Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
Isn't?ARCP 480 for kenwood only?
you could also try FLRig, also needs a serial adapter.?
Thanks Dan KC2STA
A couple clues you mentioned… ? S meter at S9+++ might indicate that the RF Gain is turned down. ?RF gain shares the squelch knob.? You also might try downloading the ARCP 480 remote control program and get yourself (or borrow) a USB-RS232 cable (RT Systems version always works…Cheaper versions found on Amazon or Ebay might not.) ? Also, the MTune means that it is in memory mode and tuning from a memory channel. ? 73 & good luck! ? Ronald Jakubowski K2RJ ?
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
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Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
Thanks Ronald,? That's why I was trying to be as detailed as
possible.
I noted in the manual the reported effect on the S meter when
turning down the gain, so I probably should have reported that
turning the gain adjustment knob had no effect on the S meter on
my radio (or anything else for that matter).? Another clue that
something is functionally wrong.
I'll investigate the remote control option.
73, Steve KF8KI
On 7/8/2024 9:10 AM, Ron Jakubowski via
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A couple clues you mentioned…
?
S meter at S9+++ might indicate that the RF
Gain is turned down. ?RF
gain shares the squelch knob.?
You also might try downloading the ARCP 480 remote
control program and get yourself (or borrow) a USB-RS232 cable
(RT Systems version always works…Cheaper versions found on
Amazon or Ebay might not.)
?
Also, the MTune
means that it is in memory mode and tuning from a memory
channel.
?
73 & good luck!
?
Ronald
Jakubowski
K2RJ
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Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
A couple clues you mentioned… ? S meter at S9+++ might indicate that the RF Gain is turned down. ?RF gain shares the squelch knob.? You also might try downloading the ARCP 480 remote control program and get yourself (or borrow) a USB-RS232 cable (RT Systems version always works…Cheaper versions found on Amazon or Ebay might not.) ? Also, the MTune means that it is in memory mode and tuning from a memory channel. ? 73 & good luck! ? Ronald Jakubowski K2RJ ?
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Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
Yours looks to be an 857D like mine. Emailing customer support will get you full confirmation. Yaesu still supports these.?
Juan
On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, 19:09 Steve Weigold < steve@...> wrote:
Thanks Juan,
I don't see an actual DIP (as in an IC) socket.? I do see that
the module along the left chassis wall is plugged in to the main
board though.? Guessing this is an 857D from the factory then?
73, Steve KF8KI
On 7/7/2024 6:55 PM, Juan Jiménez
wrote:
If the circuit board has a DIP socket on the top
of the board, lower left as seen from the front, it is an 857.
If it has a chip on the socket it's been upgraded to an 857D.
If it has no socket, it was an 857D from the factory.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at
3:16?PM Steve Weigold < steve@...>
wrote:
I'm not sure if it's an 857 or an 857D and I'm not clear on
how to tell
the difference.
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Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
Thanks Juan,
I don't see an actual DIP (as in an IC) socket.? I do see that
the module along the left chassis wall is plugged in to the main
board though.? Guessing this is an 857D from the factory then?
73, Steve KF8KI
On 7/7/2024 6:55 PM, Juan Jiménez
wrote:
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If the circuit board has a DIP socket on the top
of the board, lower left as seen from the front, it is an 857.
If it has a chip on the socket it's been upgraded to an 857D.
If it has no socket, it was an 857D from the factory.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at
3:16?PM Steve Weigold < steve@...>
wrote:
I'm not sure if it's an 857 or an 857D and I'm not clear on
how to tell
the difference.
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Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
If the circuit board has a DIP socket on the top of the board, lower left as seen from the front, it is an 857. If it has a chip on the socket it's been upgraded to an 857D. If it has no socket, it was an 857D from the factory.
On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 3:16?PM Steve Weigold < steve@...> wrote:
I'm not sure if it's an 857 or an 857D and I'm not clear on how to tell
the difference.
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Re: Another buttons issue, and no audio
Apologies to the mods.? I overlooked that the new guy is
moderated.
Some additional details since I sent the first message.? I have
opened the cover of the control head.? All of the buttons seem to
be functioning properly, as in, none seem "stuck".? The circuit
board is in good condition with no apparent damage.
73, Steve KF8KI
On 7/7/2024 6:07 PM, Steve Weigold
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Apologies if this comes through twice. Originally sent by email
and it still hasn't appeared after 3 hours, so trying the web
interface.
Hi All,
- I've read through all the buttons related questions I can find.
My issue doesn't quite match any of them
- No, it's not locked
- Yes, I have cleaned the control head contacts
- Yes, I have swapped the control head cable
Now that those are out of the way, I have an 857 I just got that
supposedly, HF worked and VHF/UHF worked but had low TX power.
It's been sitting in a closet for a while.
I'm not sure if it's an 857 or an 857D and I'm not clear on how to
tell the difference.
I've powered it up, and I find that most of the buttons don't work
and other than the power up sound and a beep if I use power or the
mic FST button, there's no sound.? Short press on power or press
of mic FST both get the running man and fast tune (and the
associated beep).? The knob works.? The radio powers up in 40m and
I can scroll up and down the band.? I'd expect to get at least
some static sound.
That's all I can do.? No amount of button fondling causes anything
else to happen.
I've seen the discussion about resistor issues on the board near
the mic connector.? I don't see any damage on visual inspection in
that area.? I've also tried both with and without the mic
connected (an MH-31).? No change.
I've also tried the power it down, press power to drain caps,
short power wires together to fully discharge, etc.? No change.
* I have attempted factory reset with home pressed on power up.
The radio does not reset.? I've watched a YT video showing the
process and the additional sound that is heard on a reset does not
occur.
On a related note, my display looks a little different in content
than the video I watched ().?
Mine shows power supply voltage, the s-meter at left is showing
full scale S9++ and shows MTUNE, in case any of that is relevant.
Nothing else is connected to the radio beyond power and the mic.
Ideas?
Thanks!
Steve, KF8KI
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Another buttons issue, and no audio
Apologies if this comes through twice. Originally sent by email and it still hasn't appeared after 3 hours, so trying the web interface.
Hi All,
- I've read through all the buttons related questions I can find. My issue doesn't quite match any of them
- No, it's not locked
- Yes, I have cleaned the control head contacts
- Yes, I have swapped the control head cable
Now that those are out of the way, I have an 857 I just got that supposedly, HF worked and VHF/UHF worked but had low TX power. It's been sitting in a closet for a while.
I'm not sure if it's an 857 or an 857D and I'm not clear on how to tell the difference.
I've powered it up, and I find that most of the buttons don't work and other than the power up sound and a beep if I use power or the mic FST button, there's no sound.? Short press on power or press of mic FST both get the running man and fast tune (and the associated beep).? The knob works.? The radio powers up in 40m and I can scroll up and down the band.? I'd expect to get at least some static sound.
That's all I can do.? No amount of button fondling causes anything else to happen.
I've seen the discussion about resistor issues on the board near the mic connector.? I don't see any damage on visual inspection in that area.? I've also tried both with and without the mic connected (an MH-31).? No change.
I've also tried the power it down, press power to drain caps, short power wires together to fully discharge, etc.? No change.
* I have attempted factory reset with home pressed on power up. The radio does not reset.? I've watched a YT video showing the process and the additional sound that is heard on a reset does not occur.
On a related note, my display looks a little different in content than the video I watched ().? Mine shows power supply voltage, the s-meter at left is showing full scale S9++ and shows MTUNE, in case any of that is relevant.
Nothing else is connected to the radio beyond power and the mic.
Ideas?
Thanks!
Steve, KF8KI
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Another buttons issue, and no audio
Hi All,
- I've read through all the buttons related questions I can find. My issue doesn't quite match any of them
- No, it's not locked
- Yes, I have cleaned the control head contacts
- Yes, I have swapped the control head cable
Now that those are out of the way, I have an 857 I just got that supposedly, HF worked and VHF/UHF worked but had low TX power. It's been sitting in a closet for a while.
I'm not sure if it's an 857 or an 857D and I'm not clear on how to tell the difference.
I've powered it up, and I find that most of the buttons don't work and other than the power up sound and a beep if I use power or the mic FST button, there's no sound.? Short press on power or press of mic FST both get the running man and fast tune (and the associated beep).? The knob works.? The radio powers up in 40m and I can scroll up and down the band.? I'd expect to get at least some static sound.
That's all I can do.? No amount of button fondling causes anything else to happen.
I've seen the discussion about resistor issues on the board near the mic connector.? I don't see any damage on visual inspection in that area.? I've also tried both with and without the mic connected (an MH-31).? No change.
I've also tried the power it down, press power to drain caps, short power wires together to fully discharge, etc.? No change.
* I have attempted factory reset with home pressed on power up. The radio does not reset.? I've watched a YT video showing the process and the additional sound that is heard on a reset does not occur.
On a related note, my display looks a little different in content than the video I watched ().? Mine shows power supply voltage, the s-meter at left is showing full scale S9++ and shows MTUNE, in case any of that is relevant.
Nothing else is connected to the radio beyond power and the mic.
Ideas?
Thanks!
Steve, KF8KI
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Re: 857D Buttons Inoperative
Remove the control head again and, with a Q-tip and/or cloth saturated with Deoxit, clean any and all contacts you can get to.
That the buttons "worked for a minute" sounds to me like a possible oxidation issue, especially so given the age of these radios.
73, Kent K9ZTV
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On Jul 6, 2024, at 6:20?AM, Seammus via groups.io <Seammus@...> wrote:
? Thanks k1prc.? I did as you advised.? Removed the cover, blew out the dust with a can of air, inspected what I could see and reassembled.? It worked..for a minute.? But, it didn't last and went back to my original complaint.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 4:47 PM, Juan Jiménez <k1cpr@...> wrote:
Remove the control head from the chassis, disconnect the head cable and check for dust or other debris/damage. Reconnect and ensure proper seating.
No. No "KEY" showing.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 12:41 PM, John < ve3kkqve3kkq@...> wrote:
Is the "KEY" symbol showing on the screen, if yes, the frequency associated controls are locked, unlock them.
John VE7KKQ
All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative. Will not change modes or bands. Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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Re: 857D Buttons Inoperative
Try a different cable. If the problem persists your might have a bad control head. Replacements are readily available.
Thanks k1prc.? I did as you advised.? Removed the cover, blew out the dust with a can of air, inspected what I could see and reassembled.? It worked..for a minute.? But, it didn't last and went back to my original complaint.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 4:47 PM, Juan Jiménez < k1cpr@...> wrote:
Remove the control head from the chassis, disconnect the head cable and check for dust or other debris/damage. Reconnect and ensure proper seating.
No. No "KEY" showing.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 12:41 PM, John < ve3kkqve3kkq@...> wrote:
Is the "KEY" symbol showing on the screen, if yes, the frequency associated controls are locked, unlock them.
John VE7KKQ
All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative. Will not change modes or bands. Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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Re: 857D Buttons Inoperative
Thanks k1prc.? I did as you advised.? Removed the cover, blew out the dust with a can of air, inspected what I could see and reassembled.? It worked..for a minute.? But, it didn't last and went back to my original complaint.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 4:47 PM, Juan Jiménez <k1cpr@...> wrote:
Remove the control head from the chassis, disconnect the head cable and check for dust or other debris/damage. Reconnect and ensure proper seating.
No. No "KEY" showing.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 12:41 PM, John < ve3kkqve3kkq@...> wrote:
Is the "KEY" symbol showing on the screen, if yes, the frequency associated controls are locked, unlock them.
John VE7KKQ
All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative. Will not change modes or bands. Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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Re: 857D Buttons Inoperative
Remove the control head from the chassis, disconnect the head cable and check for dust or other debris/damage. Reconnect and ensure proper seating.
No. No "KEY" showing.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 12:41 PM, John < ve3kkqve3kkq@...> wrote:
Is the "KEY" symbol showing on the screen, if yes, the frequency associated controls are locked, unlock them.
John VE7KKQ
All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative. Will not change modes or bands. Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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Re: 857D Buttons Inoperative
No. No "KEY" showing.
On Monday, July 1st, 2024 at 12:41 PM, John <ve3kkqve3kkq@...> wrote:
Is the "KEY" symbol showing on the screen, if yes, the frequency associated controls are locked, unlock them.
John VE7KKQ
All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative. Will not change modes or bands. Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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Re: 857D Buttons Inoperative
Is the "KEY" symbol showing on the screen, if yes, the frequency associated controls are locked, unlock them.
John VE7KKQ
All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative.? Will not change modes or bands.? Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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All top row buttons except DSP button inoperative.? Will not change modes or bands.? Anyone have an idea on this? Please advise.
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Re: How to assemble a Collins filter + Board for FT-857 and save $$$!!!
I found a filter I think I can use. Specs are 455 khz USB, 250 hz BW @ 2dB down, 3.2 khz BW @ 50 dB down, 9dB insertion loss. I bought the last one the seller had. Do these specs make sense for a CW filter for the 857D? I can always sell it if it's not, but didn't want to miss it if it's correct.
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Re: How to assemble a Collins filter + Board for FT-857 and save $$$!!!
Ok. I will see if I can find one of those two. So far I have only found the YF-122CN's in Japan at pretty high prices, and nine of the individual filters. I tried Collins, they said no stock. But that was obviously a long shot hail mary.
Thanks!?
73, Juan K1CPR
You could operate with a 200Hz width, just like a 300Hz filter. These are handy when you are trying to isolate one station right next to another.
Filters do present some insertion loss, so you would be attenuating the signal you are trying to line up within the 200Hz notch. If the station is strong this would not be noticeable. Who knows. It would be fun to experiment with it. Go for it!
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Re: How to assemble a Collins filter + Board for FT-857 and save $$$!!!
You could operate with a 200Hz width, just like a 300Hz filter. These are handy when you are trying to isolate one station right next to another.
Filters do present some insertion loss, so you would be attenuating the signal you are trying to line up within the 200Hz notch. If the station is strong this would not be noticeable. Who knows. It would be fun to experiment with it. Go for it!
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My pleasure. I went from a Kenwood TS-520SE to a Drake TR-4C to the FT-897D. A hybrid to tubed to a computer. I love the 857D/897D but was surprised at the learning curve. I learned all of this from many people, and decided to put the site up to help others hoping they could get in the air quicker.
The website is a little long in the tooth. This month I'm going to start a new website to replace it. The information will stay on it and I will add more information on other radios I have.
73,
--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC
hamradio.hanklambert.com
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On June 24, 2024 11:28:37 AM EDT, "Adoni Poledicha via groups.io" <kg5whc@...> wrote:
Hank,That is some good information you shared with your link.
Thank you ,Adoni / KG5WHC
Sent from mobile device On Jun 24, 2024, at 6:05?AM, Hank Lambert (KB4MTO) <hank@...> wrote:
? There are over 100 different settings on the 857/897. In my website, I have a table showing the default setting and my settings. It might give you a starting point. ? The first thing I would recommend is to do the ALC adjustment. It sets up your radio for your voice and your mic.? If you ever change your mic out, you will need to run it again. It’s simple and quick. ? Let us know if you have any questions. ? ? 73, ? --Hank KB4MTO / TA5ZC
Some of the settings are specific to your use and voice. The 1st thing I would do is to
On June 23, 2024 10:02:33 PM EDT, "Adoni Poledicha via groups.io" <kg5whc@...> wrote: I have inherited a FT-857D. I have not messed with any radios for several years now, and I am wondering are there any special considerations with getting this radio powered up and running? Other the plugging in to power, grounding and connecting and tuning the antenna, are there any other connections, filters etc. that I need to be concerned with getting this radio operable? ? Your advice will be greatly appreciated it!
On Jun 23, 2024, at 8:45?PM, Don DeGregori <ddegreg1@...> wrote:
?Thanks. So it will work connected to the FT-857D?
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Juan Jiménez
