On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:31 AM, pete wrote: do away with the fuse in the negative line not needed It kind of is. In an automotive situation if the battery negative to chassis connection fails it's possible a *lot* of current will try and find its way home via the radio. It's not a likely situation but is possible. Having said that I only use one fuse on mobile rigs and no fuses at all on my bush radio but simply a 1m lead to a battery.
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Kofi,
Check the wire entering the fuse holders,? I recently found mine were discolored from heat caused by a bad connection. I replaced the fuse holders just to make sure I fixed the problem.? My FT857 had large round fuses, I replaced them with the spade type used in cars today.? One way to check to see if that is where the voltage drop is measure the voltage across the fuse holder while transmitting.? I be that is where you are losing the almost 3 volts.
Good Luck & 73,
Wes
WA5TKU
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Re: FT 857D button problem
OOOPS!? Hadn’t got to Mike’s post.? Phil. ? ?
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Re: FT 857D button problem
Pete, One more suggestion.? Have you tried substituting the cable linking front panel to radio?? Or, thoroughly cleaning contacts on each end, and receptacle contacts.?? Regards, Phil / K4PO ? ?
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 02:56:10 -0700 "Kofi & Mimi in Ghana via groups.io" <kofigbleze@...> wrote: I have had an 857D for quite a while which i have used mobile. At some point,
I noticed some erratic behavior like screen flashing and someone reported my
signal had a chirp and wasn't frequency stable.
So, I adjusted the menu so I could see the voltage reported by the radio. In
RX, it looked ok; something like 13.5 or so. But when I keyed down in CW at
100 watts, the voltage reported by the radio display went down to 10.8. I
tried making the wires feeding the radio larger, etc. with no change. I also
tried it indoors on an Astron RS-50M power supply and note the same huge
voltage drop. Power output is about 80 watts. Any ideas of what I should
check? This couldn't be normal?? Kofi
I am going to say exactly the same as Leonard Fuse holder do away with the fuse in the negative line not needed as for the meter reading not very accurate just an indication really check see if there is a voltage drop across the standard Yaesu connector it does happen Does not solve my button problem thou Pete .
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Check your fuse holder. They can develop high resistance.
I wouldn't put much faith in the meter. I don't think it is particularly accurate when transmitting. Both my 857 would go around 10.8 when transmitting and they had no issues.
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
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On 9/28/20 2:56 AM, Kofi & Mimi in Ghana via groups.io wrote: I have had an 857D for quite a while which i have used mobile. At some point, I noticed some erratic behavior like screen flashing and someone reported my signal had a chirp and wasn't frequency stable.
So, I adjusted the menu so I could see the voltage reported by the radio. In RX, it looked ok; something like 13.5 or so. But when I keyed down in CW at 100 watts, the voltage reported by the radio display went down to 10.8. I tried making the wires feeding the radio larger, etc. with no change. I also tried it indoors on an Astron RS-50M power supply and note the same huge voltage drop. Power output is about 80 watts. Any ideas of what I should check? This couldn't be normal??
Kofi
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Re: FT 857D button problem
Go for the obvious first - which would be the ribbon connector. Anything?that physically moves or has any tension on it has to be a candidate. Hopefully you will find the issue and it will be a cheapish part.
Best of luck, Mark.
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:52:24 -0700
"Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF" <20junk20@...> wrote:
> There is a menu setting for "Remote" mic. It may be set to the regular
> "non" DTFM mic.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
> VA7TF? VE7ACF
>
> On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 12:22 pete, <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500
> > "William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote:
> >
> > > You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
> > >
> > > > On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?Hi all ..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
> > > >
> > > > If i turn my 857 off? ?turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary
> > controls
> > > > work just fine but non of the buttons? .
> > > >
> > > > It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have
> > tried
> > > > a different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables
> > > > tested the cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can
> > not
> > > > find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? .
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks? ?Pete G6NJR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hi yes? ?checked that one thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Also done a complete factory reset
> >
> > Humm semi stuck button? ?doubt it as it was the same with a completely
> > different head and my head works ok on another radio
> >
> > Also? tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing
> >
> > No? morse key
> >
> > Beep is the same? ? ?..
> >
> >
> > it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand
> > mic
> > but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work? .
> >
> >? it is a good one? ?to say the least? guess i will have to have the boards
> > out
> >? and have a good look under the magnified light
> >
> > Pete .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
Nope not that one either? i have tried a dtmf? mic but same results? mic
setting is back to the standard mic? ?it is a pain? i have been? thru every
thing i can find? puts it down to a duff joint or a duff Component tht will be
where the real fun starts? ?. watch? this space? .
Pete
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I have had an 857D for quite a while which i have used mobile. At some point, I noticed some erratic behavior like screen flashing and someone reported my signal had a chirp and wasn't frequency stable.
So, I adjusted the menu so I could see the voltage reported by the radio. In RX, it looked ok; something like 13.5 or so. But when I keyed down in CW at 100 watts, the voltage reported by the radio display went down to 10.8. I tried making the wires feeding the radio larger, etc. with no change. I also tried it indoors on an Astron RS-50M power supply and note the same huge voltage drop. Power output is about 80 watts. Any ideas of what I should check? This couldn't be normal??
Kofi
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Re: FT 857D button problem
You may already know this but I haven't seen it mentioned yet.
When using the remote mic look at the color of the topmost right side button.
When no light is on, no locks are on and it is now in fast scroll mode. IE: 5 Khz steps When the light is green (holding the button in for 1.5 - 2 seconds) it is in Volume Scroll mode When you press it and the light is orange, it is in fine tune IE: 1 Khz steps
Now, if it is Orange AND you press the top LEFT button, or the lock button on the faceplate unit, most functions are locked and you will see the little lock icon on the faceplate lower right.
I have done this myself when starting it back up and not looking at the colors of the top right button.
Only a suggestion.
73,? Joe / AJ3O
On Monday, September 28, 2020, 06:37:22 AM EDT, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:15:22 +1000 "Michael Carper via groups.io" <mike= [email protected]> wrote: > I had this problem with one of my buttons. Then I ended up replacing the > separation cable... and the problem went away. > > Mike, WA9PIE > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:19 AM pete < pg.nikolic1@...> wrote: > > > Hi all .. > > > > > > This is one that has been bugging me for some time now . > > > > If i turn my 857 off? turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls > > work just fine but non of the buttons? . > > > > It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have > > tried a > > different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables? tested > > the > > cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can not find any > > hint of > > a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? . > > > > Anyone else had this and found an the answer . > > > > > > Thanks? Pete G6NJR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yep done that one as well? ? and tested my cable on another radio it? works perfectly? ? .. Keep the suggestions coming folks? i a open to try anything? ? .. Pete
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:15:22 +1000 "Michael Carper via groups.io" <mike@...> wrote: I had this problem with one of my buttons. Then I ended up replacing the
separation cable... and the problem went away.
Mike, WA9PIE
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:19 AM pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have
tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested
the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any
hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
yep done that one as well and tested my cable on another radio it works perfectly .. Keep the suggestions coming folks i a open to try anything .. Pete
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:52:24 -0700 "Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF" <20junk20@...> wrote: There is a menu setting for "Remote" mic. It may be set to the regular
"non" DTFM mic.
Regards,
Tony
VA7TF VE7ACF
On Sun., Sep. 27, 2020, 12:22 pete, <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500
"William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote:
You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have
tried
a different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables
tested the cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can
not
find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
Hi yes checked that one thanks
Also done a complete factory reset
Humm semi stuck button doubt it as it was the same with a completely
different head and my head works ok on another radio
Also tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing
No morse key
Beep is the same ..
it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand
mic
but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work .
it is a good one to say the least guess i will have to have the boards
out
and have a good look under the magnified light
Pete .
Nope not that one either i have tried a dtmf mic but same results mic setting is back to the standard mic it is a pain i have been thru every thing i can find puts it down to a duff joint or a duff Component tht will be where the real fun starts . watch this space . Pete
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Re: FT 857D button problem
I had this problem with one of my buttons. Then I ended up replacing the separation cable... and the problem went away.
Mike, WA9PIE
Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off? ?turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons? .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have tried a
different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables? tested the
cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks? ?Pete G6NJR
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Re: FT 857D button problem
There is a menu setting for "Remote" mic. It may be set to the regular "non" DTFM mic.
Regards,
Tony
VA7TF? VE7ACF
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500
"William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote:
> You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
>
> > On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi all ..
> >
> >
> > This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
> >
> > If i turn my 857 off? ?turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls
> > work just fine but non of the buttons? .
> >
> > It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have tried
> > a different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables
> > tested the cables? and the head on another radio? ? all ok but i can not
> > find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all? ? .
> >
> > Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
> >
> >
> > Thanks? ?Pete G6NJR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hi yes? ?checked that one thanks
Also done a complete factory reset
Humm semi stuck button? ?doubt it as it was the same with a completely
different head and my head works ok on another radio
Also? tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing
No? morse key
Beep is the same? ? ?..
it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand mic
but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work? .
?it is a good one? ?to say the least? guess i will have to have the boards out
?and have a good look under the magnified light? ?
Pete .
--
+++++++++++++++
Tony
VA7TF? VE7ACF
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Re: FT 857D button problem
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 09:43:22 -0500 "William, N5WOI" <stargazer111@...> wrote: You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried
a different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables
tested the cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not
find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
Hi yes checked that one thanks Also done a complete factory reset Humm semi stuck button doubt it as it was the same with a completely different head and my head works ok on another radio Also tried grounding out and completely disconnecting every thing No morse key Beep is the same .. it is strange that the power button works on both the radio and the hand mic but the up/down buttons on the mic dont work . it is a good one to say the least guess i will have to have the boards out and have a good look under the magnified light Pete .
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Re: FT 857D button problem
Try that link. It has some suggestions.
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Re: FT 857D button problem
Is the 857D "beep" different than before? I discovered a few years back that if you leave the line from the rig to the computer plugged in but remove it from the computer, the beep changes tone, repeater tones aren't transmitted, and other weird stuff happens. Turn the rig off.? Unplug everything including power and mic.? Let it sit a bit. Then replug only mic and power and try it again. No computer, no signalink, no speaker, no tuner, nothing.? Good luck. Cliff W3KKO
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On Saturday, September 26, 2020 James Clark <[email protected]> wrote:It doesn't sound as though this is your problem but:
I have it in mind from years ago that if a morse key (or maybe some other item?) is plugged into the back of the radio the buttons don't work - an obscure software bug.
Try removing all cables except power from the radio and see what happens.
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Re: FT 857D button problem
It doesn't sound as though this is your problem but:
I have it in mind from years ago that if a morse key (or maybe some other item?) is plugged into the back of the radio the buttons don't work - an obscure software bug.
Try removing all cables except power from the radio and see what happens.
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Re: FT 857D button problem
Hello Pete, ? Search for a possible semi stuck button. I’ve experienced this in the past, as the radio “warms” up after turning it on, temperature difference caused the similar issue. ? Dirt, dust, moisture all add to a cakey type paste that may be impeding a button. ? ? --------------- Regards, ? Tony ?
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From: peteSent: September 26, 2020 7:19 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [FT-857] FT 857D button problem ? Hi all .. ? ? This is one that has been bugging me for some time now . ? If i turn my 857 off?? turn it back on a bit later? all the rotary controls work just fine but non of the buttons? . ? It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave? i have tried a different head tried the cable? both short and long factory cables? tested the cables? and the head on another radio??? all ok but i can not find any hint of a bad connection on the radio boards at all??? . ? Anyone else had this and found an the answer . ? ? Thanks?? Pete G6NJR ? ? ? ? ? -- +++++++++++++++ Tony VA7TF? VE7ACF
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Pete did you try a full reset of the radio that might clear the problem.
Good luck
Best Regards
Hanford R Wright
WA4LZC
CCA# AC11-12590
Sent from my iPhoney please pardon my typos.
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On Sep 26, 2020, at 10:19, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Re: FT 857D button problem
You do know there is a lock button on the faceplate? It’s not that is it?
Sent from my iPhone 6 SE ver. 13.4.1
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On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:19 AM, pete <pg.nikolic1@...> wrote:
?Hi all ..
This is one that has been bugging me for some time now .
If i turn my 857 off turn it back on a bit later all the rotary controls
work just fine but non of the buttons .
It can take anywhere between 5 and 10 mins for them to behave i have tried a
different head tried the cable both short and long factory cables tested the
cables and the head on another radio all ok but i can not find any hint of
a bad connection on the radio boards at all .
Anyone else had this and found an the answer .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Mark Wickens M0NOM
Kofi & Mimi in Ghana
Tony VA7TF, VE7ACF
William Ingram-N5WOI