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FT-857D vs. FT-991A

Randall
 

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?I'm seeking an opinion for a radio for portable use, something rugged.

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Would?you say the FT-857D is a physically stronger, more heavy duty radio then the FT-991A or the FT-891 for that matter.

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Randall
FT-857D vs. FT-991A

Randall
 

I'm seeking an opinion for a radio for portable use, something rugged.

Would you say the FT-857D is a physically stronger, more heavy duty radio
then the FT-991A or the FT-891 for that matter.

Randall
Re: HAND MIKES NOT WORKING

 

For the remote Mic, the following MUST be set first.

Menu Mode 059 [MIC Sel] should be set to REM?


Joe / AJ3O

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 08:27:33 PM EDT, sv.takara@... [FT-857] wrote:


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You probably already knew this, but check these menu items

Menu Mode 058 [MIC SCAN] should be set to ON
Menu Moce 059 [MIC Sel] should be set to NOR
Re: HAND MIKES NOT WORKING

 

Menu #59 should be set to NOR if you are using the stock mic. If you are using the MH-59, that setting should be set to RMT. Not setting #59 to RMT with the MH-59 will keep the additional functions from working.

Also important to remember is if you switch to the MH-59 mic or another mic from the default hand mic, you must go through the ALC alignment procedures in the manual for HF work. This will also help you get your mic gain settings correct with the new mic even if you aren't going to use HF.

73,

--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC
www.hamradio.hanklambert.com





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You probably already knew this, but check these menu items

Menu Mode 058 [MIC SCAN] should be set to ON
Menu Moce 059 [MIC Sel] should be set to NOR
Re: HAND MIKES NOT WORKING

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You probably already knew this, but check these menu items

Menu Mode 058 [MIC SCAN] should be set to ON
Menu Moce 059 [MIC Sel] should be set to NOR
Re: HAND MIKES NOT WORKING

 


I had a problem with the Yaesu mic with the touch tone pad on it.

It was getting RF into it.? A simple ferrite would fix it.
Re: HAND MIKES NOT WORKING

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Lock on??

On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:03 AM, RICH w3ek@... [FT-857] <FT-857@...> wrote:

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Having problems with the rig. Called Yeasu with the problem but no help. I know I have the menus correctly set.

Problem is with the stock mic and optional mic.

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Problem-

PTT works

ON-OFF button on mics work
That is all, none of the other buttons on mics work. UP-DOWN do not work

None of the other buttons on the face of mics work

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AnyHelp?????????????

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Thanks, Rich W3EK
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Try taking the mic off then run through a power up and off cycle.? I found my 857D and 3000 act up if I turn them on while the mic ptt is slightly depressed.? Can happen without realizing. Good luck.? Cliff W3KKO

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Re: Please confirm your request to join FT857

 

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Confirmed!

73, Wayne N5WAP
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On 6/24/2019 2:02 PM, 'w3ek@...' w3ek@... [FT-857] wrote:

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Confirm please, thanks W3EK@...


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Re: Please confirm your request to join FT857

 

Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier [Resolved]

 

My 857D works just fine with CAT cable connected to PC. RF can get in that cable though and mess up the unit. I have had to fully reset mine once due to RF blanking it out. Proper grounding and ferrite beads are your friends. William, N5WOI.?




On Saturday, June 22, 2019, 8:39 PM, 'Brian Donaldson' sv.takara@... [FT-857] wrote:

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Sorry, wrong thread. But thanks anyway. It solved my not accessing repeaters.

Thanks,

Brian D

KF6BL

SV Takara

From: Brian Donaldson [mailto:sv.takara@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 18:32
To: 'FT-857@...'
Subject: RE: [FT-857] Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier [Resolved]

Cliff, you are a genius. I don't care what anyone says about you.. Thank you.

That seems to be the only thing I did not try. Removing the CAT (either from the radio or the PC) fixed the issue. Now why didn't Yaesu put that into in the manual. Because no one bothered to put it in the test documents.

OK... so after all this time I am now able to access the repeater. It was not an antenna issue (I thought that all along because the HT was doing things the 857D was not). I was not a CTCSS deviation or level issue. It was a CAT cable connected to the PC that was the issue. If the PC is off then one does not need to remove the CAT cable. Or, if one wants to keep the CAT cable on wants to use the PC/Radio, then one need to go to menu item 20: CAT/LIN/TUN and change it to LIN or TUN.

Thanks again, Cliff. And again, thanks to everyone who has helped.

Thanks,

Brian D

KF6BL

SV Takara

From: FT-857@... [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 5:33
To: FT-857@...
Subject: RE: [FT-857] Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier

Try unplugging all plugs from the rear of the rig, not including power and your VHF antenna.. Turn the rig off, wait a minute, then back on. After checking that all your repeater settings are correct, try keying up the repeater at 5w. If using the HTs antenna on the 857D I'm not sure I'd go much over 5w. Anyway, my 857D, a 2016 model, would not hit a repeater with din plug inserted for some reason, but without that plug inserted it's fine. It also works fine on vhf/uhf while connected to the YT100 and Z11Pro 2 tuners, which of course is a different socket. Yaesu couldn't explain it. Also while doing this see if the beep tone changes between turning it on with and without the amp or ptt din plugged in. Mine does. Cliff W3KKO

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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 mmccloskey5527 wrote:

No, the PTT is not cabled to the amp. Right now I'm using the CAT/Linear miniDIN port with an RCA male plug connected to the amp Relay port for TX/GND keying. When the hand mic is used, the relay in the amp switches between TX and RX.

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch [SOLVED]

William Quillen
 

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Cliff/Pete,

That is a wild one, for sure.

The CAT attributes for the FT-857D have been a true ¡°source of adventure¡± for me of late. I recently began using the Auxiliary Serial ?port. The AUX Serial functionality is made available by reassigning the MIC jack to serve as a serial port.. The AUX Serial config allows me to use the primary CAT port (on the back of the radio) to control the FC-40 antenna tuner while the AUX Serial port enables things like TNC connections for the SCS P4 Dragon TNC. It also enables USB-based Rig control such as used by programs like JS8CALL. I tried a host of different cable/configuration schemes before finding a working solution to address all of my operational scenarios, and the big surprise to me was that the two interfaces are actually not ?exactly the same in terms of the pin assignments and their associated functions. What¡¯s more, it appears that, even if an interconnect solution might not work when it¡¯s adapted / connected to the AUX Serial port, it might work when the equivalent ?connection is made to the rear CAT jack. An example is the USB-to-Serial connection available in the SCU-17 ( a Yaesu / Vertex product ). RT Systems makes a USB-to-8PMD ¡°CAT¡± cable that seems to work pretty well.

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Finally, I can concur that the audible tone at transceiver start-up and shut-down does indeed change, somehow in relation to the CAT situation. My latest hunch is that the phenomena is linked to the CAT rate setting ¨C say, 4800 versus 9600.

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73,

Bill

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From: FT-857@... on behalf of pete pg.nikolic1@... [FT-857]
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:06:23 AM
To: FT-857@...
Subject: Re: [FT-857] [SOLVED] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch [SOLVED]
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On 22 Jun 2019 18:40:49 -0700
"sv.takara@... [FT-857]" wrote:

> Cliff, W3KKO, you are a genius. I don't care what anyone says about
> you. Thank you.
> That seems to be the only thing I did not try. Removing the CAT
> (either from the radio or the PC) fixed the issue. Now why didn't
> Yaesu put that into in the manual. Because no one bothered to put it
> in the test documents. OK... so after all this time I am now able to
> access the repeater. It was not an antenna issue (I thought that all
> along because the HT was doing things the 857D was not). I was not a
> CTCSS deviation or level issue. It was a CAT cable connected to the
> PC that was the issue.. If the PC is off then one does not need to
> remove the CAT cable. Or, if one wants to keep the CAT cable on wants
> to use the PC/Radio, then one need to go to menu item 20: CAT/LIN/TUN
> and change it to LIN or TUN. Thanks again, Cliff. And again, thanks
> to everyone who has helped. Thanks, Brian D KF6BL SV Takara
Hi ..

Interesting .
What operating system are you using , I run Arch Linux with the cat
lead plugged in all the time and have no problems at all .

I do not have a machine with Mickyshaft installed to test

Pete .
HAND MIKES NOT WORKING

 

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Sent from for Windows 10

Having problems with the rig. Called Yeasu with the problem but no help. I know I have the menus correctly set.

Problem is with the stock mic and optional mic.

?

Problem-

PTT works

ON-OFF button on mics work
That is all, none of the other buttons on mics work. UP-DOWN do not work

None of the other buttons on the face of mics work

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AnyHelp?????????????

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Thanks, Rich W3EK



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Re: 857D

Brian Donaldson
 

Cliff, it could be related to the USB port, or the computer, or even the CAT cable. Or, it could be the relationship of the CAT circuitry and the CTCSS processor. It could a host of things and I don't have any test equipment save a frequency counter and antenna analyzer. Regardless...



But thanks again for your insight. Even though you were responding to a different issue, it was the correct solution for my issue. Now that this is archived here I hope that it will be visible on the net for anyone else having a similar issue. B-Z



Thanks,

Brian D

KF6BL

SV Takara



From: FT-857@... [mailto:FT-857@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 18:04
To: FT-857@...
Subject: [FT-857] 857D





Brian
I even emailed a short video of the issue, including the changed beep tone, to Yaesu support. They had never seen it before and wanted the radio back. I said no after finding a YouTube or some blog that mentioned the issue and resolution. It took months of internet digging to find it. Anyway, glad your issue is resolved. The 857D is a heck of a rig, have fun with it!!!! Hope to hear you on the airwaves.
73 cliff W3KKO

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857D

 

Brian
I even emailed a short video of the issue, including the changed beep tone, to Yaesu support.? They had never seen it before and wanted the radio back. I said no after finding a YouTube or some blog that mentioned the issue and resolution.? It took months of internet digging to find it.? Anyway, glad your issue is resolved.? The 857D is a heck of a rig, have fun with it!!!!? Hope to hear you on the airwaves.
73 cliff W3KKO

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch [SOLVED]

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Windows 7. I am sure it has to do with the USB. But not sure what line is causing it. Not sure if I want to pursue anymore since it is working. LOL But maybe one day I will dissect the cable and see what might be the culprit.

Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
Re: FT-857D and a mobile amplifier

 

Problem solved, thank you everyone for your responses.

Some additional information that I should have disclosed in my original post:? Both the amplifier and FT857D had recently been moved to the rear of my vehicle and I had used the extension CAT cable to install the detachable head on a coffee cup mounting in the front,? On a recent check in to a net (without the amplifier switched on) I was told that my signal had a lot of RF in it.? I tried adding ferrites (Radio Shack rectangles) to the ends of both extension cables without any luck, and then finally moved the transceiver back to it's original position near the coffee cup holder where it wasn't necessary to use the extension cables.? A check in to a 40m phone net determined that I no longer had the RF on my signal, and upon powering up the amplifier, the O/L problem went away and I was able to transmit with the amp fully functional.? It might be premature to say that the extension CAT cable? and extension hand mic cable (one or both) were picking up RF that had something to do with the amplifier going into O/L as soon as the mic was keyed, but removing both of them solved the problem.??
Re: [SOLVED] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch [SOLVED]

pete
 

On 22 Jun 2019 18:40:49 -0700
"sv.takara@... [FT-857]" <FT-857@...> wrote:

Cliff, W3KKO, you are a genius. I don't care what anyone says about
you. Thank you.
That seems to be the only thing I did not try. Removing the CAT
(either from the radio or the PC) fixed the issue. Now why didn't
Yaesu put that into in the manual. Because no one bothered to put it
in the test documents. OK... so after all this time I am now able to
access the repeater. It was not an antenna issue (I thought that all
along because the HT was doing things the 857D was not). I was not a
CTCSS deviation or level issue. It was a CAT cable connected to the
PC that was the issue. If the PC is off then one does not need to
remove the CAT cable. Or, if one wants to keep the CAT cable on wants
to use the PC/Radio, then one need to go to menu item 20: CAT/LIN/TUN
and change it to LIN or TUN. Thanks again, Cliff. And again, thanks
to everyone who has helped. Thanks, Brian D KF6BL SV Takara
Hi ..

Interesting .
What operating system are you using , I run Arch Linux with the cat
lead plugged in all the time and have no problems at all .

I do not have a machine with Mickyshaft installed to test

Pete .
Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch

 

If you have a HF antenna connected, try it on the VHF side. It actually should work surprisingly well. Also have your HT on the input frequency to make sure your signal makes it out.?

Buzz

KD4CXI





On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 20:24, sv.takara@... [FT-857] wrote:

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I have read all the replies and have indeed started to build a 2M Vertical Dipole. So I ma not ruling out that it could be an antenna issue. However...

If a HT can hit a repeater 22 miles away with 1W in my shack, then in theory, the 857D with the same antenna attached should also be able to do this with 5W (minimum allowable power). Yes, the HT frame (not the human holding the radio as we absorb RF energy, not reflect it) is acting as the counterpoise to the antenna. So it goes to show that the frame of the 857D is greater in area than a HT. On top of that, I know that a cournterpoise is needed and I had one on when I was testing. Watt meter showed 4W output and SWR showed about 1.3:1.. It is possible that a common mode current is building up and preventing me a clean signal.

The radio is showing TEN and when I key the mic, the repeater input of 146.13MHz is shown. So as for programming I believe all the parameters are correct. Some specifics....

Power is provided by a 12VDC 22AH AGM battery. SOC on the battery is 80+% on key down. So there is ample power available.

As far as antennas are concerned, I do have an ICOM IC-707 with HF antenna aboard my boat. it works fine. It is just a 35' wire with tuner and the appropriate ground both wire and seawater. I do understand antennas.

With that in mind, I must assume that the radio is not at fault. I shall concentrate on the antenna. It should be finished tomorrow. I will let you know how it turns out.

Thanks for everyone's comments.

Brian D
KF6BL
S/V Takara
Re: [SOLVED] Re: FT-857D not breaking 2m repeater squelch [SOLVED]

Theo Marinos
 

As soon as I read this I recalled I had the same issue. I'm glad you managed to work it out.?


73
Theo
VK5IR

On Sun, 23 Jun. 2019, 12:20 pm sv.takara@... [FT-857], <FT-857@...> wrote:
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Cliff, W3KKO, you are a genius. I don't care what anyone says about you. Thank you.

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That seems to be the only thing I did not try. Removing the CAT (either from the radio or the PC) fixed the issue. Now why didn't Yaesu put that into in the manual. Because no one bothered to put it in the test documents.

?

OK... so after all this time I am now able to access the repeater. It was not an antenna issue (I thought that all along because the HT was doing things the 857D was not). I was not a CTCSS deviation or level issue. It was a CAT cable connected to the PC that was the issue. If the PC is off then one does not need to remove the CAT cable. Or, if one wants to keep the CAT cable on wants to use the PC/Radio, then one need to go to menu item 20: CAT/LIN/TUN and change it to LIN or TUN.

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Thanks again, Cliff. And again, thanks to everyone who has helped.

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Thanks,

Brian D

KF6BL

SV Takara
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