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Re: mach 4 and ess - motor tuning

 

i did all that and rebooted several times will try again right now still the same. there are no buttons to click and i clicked everywhere. i looked everywhere in config for something missing but could not find it. i am going to go over the ess manual one more time and see if i left out a step

On 3/27/2021 10:09 AM, Steve Stallings wrote:
The motor tuning page requires that you not only check the enabled motors in the right column, but you also have to click on the
Motor0, or whatever, so that it highlights blue, and then the parameter blocks will be editable and the graph will function for that
motor.


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth
the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need
to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to
mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked
and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i
think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which
means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube.
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not
have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to
download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309









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67550 Bell Springs Rd.
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Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


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Re: mach 4 and ess

 

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the problem is that i printed out the 51 pages of instructions because i like to keep the shop machine offline.

i went through every step necessary for a basic configuration? i did not bother with custom stuff yet but looked at the possibilities

i found a video that addresses the keyboard? and hotkeys

so my only problem is that i can not set the motor steps speed etc. the entry boxes are greyed out no matter what i do with checkboxes

On 3/27/2021 5:06 AM, Tom Hesselman wrote:

Also, Andy at Warp9 provides the absolute BEST support in this segment. He WILL get you going. Forum there first, then he will Teamviewer in to your computer if he has to to get you going. That said, following the steps right down the line in the link provided, should get you going. The absolute biggest obstacle with Mach4 is thinking it's Mach3, it ain't, trust me.

Mach 4 is SOOooo.... much better than Mach3 at running the machine and getting customized that it's actually stunning. Keep at it. The end result is worth it.

Tom

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 9:36 PM spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered

On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:
Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube. 
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


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Re: mach 4 and ess - motor tuning

 

The motor tuning page requires that you not only check the enabled motors in the right column, but you also have to click on the
Motor0, or whatever, so that it highlights blue, and then the parameter blocks will be editable and the graph will function for that
motor.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth
the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need
to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to
mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked
and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i
think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which
means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube.
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not
have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to
download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309


Re: mach 4 and ess

 

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I’d check my install for you and see if I can figure out where you are going wrong, but my electric has been out since last night around 5:30, and the machine is not on a generator circuit.

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It is a little confusing since you need to set up both pins and signals separately in ESS config, and also need to set things up in Mach4 config. It always takes me a minute or two to figure out what’s up when I need to change or check something in the setup.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

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Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered

On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:

Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube.
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309

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Re: Mach4 Coil Winder Screen

 

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Hi Brian, it’s been a couple of months again-do you know if there has been any progress on this?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Coil Winder Screen

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They guys should have been testing it...

I will hit them again for a status.. Sorry they have been using it as fill in work.

Thanks
Brian

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Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage: 

On 11/30/2020 11:44 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

Brian, any movement on this?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Hey, man, any word?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Good question! Let me talk to the guys. This slipped my mind. I am getting old or something :)

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ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
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Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage: 

On 9/1/2020 10:11 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

Hey, Brian, has there been any progress on the Coil Winder screens?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 1:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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I don't know how long the coil winder is going to take but Brett seems to think the press brake tables should be ready for testing in a few days. Coil winder is after that. Rob got the screen done so it is just the Lua code to make the Gcode files to drive the winder.

On 7/6/2020 12:57 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

Thanks, Brian-I’m good for now.

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I’ll nag you about the Coil Winder and the Spindle speed thing in a couple of weeks.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Rob is on the floor now working on the laser we are putting new motors and drives in :( We are juggling a TON right now. If you seem to be all set lets roll with it. We are trying hard to get a new Rev out and I think it will fix most issues.


On 7/6/2020 11:03 AM, Andy Wander wrote:

Thanks, Brian-no big rush on the coil winder, I just don’t want to forget about it.

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I tested the Turn Cycles yesterday evening and they are all working now as well.

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Do the only problem I now have is #4, the Spindle Speed being reset when I first press ENABL after starting Mach4.

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I got an email from Rob this morning, and I tried to call him, but I just got a message telling me your hours, and then some music.

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I don’t know if we really need to talk, though, since ESS 258 and Mach4 4517 seem to have solved almost all of my problems.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Hi Andy,
1. I have Brett working on a screen for an OEM and it is taking a bit more time than I would like :( When that is done he will go over what Rob has and building a release.

2. Rob had a setup to test the ESS on the machine by his desk Friday. I didn't know he didn't get back to you, sorry about that. I have informed him of your progress.

3. Check the mill manual, I have someone going over the manual and checking them for the next release. Attached you will find a section of header file, look at that and tell me what you think (start at line number 2113)

4. I don't fully understand why you would want to have the Spindle Speed at start up but lets do that after the rest of this is done please :)

Thanks
Brian


On 7/5/2020 3:45 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

Hi Brian:

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1_ Has there been any progress on that Coil Winder Screen?

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2_ I didn’t hear from Rob, but I wanted to report that most of my issues appear to have been solved by ESS v258 along with Mach4 4517. I still need to confirm that the issue with the Turn Cycles getting locked out is solved; haven’t had a chance to test that….

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3_ Is there an accurate list anywhere of the Pound Variables for Mach4? I have only been able to find one dated 2015 by Scott Shafer, and I know that at least one of the variables in there is wrong…..

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4_ I’ve got the issues with Mach4 not remembering spindle speed and such between shutting down and restart solved. I took the code that wrote the saved values on startup, out of the Startup Script, and put it in the “first-Run only” section of the PLC code. This seems to work fine, EXCEPT that when I hit ENABLE for the first time after startup, it overwrites the correct value that has been put into the S DRO by the PLC script, and sets it to 0. This only happens the first time I ENABLE MACH4, after that, if I set a value for S, it stays there through DISSABLE/ENABLE cycles. Any idea on what to look for? I couldn’t find anything in any of the screen scripts that does anything to the S word on ENABLE, or any place that treats ENABLE differently on the first time it is pressed after startup

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Rob is done the first round of getting machines ready for release testing so I have told him today is your test of turn. He may be contacting you... As for the coil winder screen Rob got most of that done before his return back to work. I was going to have Brett continue on with this as soon as he is done the bending software I have him doing. We have lots of projects we are working on so thanks for asking about the progress!

Thanks
Brian



On 6/28/2020 4:35 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

Hi Brian:

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Did they get anywhere with the coil winder screen?

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What about this weird problem with the Turn Cycles? (they sure are great, when they work!)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Hi Brian-new update:

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I was able to finish the part I was working on, but I started getting FIFO Velocity Buffer underrun errors from the ESS.

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Then, the ESS started randomly going offline without telling me.

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I reverted to ESS v254, and Mach4 V4.2.0.4322, and these problems went away(the FIFO and the ESS going offline.)

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I made a couple more parts using Late today, and everything was working fine, using the Turn Cycles for Facing, Turning, and Threading.

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Then I tried a Rounding operation using Turn Cycles.

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The Gcode looked OK, so I ran it, and it did all the roughing cuts about ?” out from the end of the stock, without actually cutting anything-then it moved in to where it should have been and did the single finishing cut, taking off all of the stock that should have been done during roughing.

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I attached a screen shot of the Mach toolpath window, as well as the .tap file for the Rounding operation.

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I “may” have entered an incorrect setting in the Turn cycle entry screen, but when I went to check, I cannot get the saved cycle to open for editing, and I can’t get any of the Turn cycles to open when clicking on their buttons. I get a message that says,

Unable to show wizard 4: wxLua: Expected a 'wxColour' for parameter 2, but got a 'nil'.

Function called: 'SetBackgroundColour(wxButton, nil)'

  1. wxWindow::SetBackgroundColour(wxWindow(self), wxColour)

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I’ve tried closing and reopening Mach4, and also reinstalling Mach4, and I still can’t get at any of the Turn Cycles.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 8:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Hi Andy,
This is a step in the right direction! We have a few more machines we need to get working so we can get to the testing of the next release testing. We have the Matsuura 500 and the plasma table we need to get ready. The goal is to have them both finished this week so we can start testing Friday. This is when we will setup and test the ESS.

Thanks for the report
?Brian

On 6/13/2020 3:16 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

Hi Brian:

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I have some more info and results on the threading cycle not working.

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Today, I backed up my current installation, and installed ESS v257, and Mach4 4.2.0.4517

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I needed to make a part that had a couple of different diameters, and an external M14 thread at each end.

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The turning was uneventful, but when I used the Turn Cycles screen to generate code for the first M14 thread, and tried to run it, it hung up on the G76 line just as the Internal thread had been doing earlier! Then, I realized that I had accidentally generated code for an Internal thread, but, this time, it was different, as the actual Spindle Speed display on the screen was very intermittent, usually staying at “0”, but occasionally flashing the actual measured RPM. This didn’t happen with the installation that I originally reported this problem on.

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So, I thought maybe my lathe Spindle Speed sensor had gotten damaged or something. At this point, I set the machine back to in/min mode, and started the spindle up, and the on-screen Spindle Speed display worked perfectly. Going back into the threading cycle, and in/rev mode, the display was wonky again.

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Then, I remembered that the release notes for the ESS v257 plugin had mentioned something about a new check box to tell the ESS whether or not to report the spindle speed. I found that check box in the ESS setup, and unchecked it. Testing showed the same problem still remained.

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I then looked at the Spindle setting on the ESS setup page, and changed it from PWM to “OB”.

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That did it, the threading cycle now works, whether ID or OD threading.

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I still have the smaller problem of the spindle making the CLUNK when it gets turned on again while it is already on. I went into config and disabled the Spindle ON, Spindle FWD and Spindle REV pins in Mach4. This stuff was all in there because I never disabled it when I went to my Modbus controlled s[pindle. Alas, this made no difference, I still get the Clunk…

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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They are working on a coil winder screen and have the first part of it done.

They did a bunch of testing and could not make your issue happen. We have just started working back at the office where we have all the hardware for testing. We are getting the machines ready for release testing now and one of the things that will be tested is your issue. We are doing the best we can in this screwy time.

Thanks
Brian

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On 6/11/2020 8:07 AM, Andy Wander wrote:

Hi Brian:

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Have you had a chance to work on this?

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Also any? progress on the coil winder screenset?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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That may be from my PLC script. I am interrogating the Modbus MPG register on my pendant.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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Do you have any idea what is spamming for the MPG? I don't think this is causing you an issue, it is just bad practice and I would like to eliminate as many vars as I can. I was going to see if I could clean the profile and figure this out! I have a few things going on but I am trying to get this done as quickly as I can.
Thanks
Brian


On 6/3/2020 12:46 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

I used to use relays and PWM to control my spindle, but now I use the Modbus plugin.

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I think that I left the relay/PWM config alone, and just added the modbus stuff. So Mack4 may be sending controls for both methods.

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Pretty sure I disconnected the relays and PWM/0-10V from the VFD though. I will check that in a bit.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 12:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 Lathe-G76 and Turn Cycles

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I need your profile please. I don't understand what is firing output #54 I think I am getting a better idea what is going on!

Thanks
Brian


n 6/3/2020 11:09 AM, Andy Wander wrote:

Hi Brian:

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The logging window is confusing because the SAVE button is at the bottom, but there is also a “log to file” button up at the top. What does that top button do?

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I don’t think this can be a hardware issue, as external threading code from the Turn Cycle works fine every time.

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Also, yesterday, after I STOPped an unworking internal threading program, I came back a few hours later, rewound and ran the same code, and it worked! Just once though, after that it would hang on the 2nd G76 line uust like before.

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Attached is a log file; can you? see anything strange in there?

Attachments:

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Re: mach 4 and ess

 

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Spencer,

I need to be at my desk for a bit later today and I am more than happy to go over this with you.and get it setup. I know you have been doing this for a long time and I know you shouldn't have any trouble. I would like to know if we can do anything to make it better.


Thanks

Brian

______________________________

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Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage: 
On 3/26/2021 10:35 PM, spencer@... wrote:

Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered

On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:
Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube. 
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

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Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
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Funny, you said sticky keys was “some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants”.

?

Huh.

?

“No, no, some of my best friends are…”

?

I’d rather Microsoft focus on that rather than cater to the handful of dumb-arses trying to run CNC on Windows.? Imagine going to a major CNC manufacturer and asking for a Win10 version, the look they’d give you would be implying that your IQ just managed to crawl out of the freezer.

?

There are plenty of cheap dedicated CNC controls these days, buy one and get on with life.? I did.? (Smoothieware boards for the 3D printer, laser, mill & lathe if anyone cares.)

?

I gave up on Mach after a discussion with the developers who didn’t understand why installing into C:\Mach4 wasn’t the brightest of ideas; that showed they didn’t really get how Windows works.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 5:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

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i am all in favor of support of the greatest variety of users. i forget what microsoft call it but features for people with different needs get my full support. just don't make them the default. "handicapped" people are more resourceful than non "handicapped" people (by necessity) and can certainly find what they need if these features are made available to them

I have been making machines for blind people to use because the company i work for hires "handicapped" people. I find it very rewarding to get to understand the perspective and needs of a person that are very different from mine. My last project was a bobbin winding machine that talks. It is still being used by sighted people but I will soon get feedback as to whether I did a good job or not.

To me, the joy of being a human being is that we are all different and can enjoy and benefit from these differences.

On 3/26/2021 11:28 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

You may not want, but some do.? The disabled can just sod off I guess, how dare they try to use computers like us normals.

?

Tony

?

(Computer bloat is defined as the stuff I’ve no use for.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 4:36 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

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thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.

-- 
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67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
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Re: mach 4 and ess

 

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My Mill, lathe and CNC router table are all still running M3 on XP machines. I can't say I've ever had a hiccup of any kind. Then again as an electronics design engineer to begin with, all my wiring , controller layouts and etc are well built, shielded, and I know precisely how every I/O, pinout, software stub etc works.

I'm sure these older boxes will croak sooner or later and will have to seriously consider M4 at some point. I'm hoping i can skip a gen and next update of my toys will be M5.?? :-)

I spent 35+ years in a previous life as a factory manufacturing and Test automation systems design engineer, so building up a Mach controlled infrastructure was dirt simple for me. Mod'ed screen layouts, adding macros behind extra screen buttons, and most of all., extra screen prompts to control the biggest error mechanism... that analog computer between the operators eye balls and the keyboard.?? :-)

The evolution of Windows over the years has indeed wrecked havoc on many situations. As some mentioned, think how much work corporate insistence on updating (to retain support) their Win environment effects 100's of automated robotic factory and office systems and procedures.

These days I work mostly with massive high performance computers. AI and machine learning. It has only fortified my understanding that computers are DUMB machines. There is no such thing as AI. It's just a different decision tree flow. Computers are only as smart as the programmer that taught them. AI is also even showing effects of human bigotry and racism. (learning models grab the most common idioms of the day) you can see the 'loss of discretion' in most any google search in the results returned??? the loss of human compassion for one another.

Why do they update windows? They need a product to sell. ...can't stay in business it you're not selling something to support expansion. Why all the updates?? Fixing the bugs and flat programming errors from the original releases. Still blows my mind today...software is the only product in the world you buy but don't own. If it doesn't work you can't return it, and you're not allowed to fix it yourself.
why add the features back? in-situ users are not the bulk of the sales. The younger generations using computers suck up on all the bells and whistles and just view it as 'that's the way it is' and 'it'll get fixed soon enough' mentality.

sorry... stepping down of the soap box ....

ptegler

On 3/27/2021 8:06 AM, Tom Hesselman wrote:

Also, Andy at Warp9 provides the absolute BEST support in this segment. He WILL get you going. Forum there first, then he will Teamviewer in to your computer if he has to to get you going. That said, following the steps right down the line in the link provided, should get you going. The absolute biggest obstacle with Mach4 is thinking it's Mach3, it ain't, trust me.

Mach 4 is SOOooo.... much better than Mach3 at running the machine and getting customized that it's actually stunning. Keep at it. The end result is worth it.

Tom

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 9:36 PM spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered

On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:
Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube. 
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


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Re: help with customizations ?

 

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Learn to use Regedit.

You can script things and then create desktop shortcuts to blow out and rearrange things as desired.
...has worked for me years. Getting rid of Library views, repeat drive displays via wow64?? etc Even disabling Cortona, xbox etc

ptegler

On 3/27/2021 2:07 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:

The reality is the change from WIN-XP to WIN-VISTA cost the world millions of dollars in lost productivity. ?The next good OS was WIN-7.? The cost to change WIN-10 might well tally in the billions.? For me, new versions of software that will run on WIN-10 but no longer run on the now discontinued unsupported WIN-7 tally close to $10K.? For no apparent benefit.

?

For example.? I have support for a few more months for RAD Studio Delphi and C++. Version 10.3 runs on WIN-7. ?But 10.4 and the new 10.4.2 won't.?? So my support is worthless for my WIN-7 system.? My WIN-10 runs it but it keeps updating with newer WIN-10 versions installing stuff I've removed.? And I won't even begin to talk about cloud stuff.

?

So be aware, you may remove that repeat key feature but on the next update it will be back.

?

John

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: March-26-21 10:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

?

thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...

        

        
(425) 791-0309
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Re: mach 4 and ess

 


Also, Andy at Warp9 provides the absolute BEST support in this segment. He WILL get you going. Forum there first, then he will Teamviewer in to your computer if he has to to get you going. That said, following the steps right down the line in the link provided, should get you going. The absolute biggest obstacle with Mach4 is thinking it's Mach3, it ain't, trust me.

Mach 4 is SOOooo.... much better than Mach3 at running the machine and getting customized that it's actually stunning. Keep at it. The end result is worth it.

Tom


On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 9:36 PM spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered

On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:
Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube.
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


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i am all in favor of support of the greatest variety of users. i forget what microsoft call it but features for people with different needs get my full support. just don't make them the default. "handicapped" people are more resourceful than non "handicapped" people (by necessity) and can certainly find what they need if these features are made available to them

I have been making machines for blind people to use because the company i work for hires "handicapped" people. I find it very rewarding to get to understand the perspective and needs of a person that are very different from mine. My last project was a bobbin winding machine that talks. It is still being used by sighted people but I will soon get feedback as to whether I did a good job or not.

To me, the joy of being a human being is that we are all different and can enjoy and benefit from these differences.

On 3/26/2021 11:28 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

You may not want, but some do.? The disabled can just sod off I guess, how dare they try to use computers like us normals.

?

Tony

?

(Computer bloat is defined as the stuff I’ve no use for.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 4:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

?

thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...

        

        
(425) 791-0309
-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309


Re: help with customizations ?

 

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i sure understand, i am an old guy programming since the 70s. other than a little C forced by programming arduinos, i have not learned much in the last 10 years. i have written literally hundreds of programs that i fortunately and just by plain luck relied on a system that supported all the fucking changes foisted on us by microsoft. i share these programs mainly with fellow music collectors of a particular type. i have done (don't laugh) virtually all of my programming in Perl which has an amazing number of open source packages. i use a tool that packages my perl scripts along with the perl interpreter into an exe that will run on virtually any PC. support is gone but all my programs still work and if i keep the old IDE working (it works on win 10 64 bit) and don't try to update anything it all still works. when it stops i will have to abandon support for 99% of my "customers" microsoft has threatened to stop allowing these exes to run but hasn't if they do there will always be perl (it is still used extensively on servers for all sorts of utility functions) but users will have to do a lot more work than running an exe.

my programs still run on xp through win 10, just by luck.

i will die before i write a cloud app but i am doing some wifi web shit because people want to control my arduino programs from their phone?

once i got mach3 "working" i never updated anything windows drivers etc unless forced to.

if the bit breaking is really just because smart key or whatever the fuck it is i will probably not switch to mach4 although learning how to get if sort of working might be useful when win 11 doesn't support mach3 anymore :) i am rapidly losing my ability to program because i am dealing with stage 4 cancer and some heavy duty drugs that really mess with my attention. that is why i asked for help with customizations. things that used to be real easy are a challenge now but i refuse to take to the couch and give up. i always joked that i would write a boot time program that if i could not pass the test would shoot me in the head. might be time to take that seriously.

my machine computers are offline and stripped to the core. every unnecessary (that is more difficult to figure out with win 10) service is disabled and there is nothing at all in startup. still apply a lot of the suggestions in the old mach3 guide as to how to set up your computer.

On 3/26/2021 11:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

The reality is the change from WIN-XP to WIN-VISTA cost the world millions of dollars in lost productivity. ?The next good OS was WIN-7.? The cost to change WIN-10 might well tally in the billions.? For me, new versions of software that will run on WIN-10 but no longer run on the now discontinued unsupported WIN-7 tally close to $10K.? For no apparent benefit.

?

For example.? I have support for a few more months for RAD Studio Delphi and C++. Version 10.3 runs on WIN-7. ?But 10.4 and the new 10.4.2 won't.?? So my support is worthless for my WIN-7 system.? My WIN-10 runs it but it keeps updating with newer WIN-10 versions installing stuff I've removed.? And I won't even begin to talk about cloud stuff.

?

So be aware, you may remove that repeat key feature but on the next update it will be back.

?

John

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: March-26-21 10:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

?

thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...

        

        
(425) 791-0309
-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309


Re: help with customizations ?

 

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You may not want, but some do.? The disabled can just sod off I guess, how dare they try to use computers like us normals.

?

Tony

?

(Computer bloat is defined as the stuff I’ve no use for.)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 4:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

?

thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309


Re: help with customizations ?

 

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The reality is the change from WIN-XP to WIN-VISTA cost the world millions of dollars in lost productivity. ?The next good OS was WIN-7.? The cost to change WIN-10 might well tally in the billions.? For me, new versions of software that will run on WIN-10 but no longer run on the now discontinued unsupported WIN-7 tally close to $10K.? For no apparent benefit.

?

For example.? I have support for a few more months for RAD Studio Delphi and C++. Version 10.3 runs on WIN-7. ?But 10.4 and the new 10.4.2 won't.?? So my support is worthless for my WIN-7 system.? My WIN-10 runs it but it keeps updating with newer WIN-10 versions installing stuff I've removed.? And I won't even begin to talk about cloud stuff.

?

So be aware, you may remove that repeat key feature but on the next update it will be back.

?

John

?

?

?

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: March-26-21 10:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

?

thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309


Re: help with customizations ?

 

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thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer?

On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:
Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.
-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309


Re: help with customizations ?

 

Windows Sticky Keys
Disable it permanently
If you hold shift key long enough, keystrokes repeat,
even when you let go.


Re: mach 4 and ess

 

Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered


On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:
Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube.
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


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Re: mach 4 and ess

 

Spencer:

Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site?

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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM
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Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess

I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess.

two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things.

i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort.

I CAN NOT GET MOTOR TUNING TO WORK. i have all pins assigned etc and i can run a test gcode but the steps are totally wrong and need to be changed. in the appropriate place (something like config control motors) i have the familiar motor tuning screen similar to mach3. however the steps speed and accel are greyed out and i can not enter anything. by default all motor checkboxes were checked and i unchecked and checked until i was exhausted. nothing i could do would let me enter the values.

also i can not find anywhere where hotkeys are assigned. i found a tutorial you tube by a woman who sounds very authoritative so i think i might have found the answer but i have viasat internet and videos are blurry pixels at anything other than high res which means i have to wait weeks for vids to load. this is why i seriously shy away from youtube.
we are in the list for starlink and hope to get it soon so we will be in the 20th or is that 21st century like everyone else.

with all the fabulous improvements WTF can't there be a downloadable pdf worth shit? i have a great manual for mach3 and did not have many problems installing or using it other than a few here and there and the bugs which have prompted me to try mach4.

so maybe hotkeys and other kule keyboard stuff will be explained buy the very confident sounding woman if i live long enough to download the high res video

however trying to find out why motor tuning is greyed out could take me into the next century trying to find the answer.

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Re: help with customizations ?

 

What is too high and what if any are the implications of a lower kernel speed?


On March 26, 2021 6:43:05 PM PDT, shadowairport1 <dclifton2@...> wrote:
Is it possible that you have the Kernel speed HZ set to high?

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so why are we the only lucky ones. i have broken two $20 new router bits so far.

On 3/26/2021 1:24 PM, Jim Guthrie wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:59:56 -0700, you wrote:

the most annoying thing is that when jogging with the keyboard i use
small steps with a single click of the hotkey for an axis and use
shift to do a fast move. not very often but occasionally the machine
just runs totallyout of control in the jog direction and breaks a
carbide bit. i have changed keyboards and am pretty sure it is not a
sticky key. will try yet another one.
I have the same problem since I fitted ESS a month or two ago to my
Mach3 setup. It happens when I use the high speed jog (Shift Up,Down, Left,
Right,PgUp, PgDn). So far it has only happened on the X axis. I thought
it might be something like a buffer over-run since it only seemed to happen
when I was doing a longish jog. I reduced the repeat key speed on my
keyboard to the lowest setting but it still happens on occasion.
Thankfully so far no damage has been done since EStop and the limit
switches still operate and it normally happens when I'm setting things up when the cutter
is raised above the work. I've dug around a bit on the Internet to see if
someone else has the same problem, but no luck so far.

Jim.





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Re: help with customizations ?

 

What is too high and what if any are the implications of a lower kernel speed?


On March 26, 2021 6:43:05 PM PDT, shadowairport1 <dclifton2@...> wrote:
Is it possible that you have the Kernel speed HZ set to high?

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Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ?

so why are we the only lucky ones. i have broken two $20 new router bits so far.

On 3/26/2021 1:24 PM, Jim Guthrie wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:59:56 -0700, you wrote:

the most annoying thing is that when jogging with the keyboard i use
small steps with a single click of the hotkey for an axis and use
shift to do a fast move. not very often but occasionally the machine
just runs totallyout of control in the jog direction and breaks a
carbide bit. i have changed keyboards and am pretty sure it is not a
sticky key. will try yet another one.
I have the same problem since I fitted ESS a month or two ago to my
Mach3 setup. It happens when I use the high speed jog (Shift Up,Down, Left,
Right,PgUp, PgDn). So far it has only happened on the X axis. I thought
it might be something like a buffer over-run since it only seemed to happen
when I was doing a longish jog. I reduced the repeat key speed on my
keyboard to the lowest setting but it still happens on occasion.
Thankfully so far no damage has been done since EStop and the limit
switches still operate and it normally happens when I'm setting things up when the cutter
is raised above the work. I've dug around a bit on the Internet to see if
someone else has the same problem, but no luck so far.

Jim.





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