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Hi All,

I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.

Thanks,

Ken


 

I was just wandering why the mailboxes couldn't be placed at the beginning of the street by the entrance, where there are no homes and traffic would be to a minimum ?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I
would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed
location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so
far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If
you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.

Thanks,

Ken








 

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Thank you Karen for your question.

I assume that you are referring to near the intersection of Fairfield and 3 Canyons.? That is potential site #1 referred to in previous emails. The Road District attorney, Nathan Williams, looked at the easement documents for both that site and #3 and concluded that legally we have a much better case for installing the mailboxes on the easement of site #3 than #1.? This is because the easement for site #1 is just the usual broad easement for "ingress/egress and utilities" and is not a specific agreement between the Road District and the property owner, the Palominas School District.? In contrast, the easement agreement for site #3 is specifically between the Road District and the previous landowner and gives the Road District much more latitude as what we can do in the easement.

Personally I see other advantages to site #3 over #1 such as it's much more spacious than what we would have at site #1.?

Ken


On 3/10/2021 6:46 PM, Karen McKnight wrote:

I was just wandering why the mailboxes couldn't be placed at the beginning of the street by the entrance, where there are no homes and traffic would be to a minimum ?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I
would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed
location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so
far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If
you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.

Thanks,

Ken









 

Hi Neighbors:

I understand the legal aspect of it, however my concern is that a flow of traffic at site#3 would bring significant traffic to my property.? My area of Fairfield road suffers signification since The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area ; which suffers when in Monsoon.?

?I can see my area of Fairfield road, becoming a turnaround spot if the mailboxes are put ?at site 3. I already get trespassers whom take the liberties of using my property as a throughway.?

?I suggest we look at a neutral location that affects no-ones property. ? With this being said I'm not saying no ?but not saying yes at this time.?

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Karen

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 8:20 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Karen for your question.

I assume that you are referring to near the intersection of Fairfield and 3 Canyons.? That is potential site #1 referred to in previous emails. The Road District attorney, Nathan Williams, looked at the easement documents for both that site and #3 and concluded that legally we have a much better case for installing the mailboxes on the easement of site #3 than #1.? This is because the easement for site #1 is just the usual broad easement for "ingress/egress and utilities" and is not a specific agreement between the Road District and the property owner, the Palominas School District.? In contrast, the easement agreement for site #3 is specifically between the Road District and the previous landowner and gives the Road District much more latitude as what we can do in the easement.

Personally I see other advantages to site #3 over #1 such as it's much more spacious than what we would have at site #1.?

Ken


On 3/10/2021 6:46 PM, Karen McKnight wrote:
I was just wandering why the mailboxes couldn't be placed at the beginning of the street by the entrance, where there are no homes and traffic would be to a minimum ?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I
would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed
location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so
far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If
you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.

Thanks,

Ken









 

I meant significantly not signification auto correct (bummer)?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:58 PM Karen McKnight via <imecorp=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Neighbors:

I understand the legal aspect of it, however my concern is that a flow of traffic at site#3 would bring significant traffic to my property.? My area of Fairfield road suffers signification since The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area ; which suffers when in Monsoon.?

?I can see my area of Fairfield road, becoming a turnaround spot if the mailboxes are put ?at site 3. I already get trespassers whom take the liberties of using my property as a throughway.?

?I suggest we look at a neutral location that affects no-ones property. ? With this being said I'm not saying no ?but not saying yes at this time.?

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Karen

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 8:20 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Karen for your question.

I assume that you are referring to near the intersection of Fairfield and 3 Canyons.? That is potential site #1 referred to in previous emails. The Road District attorney, Nathan Williams, looked at the easement documents for both that site and #3 and concluded that legally we have a much better case for installing the mailboxes on the easement of site #3 than #1.? This is because the easement for site #1 is just the usual broad easement for "ingress/egress and utilities" and is not a specific agreement between the Road District and the property owner, the Palominas School District.? In contrast, the easement agreement for site #3 is specifically between the Road District and the previous landowner and gives the Road District much more latitude as what we can do in the easement.

Personally I see other advantages to site #3 over #1 such as it's much more spacious than what we would have at site #1.?

Ken


On 3/10/2021 6:46 PM, Karen McKnight wrote:
I was just wandering why the mailboxes couldn't be placed at the beginning of the street by the entrance, where there are no homes and traffic would be to a minimum ?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I
would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed
location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so
far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If
you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.

Thanks,

Ken









 

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惭补’补尘,

I ?guess I don’t understand why traffic would increase down the dirt road to your house. It’s approximately a 1/4 mile from where the proposed mail boxes would go to your house. And the site is before the turn onto Paseo Venado. Additionally there is space on the opposite side of the road from the mail box to turn around. I would imagine the only ones drive down towards your house are lost as it is a dead end. Given all the options I do not really see how any others are better and more neutral than site #3.?

Matthew Paddock


On Mar 10, 2021, at 22:00, Karen McKnight <imecorp@...> wrote:

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I meant significantly not signification auto correct (bummer)?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:58 PM Karen McKnight via <imecorp=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Neighbors:

I understand the legal aspect of it, however my concern is that a flow of traffic at site#3 would bring significant traffic to my property.? My area of Fairfield road suffers signification since The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area ; which suffers when in Monsoon.?

?I can see my area of Fairfield road, becoming a turnaround spot if the mailboxes are put ?at site 3. I already get trespassers whom take the liberties of using my property as a throughway.?

?I suggest we look at a neutral location that affects no-ones property. ? With this being said I'm not saying no ?but not saying yes at this time.?

Any feedback would be welcomed.

Thanks,
Karen

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 8:20 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Karen for your question.

I assume that you are referring to near the intersection of Fairfield and 3 Canyons.? That is potential site #1 referred to in previous emails. The Road District attorney, Nathan Williams, looked at the easement documents for both that site and #3 and concluded that legally we have a much better case for installing the mailboxes on the easement of site #3 than #1.? This is because the easement for site #1 is just the usual broad easement for "ingress/egress and utilities" and is not a specific agreement between the Road District and the property owner, the Palominas School District.? In contrast, the easement agreement for site #3 is specifically between the Road District and the previous landowner and gives the Road District much more latitude as what we can do in the easement.

Personally I see other advantages to site #3 over #1 such as it's much more spacious than what we would have at site #1.?

Ken


On 3/10/2021 6:46 PM, Karen McKnight wrote:
I was just wandering why the mailboxes couldn't be placed at the beginning of the street by the entrance, where there are no homes and traffic would be to a minimum ?

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:34 PM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm sure you're getting really tired of getting emails from me, but I
would like to get as many responses as possible regarding the proposed
location of the mailboxes. Of the 17 homeowners on the email lists, so
far 12 have responded with a thumbs up and none with a thumbs down.? If
you haven't responded, please do so by midnight tonight.

Thanks,

Ken









 

I concur with Mr. Paddock and want to also point out it would be on the paved portion and there is another property between you and the proposed site.?


 

Thank you for the layout and explanation .? I then have no issues with option #3.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:15 AM Philip Apodaca <PSAAPO@...> wrote:
I concur with Mr. Paddock and want to also point out it would be on the paved portion and there is another property between you and the proposed site.?


 

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Karen’s statement, “The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area…” brings up a question I’ve thought about. What are the roads that the Fairfield Estates Road Maintenance and Improvement District (FERMID) are responsible for? I assume they are defined in the governance document, and I suspect that they are the roads the original developer planned and those are shown on the county parcel map (attached). Karen’s driveway is on the easement of the Odean and Sandoval property shown on the map in Philip’s email.

You may have noticed something odd about the way I outlined Fairfield Estates (FE) on the attached map. Karen’s property is 8081 FC and the parcel immediately to the north looks like it should be in FE. I left it out because it has an address on Circle S Drive. Philip’s photo shows it is separated from Karen’s property and the rest of FE by a dry wash, and they don’t use our roads. I checked their tax document, and it turns out the property is in FE, however it’s not taxed by FERMID, which is fair.

Ken

Just saw Karen last email. Thank you, Karen.



On 3/11/2021 8:06 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:

Thank you for the layout and explanation .? I then have no issues with option #3.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:15 AM Philip Apodaca <PSAAPO@...> wrote:
I concur with Mr. Paddock and want to also point out it would be on the paved portion and there is another property between you and the proposed site.?



 

This is an excellent question. I was perplexed why my end of the road was not paved.? If someone could shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Karen

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 9:20 AM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:

Karen’s statement, “The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area…” brings up a question I’ve thought about. What are the roads that the Fairfield Estates Road Maintenance and Improvement District (FERMID) are responsible for? I assume they are defined in the governance document, and I suspect that they are the roads the original developer planned and those are shown on the county parcel map (attached). Karen’s driveway is on the easement of the Odean and Sandoval property shown on the map in Philip’s email.

You may have noticed something odd about the way I outlined Fairfield Estates (FE) on the attached map. Karen’s property is 8081 FC and the parcel immediately to the north looks like it should be in FE. I left it out because it has an address on Circle S Drive. Philip’s photo shows it is separated from Karen’s property and the rest of FE by a dry wash, and they don’t use our roads. I checked their tax document, and it turns out the property is in FE, however it’s not taxed by FERMID, which is fair.

Ken

Just saw Karen last email. Thank you, Karen.



On 3/11/2021 8:06 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:
Thank you for the layout and explanation .? I then have no issues with option #3.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:15 AM Philip Apodaca <PSAAPO@...> wrote:
I concur with Mr. Paddock and want to also point out it would be on the paved portion and there is another property between you and the proposed site.?



 

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Karen, As I said, I suspect it is because your end of the road was not planned to be a road by the developer, and it's not shown as a road on the county parcel map. But I really don't know.? The FERMID governance document should shed some light on the question so it's another reason to get a copy of that document. ?
Ken

On 3/11/2021 8:32 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:

This is an excellent question. I was perplexed why my end of the road was not paved.? If someone could shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Karen

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 9:20 AM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:

Karen’s statement, “The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area…” brings up a question I’ve thought about. What are the roads that the Fairfield Estates Road Maintenance and Improvement District (FERMID) are responsible for? I assume they are defined in the governance document, and I suspect that they are the roads the original developer planned and those are shown on the county parcel map (attached). Karen’s driveway is on the easement of the Odean and Sandoval property shown on the map in Philip’s email.

You may have noticed something odd about the way I outlined Fairfield Estates (FE) on the attached map. Karen’s property is 8081 FC and the parcel immediately to the north looks like it should be in FE. I left it out because it has an address on Circle S Drive. Philip’s photo shows it is separated from Karen’s property and the rest of FE by a dry wash, and they don’t use our roads. I checked their tax document, and it turns out the property is in FE, however it’s not taxed by FERMID, which is fair.

Ken

Just saw Karen last email. Thank you, Karen.



On 3/11/2021 8:06 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:
Thank you for the layout and explanation .? I then have no issues with option #3.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:15 AM Philip Apodaca <PSAAPO@...> wrote:
I concur with Mr. Paddock and want to also point out it would be on the paved portion and there is another property between you and the proposed site.?




 

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?A bit of history (as far back as I can go) regarding the pavement of Fairfield. ?I may not have all the facts and Jim Ruby will need to fill in where I am mistaken or missing information.

As the FERMID began considering the project the first step was to obtain property easements from all property owners. ?In my recollection the owners of the properties marked Jones’ and 8081 Fairfield Circle did not agree and did not provide easement agreements to the FERMID. Ken, does the FERMID now possess the easement to the two properties indicated? ?The FERMID tax assessment is a different issue. ?The tax assessment was levied on all properties whether the owners supplied an easement agreement or not. I am fuzzy here on how that all occurred.

In addition, Fairfield major (not including any side streets or “driveways on private property”) was the first step in the pavement process...Venado was paved later so the extension of Fairfield north of Venado was not planned (nor ANY of the side streets). As mentioned, Venado was paved some time later and extensions down the side roads were done to preserve the intersections, where possible.

Again, these may not be completely accurate facts as I am writing from memory from almost 10 years ago.

Mark P. Boggie

On Mar 11, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Karen McKnight <imecorp@...> wrote:

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This is an excellent question. I was perplexed why my end of the road was not paved.? If someone could shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Karen

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 9:20 AM Ken Cameron via <rocks=[email protected]> wrote:

Karen’s statement, “The Fairfield ?Road organization did not extend the paved road to my area…” brings up a question I’ve thought about. What are the roads that the Fairfield Estates Road Maintenance and Improvement District (FERMID) are responsible for? I assume they are defined in the governance document, and I suspect that they are the roads the original developer planned and those are shown on the county parcel map (attached). Karen’s driveway is on the easement of the Odean and Sandoval property shown on the map in Philip’s email.

You may have noticed something odd about the way I outlined Fairfield Estates (FE) on the attached map. Karen’s property is 8081 FC and the parcel immediately to the north looks like it should be in FE. I left it out because it has an address on Circle S Drive. Philip’s photo shows it is separated from Karen’s property and the rest of FE by a dry wash, and they don’t use our roads. I checked their tax document, and it turns out the property is in FE, however it’s not taxed by FERMID, which is fair.

Ken

Just saw Karen last email. Thank you, Karen.



On 3/11/2021 8:06 AM, Karen McKnight wrote:
Thank you for the layout and explanation .? I then have no issues with option #3.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:15 AM Philip Apodaca <PSAAPO@...> wrote:
I concur with Mr. Paddock and want to also point out it would be on the paved portion and there is another property between you and the proposed site.?
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