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Locked Re: HT-37 transformer failure due to rapid STBY-->OFF-->STBY
Halden?I can't answer your question.? I don't know all of the pitfalls of using an SSR in place of a mechanical switch.? I don't know if there are any unintended consequences.? The SSR will turn
By Jim Whartenby · #30483 ·
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I usually work on tube audio, so we as a group have been installing movs to lessen the shock to transformers and filaments for a while, and filter caps when converted to s/s rectifiers
By Scott Petersen · #30482 ·
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Maybe a spark gap, or a s/s equivalent...would fix it. ________________________________ Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2024 4:41 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:
By Scott Petersen · #30481 ·
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Halden, that is common and in many forms you always see the reference It is easy here if you use email and indent [what I normally do] , I used to be able to do it on line, but my secret does not work
By don Root · #30480 ·
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Halden, very interesting and thoughtful comments getting into the nitty-gritty. Re the turning off part: The switch needs to break any current and open the conduction path enough to withstand the
By don Root · #30479 ·
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Rick , so have you or anyone looked at switch-off transients of the original switches? And also contact bounce on closing for other reasons? Re some SSRs see
Locked Re: HT-37 transformer failure due to rapid STBY-->OFF-->STBY
FYI, in case my posts don't seem to be in logical order, it's because they aren't.? My messages appear on the forum in a sequence different from that in which I submitted them for posting.? Maybe
By HF · #30477 ·
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Hi Jim, Thanks!? So, would an SSR that turns on at zero voltage and turns off at zero current put the core back to zero every time and prevent current surges at turn-on? Halden
By HF · #30476 ·
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Hi Don, Thanks for bringing us back to the original question and for mentioning one of the options I hadn't listed!? Turning the transformer OFF at a particular time relative to the AC voltage cycle
By HF · #30475 ·
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Scott, I worked on three phase power supplies that had some premature transformer failures. The engineers had us install MOVs across the primary windings for all three phases. Never seen another
By David Balma · #30474 ·
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It appears that some experimentation could? in order. If you have a dual trace scope, you can easily measure the input voltage & current on the transformer primary and observe the phase difference
By Rick W7IMM · #30473 ·
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I wonder if a MOV could be somehow used to soften the inrush, if not one perhaps 2 in some kind of toggle arrangement. ________________________________ Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2024 2:56 PM To:
By Scott Petersen · #30472 ·
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Halden, your investigation is interesting and detailed. IMO, the DC [resistance only case, ignoring all inductances] is the extreme limit which won¡¯t be reached. Inductance does not go away,
By don Root · #30471 ·
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I suppose one could use a zero-crossing SSR in series with a TRIAC.? TRIACs turn off when the current is at zero.? One would have to turn the TRIAC on before or at the same time as turning on the
By HF · #30470 ·
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HaldenTo answer your last question first, hysteresis causes the core to be magnetized.? The strength of the magnet in the core is dependent on where in the AC cycle the lagging magnetic field stopped
By Jim Whartenby · #30469 ·
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Thanks, all, for the comments and lessons! It seems we're converging on using zero-crossing transformers that are capable of switching whatever current the transformer would draw if only the winding's
By HF · #30468 ·
Re: HT-37 parts For Sale
I am also going to the Sussex hamfest? I can bring it there also.
By Scott Petersen · #30467 ·
Re: HT-37 parts For Sale
I also have a complete HT-37 for parts or repair, untested unless someone wants me to variac it up. $100 in Middletown / Goshen NY deliver within 20 miles ________________________________ Sent:
By Scott Petersen · #30466 ·
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Thanks Don.? That makes sense! 73/jeff/ac0c alpha-charlie-zero-charlie www.ac0c.com
By Jeff AC0C · #30465 ·
Re: HT-37 parts For Sale
Shipping would probably $50+. I'm in Southwest Ohio near Cincinnati.
By Terry ONeill · #30464 ·