows me to stop down the aperture so as to maximize the depth of focus. Diffraction is minimal in most cases (depending on how much the image is enlarged). The only negative of a ring flash is that shiny exoskeletons will reflect light resulting in "hot spots"
[url=https://flic.kr/p/nPixDU][img]https://live.staticflickr.com/5192/14318790826_026734f0af_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/nPixDU]Ladybug Killer[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/]Scott[/url], on Flickr
Scott http://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/
On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 02:56:43 PM EDT, zigmonde1 via groups.io <zigmonde1@...> wrote:
Both shots were handheld, it was the D7200 but the exif data was not on the image, is this what happens when you use tubes? I had only just got the tubes so I was trying to see what they would do. 1 question, when you play with an image in lightroom does it save all of the changes and overwrite the image or does it save a copy of the changed image?
--
Kind Regards
Roy
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As I understand it, Lightroom just saves adjustments in a small file. When you export it then it creates an image file with the adjustments made. This way you can still have the original image for adjustments down the road.?
Others with more experience may correct me.
Jon
Both shots were handheld, it was the D7200 but the exif data was not on the image, is this what happens when you use tubes? I had only just got the tubes so I was trying to see what they would do. 1 question, when you play with an image in lightroom does it save all of the changes and overwrite the image or does it save a copy of the changed image?
--
Kind Regards
Roy
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Hello Bob
It is free up to 1000 images, you can publish straight from Lightroom which I think tells others what camera you were using and the exif data, quite good if you need help with an image, not that I think you need a lot of help and seems quite quick at getting images in from Lightroom, that said I have only been using it for a week, I will however pay the upgrade price when the time comes.
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Kind Regards
Roy
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RobO