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Cindi Gibson
Hi All!
I know this is slighly off topic. I came across a picture and I think it might have a relative on it that i can search down for my family history in Poland and Siberia. Could someone translate for me? The photo reads W mieszkaniu Banasiow podczas zabowy moich(or k) urodziu. Jestem ja i Panstwo Kaczmarczyk ( which i know is the last name Kaczmarczyk) Thank you in advance. Cindi Gibson _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: |
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Re: Off the Wall.......opinion welcome
Thanks John
I thought that the pages might be getting a bit political but after having a few mates look at them they confirmed what I thought the pages are truthful and to the point and shouldn't change Paul At 23:09 01/11/2002 +0000, you wrote: Paul
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Re: First Message
chrisgladun
Hi Gary,
Our fathers shared similar routes in WWII. My father's diary lists Predapio Alta, Predapio Nuovo, and other places in Italy, and I was able to trace his army route in Italy. It is quite likely that you will find names, locations, battles, and general experiences in his diary that apply to your father, not just in Italy, but Poland, the USSR and Middle East. I hope "A Katyn & World War Two Diary" will be of help to you: Indeed many Poles had to agree to work for two years on arrival in Canada--often in conditions that could only be described as forced labour. As well they had to agree, upon threat of deportation, not to engage in "propaganda" (that is talking about Katyn, Soviet crimes etc). If you need any translations please contact me. Chris Gladun, Toronto |
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Re: New releases on DVD
John Nieurzyla
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These are both available from the company that is linked on the 2nd line down, I have used this company now for 3 years and never had a problem, and the prices are always reasonable. Best wishes John ----- Uprising (WB) - USD$18.95 (Due: 0000-00-00) 2001 (TV). Hank Azaria, Cary Elwes, Stephen Moyer, David Schwimmer, Lee.. After Germany invades Poland in 1939, the Nazis decree that 350,000 Warsaw Jews be forcibly moved into a cordoned area known as the Warsaw Ghetto. Idealistic teacher Mordechai Anielewicz (Hank Azaria) decides the Jews must rise up against the Nazis and creates the Jewish Fig * 2 Documentaries: Resistance and Breaking Down The Walls: The Road To Recreating The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising * 2 Audio Commentaries: One with Director Co-Writer Jon Avnet and the Other with Stars Hank Azaria David Schwimmer Leelee Sobieski and Jon Voight * Cast Crew Film Highlights * 2 Trailers * DVD-ROM: Web Events and Web Site Chat Room Access ----- Come And See (Kino) - USD$26.95 (Due: 0000-00-00) 1985. Alexei Kravchenko, Lubomiras Lauciavicius, Olga Mironova.. When young Florya willingly joins a group of Partisans fighting the Nazis in Byelorussia, USSR, he little suspects that he is plunging through the looking glass. Separated from his comrades during a paratroop attack and struck deaf by German artillery, Florya--in the company * Two photo galleries of production stills * Filmographies * Subtitled in 13 different languages * Cast and crew interviews * Archive materials: 'Partisans In Belarus' and 'Nazis Brutalities'
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Gary's Medals
henrysokolowski
Gary,
Your father's four medals are listed twice, first in Polish: Br.K.Z.zM = Brazowy Krzyz Zaslugi z Mieczami (Polish) K.M.C. = Krzyz Monte Cassino (Polish Commemorative) G.W. 1939/45 = Gwiazda za Wojne 1939/45 (British) G.IT = Gwiazda Italii (British) then in English: B.C.M.S. = Bronze Cross of Merit with Swords C. Monte Cas. = Monte Cassino Cross The 1939/45 Star = The 1939/45 Star IT Star = The Italy Star To learn more, go to Henry |
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Polish Committee of the "Memorial" Society
Elizabeth Olsson
Just a few words about the above:
I recently wrote to Alexander Gur'yanov asking for information in their database "Polish citizens deported to Arkhangelsk region (1940-1941). Aklexander wrote back within 2 days with exactly the information we wanted. He was very helpful, written in good English, attached a letter in Polish which he did offer to translate if neccessary, and gave instructions on where to write to get copy of the documents we wanted. It felt very strange seeing my mother's family names etc on a Russian document and my mother was very moved by the reply. (She is trying to get a copy of her sister's death certificate, she died at the age of 14 on Christmas Eve 1940 in Kotlas.) "Alexander Gur'yanov" <gurpolcom@...> Many thanks to Alexander, your assistance is much appreciated. Elizabeth Olsson |
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Re: Off the Wall.......opinion welcome
John Nieurzyla
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You have to expect to get this hate mail from people whose conscience troubles them, and do not want to be reminded of their past life, but we know the truth, and I support you whole heartledly for letting it be known to the outside world, what really happened when this lot took over the world for a short time, and the madness and greed ensued. John UK Paul Havers wrote:
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New releases on DVD
John Nieurzyla
I have just been informed of imminent release of the DVD in the USA, the
documentary "The Uprising" which I believe was discussed a couple of months ago on the list, about the Warsaw uprising which was broadcast on American television only. Also being released is the film "Come and See" this film made in b/w was filmed in Belarus, and is the story of the destruction of a village and of the atrocities carried out therein during WW2. This was made in similar to Schindlers List. I have ordered my copies. John Nieurzyla Uk |
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Off the Wall.......opinion welcome
This is a bit of the wall and strays from the subject but I thought that
I'd ask others of their opinions on this subject
I was contacted by a Ukrainian descent Canadian in regards to my Kresy pages, he informed me that all the information on them was a pack of lies and fabrications also he's email leant heavily on the subject of my family "not being taken care of" in the times of WWII. Please read the Food for Thought section and kindly off the list inform me if my points are valid if you feel that the list should know your comments then I have no objections. Paul
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Re: First message
Gary
I can shine some light on a few medals and the area 1939/45 Star IT is the medal awarded to all soldiers serving within the British Armed forces on the Italian Campaign. The place of abode looks like Karlowicze powiat(district) Rogatyn, Polesie, Poland I'll see what I can find out about the remainder Paul At 03:16 01/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Hello People:
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Re: Question from Linder Stachnik
Linder
If he was in the Armed Forces than the possibility of being captured and sent to a PoW camp or a forced labour camp are very high a lot of prisoners ended up in them, later to be disposed of in the officer corps class. As to the question of being grabbed from home or a field it could have been the case that the NKVD came to the house looking for him and if he was working in the fields he could have been taken from there after not being found in his residence. It's possible that the info was extracted from the remainder of the inhabitants. He also could have been part of 'Sokoly' to which my grandfather belonged, it also depends on his age as most young men were inducted into the army between the ages of 20-22. Paul At 19:12 01/10/2002 +0000, you wrote: Dear Group,
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Odp: Check out Poland Map - 1918-1921
Wladyslaw Czapski
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Odp: Polesie map
Wladyslaw Czapski
开云体育?Polesie Today sie is near the boarder of?"Republik
Bielarus"
look ?? map Worsow rait ebaut
200 km ; 150 mil to est.
Worsow - Brzesc /Brest/ -
Minst.
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map XIV Poland to 2002
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First message
开云体育Hello People:
??? I've been a
member of this group for a few months and I never had a chance to post a
message, due to Christmas and moving, getting hooked up to the internet again,
my brand new computer was laid to rest, the hard drive died, and the list goes
on.
??? First I
just like to thank the people who thought up the idea of this web site, my
father who passed away this year would have been very proud that we think enough
of our fore fathers, that we do not let their memories
die.
??? When my
father passed away he left his medals and some personal papers to me, I was
fortunate enough that a lot of his original papers are intacted. I was hoping
that someone out there could help me with some of the information on my fathers'
Certificate of Demobilization, it is hard to understand the writing, it was
issued in "Predappio Italy on Oct. 15, 1946." I cannot find that name on the
map.??I have only four of his medals, on the same certificate on part
14 under decorations they are listed as follows,"Br.K.Z.zM., K.M.C.,
G.W.1939/45., G.IT., B.C.M.S., C.MONTE CAS., The 1939/45 STAR, IT STAR." In part
18 and 19 it states that he was demobilized from the Polish Forces abroad on
Nov. 13 1946 and transfered to Service Territorial. I'm getting a little ahead
of myself, the questions I was asking, what are the medals that are listed and
what was "Service Territorial"? And finally my dads' place of birth is listed as
"Karlowicze pawii Rohiczyn waj: Polesie Polska" and to top it off I cannot find
that on the map.
??? Looking
back and trying to imagin what my father went through by being deported to
Siberia and fighting with the British, one would think that coming to Canada
would be his first real taste of living in a free country, I thought so, until I
ran across a wallet size docuement with my dads name on it ,??it reads
"Department of Labour Canada. This is to certify that Polish Veteran?Leon
Bancarz has discharged the undertaking made with the Government of Canada to
remain in specified employment for a fixed period of time upon admission to
Canada. Dated Aug.22/49. Its signed by the minister of Labour and the Deputy
Minister, I remember that my dad told me one time that he had to work on a farm
in Quebec for two years in order to stay in Canada, my mother had to work on a
farm also she also had no choice, but in her case she was deported to Germany,
from Poland. So if anyone out there can help me? Thank
you.?
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God Bless,
Gary.??????????????????????????
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First message
开云体育Hello People:
??? I've been a
member of this group for a few months and I never had a chance to post a
message, due to Christmas and moving, getting hooked up to the internet again,
my brand new computer was laid to rest, the hard drive died, and the list goes
on.
??? First I
just like to thank the people who thought up the idea of this web site, my
father who passed away this year would have been very proud that we think enough
of our fore fathers, that we do not let their memories
die.
??? When my
father passed away he left his medals and some personal papers to me, I was
fortunate enough that a lot of his original papers are intacted. I was hoping
that someone out there could help me with some of the information on my fathers'
Certificate of Demobilization, it is hard to understand the writing, it was
issued in "Predappio Italy on Oct. 15, 1946." I cannot find that name on the
map.??I have only four of his medals, on the same certificate on part
14 under decorations they are listed as follows,"Br.K.Z.zM., K.M.C.,
G.W.1939/45., G.IT., B.C.M.S., C.MONTE CAS., The 1939/45 STAR, IT STAR." In part
18 and 19 it states that he was demobilized from the Polish Forces abroad on
Nov. 13 1946 and transfered to Service Territorial. I'm getting a little ahead
of myself, the questions I was asking, what are the medals that are listed and
what was "Service Territorial"? And finally my dads' place of birth is listed as
"Karlowicze pawii Rohiczyn waj: Polesie Polska" and to top it off I cannot find
that on the map.
??? Looking
back and trying to imagin what my father went through by being deported to
Siberia and fighting with the British, one would think that coming to Canada
would be his first real taste of living in a free country, I thought so, until I
ran across a wallet size docuement with my dads name on it ,??it reads
"Department of Labour Canada. This is to certify that Polish Veteran?Leon
Bancarz has discharged the undertaking made with the Government of Canada to
remain in specified employment for a fixed period of time upon admission to
Canada. Dated Aug.22/49. Its signed by the minister of Labour and the Deputy
Minister, I remember that my dad told me one time that he had to work on a farm
in Quebec for two years in order to stay in Canada, my mother had to work on a
farm also she also had no choice, but in her case she was deported to Germany,
from Poland. So if anyone out there can help me? Thank
you.?
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God Bless,
Gary.??????????????????????????
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Odp: Question from Linder Stachnik
Wladyslaw Czapski
开云体育Adres:
Archiwum Wschodnie?
"KARTA"
ul. Narbutta 29
02-536 Warszawa
tel. +48 22 8480712
ps. Czapski
Wladyslaw
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Odp: Question from Linder Stachnik
Wladyslaw Czapski
开云体育Adres:
Archiwum Wschodnie?
"KARTA"
ul. Narbutta 29
02-536 Warszawa
tel. +48 22 8480712
ps. Czapski Wladyslaw
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