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Hi All , this is a test message at Bernd's request to see that the forum messages are coming through properly, regards Bryan
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A newcomer's questions: More motoring-optimised liveaboard cruiser?; Assembly by water?
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Greetings, we are a young couple considering building a boat as our home after we finish our studies. We have found that Bernd's designs, particularly the KD860, seem to tick many of our boxes in terms of comfort, layout and cost. There are two questions that arose, which we did not find answered on this forum yet: A) although we are likely to stick to the cheapest propulsion option (assumed diesel outboard) at first, the long-term ideal (we assume) would be a solar-electric drive, using better bulk energy storage than batteries (hydrogen, formic acid, methanol fuel cells... we are chemists, and so open to experimentation here). The question then is: since based on the 'Hull speed / motoring kd 860' thread that boat doesnt do well under power, how hard of a tweak would it be to make the KD860 a better medium-speed (<15kn) motor boat? Or are there any other designs with comparable accomodations, sea worthiness and cost that would be better suited to this role? (I have found the Eco85 powercat threads, no expected specs/material costs/layouts though, and we like the compartmentalisation/layout of the KD860). B) we unfortunately live in the smack middle of Europe- even a trip to the Danube (our only navigable river) is 100+km. It was mentioned in the thread 'weight of hull KD860 - moving' that transporting the hulls and center separately is possible, though not ideal- 100h asssembly, 250h finishing. What is meant by 'finishing' please? Is the boat liveable by that point? How much complication is added by such an approach, and what are the requirements on the place of final assembly in terms of space, equipment etc? (Ps. I know the default answer is that companies exist that can transport finished cats, but we are on a tight budget, and live in eastern europe where a French business may ask premium. Apart from that, we would like to have a fallback plan.)
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Hi All It is very quiet in the group. Is someone still building something, or are all activities on hold? When I see what? Nothing, is it any good to continue the group? By the way, this group was founded by a client who is no longer a member. I was then taking over with some doubts. This group was meant to help each other build boats. I suggested that followers here also report on their experiences with their boats. Again, besides 3 in a year, I have it amiss. Ultimately, it would be helpful if builders and owners would participate. I am waiting Bernd
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ECO 65 houseboat
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The following photos have been uploaded to the Eco 65 classic "Galadriel" photo album of the [email protected] group. 228-mastwithtoplight.jpg 229-solarpanelsroof.jpg 230-solarcomputer.jpg 231-locks.jpg 232-batteryswitch.jpg 233-antifouling.jpg 234-aftdoorinside.jpg 235-bathroom sink.jpg 236-bathroom window.jpg 237-greywater outlet handle.jpg 238-propane box.jpg 239-kitchen.jpg 240-dinette.jpg 241-some interior work left.jpg 242-reading time.jpg 243-in the water.JPG 244-at berth.jpg 216-electrics.jpg 217-insideframes.jpg 218-framespainted.jpg 219-morecovers.jpg 220-testing.jpg 221.portsideframes.jpg 222-aftdeckholes.jpg 223-insideblinds.jpg 224-nomoskitos.jpg 225-starboardside.jpg 226-portside.jpg 227-ladder.jpg By: blitzeblau@...
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ECO 65 houseboat2
Hi folks, Bernds last post remembered me that I forgot to give upload some new pictures to my photo album and so I did, please have a look (/g/K-designs-Multihull-Sailboats/album?id=131678). You may, as mentioned before, also feel free to watch the whole story at the German "Boote Forum". (https://www.boote-forum.de/showthread.php?t=270028). So what happened in 2024? Last winter a lot of detail working has been done, electricity, interior, painting, programming, testing, all those time consuming stuff, you now ;-) A couple of things are still left to do for 2025, but we used the chance to get her into the water in late September and enjoyed our first couple of relaxing days on the boat: https://youtu.be/hA4ZkgbASTQ. Looking forward to having more water activities this year. Best, Holger
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Subject:?how is the build going?
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Hi everyone , Ive been checking in here a bit lately to see what is happening. Nothing!!. surely someone must have made some progress on their build lately? Happy New year in any case Bryan
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KD860 update
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Hello everybody. Bernd, I would like to know if there are updates on the KD860 project. After many years of acquiring the plans, I intend to start construction in the second half of this year. Thanks. Fabiano Jacob
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KD860 update plans
Hi Bernd. I world like to know if there are some updates on KD860 plans? Thanks. Fabiano Jacob.
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Hello, my best wishes for 2025! I wish you good health and happiness in building and sailing. I hope to start building a boat this year, probably the KD860. I would love to visit a KD860 somewhere in Europe. Is there anyone who would be willing to give me a tour of their KD860? The reason I haven’t started yet is the lack of available building space. Belgium, where I live, is densely populated, and sheds are either unavailable or too expensive. I started searching for space near rivers and canals four years ago, but eventually had to extend my search area. This brings me to my next question: How do you transport a KD860 by road? Does anyone have experience with this? Thank you! Bart
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Where to start?
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Hi All So, I have been watching Bernd's website, this group and his plans for many years already (7 or 8 I believe). I used to live on a narrow boat in the UK but have always wanted a sea going boat. I'm pretty handy and already build a canoe using the same epoxy and plywood principles to get some practise in for the day I can finally do this. My dream is to build the Pelican. I read about how Bernd lived on his for 12 years and that just seems an amazing prospect, but for me and my family, we definitely don't need anything like that now. So my question is, where to start? I'm an expat living in Slovakia, so it is inland and in order to get as much practise as possible, I require something great for short weekend trips, but I can just rent. The dream right now would probably be the Eco 7, and then I would dock it in Croatia or Slovenia, so we can use it for family holidays 2 or 3 times a year. Is that too crazy for a first build? And, does anyone have an idea how I would get it from Slovakia to the sea? (I guess trucking it) If you think the Eco 7 is too complex or large for a first project, where would you recommend to start? I apologize as this is quite a long message, but we are excited to hear from you! Also, if anyone is based over in CEE, I would love to meet for a beer and hear your stories! Thanks Dale
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happy new year to all
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happy new year HAVE ALL YOU WHANT ,HOP FOR ALL GOOD PROJECT AND HAPPY TIME! cheer Stephane Blanchette montreal canada -- stephane blanchette montreal canada kd860
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webbing or ropes for trampoline
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hi to all first have good holiday and enjoy time i am looking for what it is use for trempoline on catamaran better rope or flat belt (tisus webbing) i have acces to good webbing from 50mm large to 19mm for very good price -- thanks for your answer sorry for my bad english stephane blanchette montreal canada kd860 to 1000
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Hi Domenico Thank you for the nice photos. I like the picture, boat in port and the house on top. So like Vieste some kilometers away. History A good selection of pictures. How easy, difficult is it to set the wing-mast. Any idea about the weight? How is it sailing with the wing-mast? Because we used a wing-mast on a P95. We were to Vlissingen in wind force 7. Making 8 knots. Not a good situation with the strange ebb flow there and against wind waves. It would have being not so difficult with a normal mast (less speed) I see you shortened the main sail already, but there was not much wind. A test? How is the boat handling? A lot of questions, when you have time Ciao Bernd
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KD 860 built in Ukraine
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Hello Gregor Thank you for the photos. It is so good to see, that even in war stricken Ukraine normal work is going on. A time ago, you had already sent some pictures. In flashes I was thinking about your project in the Ukraine. Nice to see now, that there is still some "Normalit?t“. I hope this dammit war ends as quick as possible. Anyway, thanks again Bernd
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ECO 6 Videos
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Good afternoon, fellow K-Design builders, in case you have not seen it somewhere else, I published today a video of the ECO 6 sailing this past season. Check it out on my YouTube channel https://youtu.be/pOzGXYDF18k On my channel there is also a video of the building process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNo16UO28ZA And earlier this fall, I posted a video of the annual Elbow Run. I have organized this gathering for the past 13 years. It is week long event and welcomes any and all sailboats. The reservoir lake is called Lake Diefenbaker and stretches 225 kilometres along the South Saskatchewan River valley which was flooded in the 1950's. The ECO 6 took part in this year's event and plans to do so next year. If you are an armchair sailor like I am at this time of year, my channel has videos of all 13 seasons. Here is the video for 2024. https://youtu.be/P47HxGx0UlY
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Duo 1000 project for sale
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Hi group, I hate to write this message. But I must be real, I don't have time to finish the DUO 1000. Life happened... So now this makes an opportunity for an other builder. Pictures of my build are on the website of Bernd: https://ikarus342000.com/DUO1000page.htm One hull nearly finished, the other one has finished bulkheads, just line them up and put the stringers and skin. The difficult to make aftbeam is ready. Rudderblades too. Lots of materials to finish the boat. Like alle the wood, windows, two new yamaha 10 HP outboard engines, winches etc. I have build quite some boats and the building quality is more than adequate. Bernd can vow for that as we have been building boats together. In fact I learned good tricks from him! For a single mast setup there is a complete rigging, including brand new sails (laminated tapedrive), main, furler genoa, code zero, and a damaged genacker (a nail in the floor did a good job, but you can repair it). For a double mast setup (the most spectacular option of course, but more work) there are two huge flagpoles as a basis to build the free rotating masts. This will make a spectacular fast and safe catamaran! I guess it will take about 1400 building hours to sail. The boat is in the Netherlands. If you are seriously interested you can drop me a message.
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Pelican
Hi Bernd and hi to all. First, I remember seeing a sideview drawing of the Pelican with straight bows AND showing the cabin "redan" running the all length of the hull, just like on Pete Hill's Oryx catamaran. I believe it was the latest version of the Pelican design. Am I imagining it or does it exist? Secondly, It seems your latest designs, (Duo 105, Voyager, Duo 10) all use rather smaller cross section stingers, than the one showing on the Pelican build in Indonesia. (see photos of Indonesian build). if you had to design the pelican Today, Wouldn't you use smaller crossed section stinger too? (saving weight and not loosing too much strength) I am in no way insinuating Pelican is overbuild! Just want to no if there are any update on the design. friendly regards, C.
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Hello Everyone. Hope this message finds everyone happy and in good health. I just purchased the study plans for the KD860. a.) I would like to build this out of foam and carbon fiber , s-glass with west/ISOcertified epoxy. Are there alternate plans that I can buy. b.) Are there any singaporeans here , can I meet you up in person , and ask for your experience. Dinner , fooding , drinks on me. c.) The mast location , is presently in the middle of the beds , seemingly , its load unsupported. Can I move the mast to the cabin bulkhead instead , and have the load resting and distributed spread against the bulkhead. d.) I would like to power the boat with inboard , shaft drive , 2 diesels nanni n2.14 , they are 92KG each , how do I compensate this weight on the boat. e.) I would like to have hydraulic steering on the boat , 3 steerings , one on each side , and one in the cabin. Can anyone share your experience with the valving after each helm pump. f.) Is duckworks the only place I can buy the plans from ? g.) Is the beam 5.6 m ? I can see corrections to it afterwards. I'm assuming it is from the outside of the hull. Thank you , and looking forward to be part of the community. Salut. Hamka
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Choosing a design
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I am interested in building one of your catamaran designs. Iused to own a Wharram Tiki 30 with a pod and I am looking for a design with more comfort which can be trailerable to launch site approx 1000kh away. There will be be a crew of 2 or 3 experienced people building and I would like to finish in 1 year. Can you recommend a design . Thank you Pst
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I am very appealed by instead of building eco6 to rescale eco 520. But thinking that is there some foreseeable challenges that comes from resizing the plan? 520 appeals to me because of the simplistic sails that can be furled as much as neccessary. Easy operation and easy fixing, looking to build boat that would last from father to son when well kept. Is resizing and option or is it just bad idea?
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