Welcome to the Daniel/Daniels surname group on groups.io
Hi Lucy,
??? Do you have any questions about how this works?
Best,
Kevin
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Cynthia Ann Daniel b. 1810 TN d. Abt. 1860 MO
Cynthia Ann was married to James Swanner in Marshall CountyTennessee in 1836. ? James Swanner died in 1842/43 in Wolf Island township, Mississippi County, MO (previously Scott County) Cynthia re-married in June 1844 in Scott County to William Bartlett. ?William Bartlett died in January/February 1848. As of 1853, Cynthia still went by the Bartlett name. I believe she died before the census of 1860 butI have no verification.
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Re: Cynthia Ann Daniel b. 1810 TN d. Abt. 1860 MO
Congratulations on being the first to post to the new Daniel group!
Have you checked to see if the county records are available for viewing at FamilySearch.org?
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Caroline County, Virginia Daniel group
My interest is primarily in the line of William Daniel who was born about 1680 and died in December 1764 or early January 1765. He died testate and his will was presented for probate on 10 January 1765, but most records in Caroline were lost during the Civil War. A group of 20 Daniel men have taken Y DNA tests at Family Tree DNA and resulting primary record research has proved that they descend from William Daniel 1680-1765. A write up of this research and information about the first three or four generations is available at:
The male Daniel line of William Daniel 16801765 was represented in Caroline County from 1728 until around 1800 by which time the Daniel name from this line disappeared in Caroline as these Daniel men moved west and south. An unrelated Daniel group which descends from James Daniel of Essex County, VA moved to Caroline County in the 1760s or early 1770s and male Daniels from that line were in Caroline after 1800.
Kevin Daniel
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Descendants of William and Frances O'Daniel of Stafford County, Province of Virginia
Hi, Kevin.
Thank you for setting up an alternative to the DANIEL-L at Rootsweb.
Here's to Daniel 开云体育 being rousing success.
My website:
Hurricane Michael knocked me off my stride.? Working to get caught up and will update the website soon.
Robert Louis Daniell
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Re: Welcome to the Daniel/Daniels surname group on groups.io
Kevin, I am hanging in there. ?Want to help if I can.
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On Jan 14, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Daniel via Groups.Io <kwqd@...> wrote:
?Hi Lucy,
??? Do you have any questions about how this works?
Best,
Kevin
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Martin Daniel Sr (ca 1750-1811) of Mecklenburg Co., VA
Thanks Kevin for setting this up!! ?
I’m still searching for the lineage of my Martin Daniel Sr of Mecklenburg Co., VA. ?He was born about 1750 and died in 1811 in Mecklenburg Co., VA where his will was probated. ?
I descend from his son Martin Daniel Jr who married Avarilla “Avey” Yancey. ?There are a few different Martin Daniel’s running around Mecklenburg Co., VA and Granville Co., NC. ?
Any help would be appreciated!
Charlie Rathbun
Knoxville, TN
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Basil/Bazel/etc Daniel ~ North Carolina to Arkansa via Tennessee and Illinois
Thank you Kevin for setting this up for us....still trying to get beyond Bazel/Basil Daniel who died about 1840 in Arkansas.
Berlene Jacques
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Capt. William Daniel of Middlesex Co., VA
Thank you, Kevin, for your continuing work. I just wanted to remind everyone that my first cousin Alfred David Daniel is in the Daniel DNA group and my 3rd cousin Jerry H. Daniel. They match completely on Y DNA. We have a 66 of 67 marker match with others going back to Capt. William and we descend from his son Robert. l hope it helps others connect. We believe that the mutation on one marker happened right at our Josiah Daniel b 1805 NC, son of James Key and Sarah Brown Daniel. This is understandable in that "volatile" markers can mutate. Cecil Daniels has a paper trail back to Capt. William and descends from another son of James Key and Sarah Brown Daniel. He is also in the DNA project. We have yet to find a scrap of paper in Caswell Co., NC, with Josiah's name on it, but have not found any other Daniel family with an unidentified son the right age to be our Josiah. Census records say that he was b in NC and parents b VA (that fits). The names of some of his children: James, Sarah, and William Brown Daniel would suggest a father named James and Brown from the mother's maiden name. We only had one day for research at the archives in Raleigh so don't know if we missed anything that might have placed Josiah there prior to moving to AL. So, anyone searching in NC, please let us know if you find anything with Josiah's name on it. Meanwhile, we trust that this is our connection.?
Georgia Daniel Cavanaugh
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I got a request from a woman named Donna Moore who is the founder of a web site . She queried me about the possibility of adding a link to her site to the "DNA Information Links" page of our web site. I am researching this site now, but wondered if anyone has heard of or used this site?
It appears to be a non-profit, informational site, but not very technical. There have been various requests over the years from different sites to add links from our site, but most were for profit sites so were rejected.
Thoughts on including a link to this site welcomed.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Capt. William Daniel of Middlesex Co., VA
So many ,with the same names ,it can be confusing . I am also doing some research on a Josiah Daniel he was born around 1756 d. 1830 ish he had a son Josiah born around 1809 they were in Rowan/Davie counties . The reason I am researching this group is a couple of months before my father passed (he was 97) we did an autosomal dna for him and he has , so far 6 matches that can be traced back to this Josiah's family. Three from a child of the elder Josiah's first wife (name unknown) and three from his second wife Priscilla Trent through his son Josiah. Ancestry's thru Lines shows that many trees on Ancestry miss attribute this Josiah with the Woodson Daniel group. Now to get in contact with the male descendants of this Josiah and get a couple to do y-dna to confirm (hopefully) which Daniel family they really belong to.?
? ?On y-dna genetic distance , I have a confirmed 5th cousin that is a GD of 5 at 111 (think he was 2 at 67) and another match that is 4 at 111 (was three at 67) who has to be at least one if not two generations farther back( maybe more ) to get a common ancestor . So far we don't know who our MRCA is but I think DNA? testing is helping us close in on it .?
? ?Keep up the good work .
On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 08:43:44 AM CST, <georgiac@...> wrote:
Thank you, Kevin, for your continuing work. I just wanted to remind everyone that my first cousin Alfred David Daniel is in the Daniel DNA group and my 3rd cousin Jerry H. Daniel. They match completely on Y DNA. We have a 66 of 67 marker match with others going back to Capt. William and we descend from his son Robert. l hope it helps others connect. We believe that the mutation on one marker happened right at our Josiah Daniel b 1805 NC, son of James Key and Sarah Brown Daniel. This is understandable in that "volatile" markers can mutate. Cecil Daniels has a paper trail back to Capt. William and descends from another son of James Key and Sarah Brown Daniel. He is also in the DNA project. We have yet to find a scrap of paper in Caswell Co., NC, with Josiah's name on it, but have not found any other Daniel family with an unidentified son the right age to be our Josiah. Census records say that he was b in NC and parents b VA (that fits). The names of some of his children: James, Sarah, and William Brown Daniel would suggest a father named James and Brown from the mother's maiden name. We only had one day for research at the archives in Raleigh so don't know if we missed anything that might have placed Josiah there prior to moving to AL. So, anyone searching in NC, please let us know if you find anything with Josiah's name on it. Meanwhile, we trust that this is our connection.?
Georgia Daniel Cavanaugh
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Hi Kevin,
From what I have seen on her site it is mostly informational concerning DNA testing.
I don't see why Ms. Moore would be interested in the Daniel DNA site as most of the data is submitted by those searching for family connection and not to order DNA testing as the other sites she has listed.? Unless she is interested in how the site is formatted.? In that case, a template should be used with "ghost" names attached.
Just my observation,
Berlene Jacques?
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Britton Daniel born 1814 - still searching for proof of parents
Thanks for setting this up Kevin. Your earlier work got me going on trying to find Britton’s ancestors using DNA, since we couldn’t find a paper trail. We believe his parents were John Daniel and Catherine Napier, but no proof yet. Thanks to FamilyTreeDNA, we learned that Britton is probably connected somehow to John Thomas Daniel (d1640), Edward Daniel (1760-1833), Nathaniel Daniel (1796-1864), William Jeremiah Daniel (1780-1850), James Daniel (1745-1821), but no idea how they connect. Britton is first found in Harlan County, Ky then Clay County, KY and finally in Madison County, KY. His name is sometimes spelled differently (Brittain, Britten, etc.). Any suggestions or corrections are appreciated.?
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Re: Britton Daniel born 1814 - still searching for proof of parents
Hi?Jerry,
I have a Nathan "Nathaniel" Daniel b. ca. 1795 possibly in Tennessee d. December 19, 1864 in Shelby Co., Illinois.? Married Priscilla Stewart/Stuart
Also
Jeremiah "Jerome" "Jerry" Daniel b. ca. 1794 Washington County, Tennessee d. June 2, 1880 Newton Co., Arkansas.? He married Susannah "Susan" Self in Illinois.
Both men are sons of Bazel/Basil/Bazzel et. al., Daniel who was b ca.1775 N.C. d. ca. 1843 Carroll County, AR
Now through Family Tree Family Finder I also somehow connect to William Jeremiah Daniel b. ca. 1782 in Buncombe Co., N.C. d. ca. 1850 in Union Co., GA who married Sarah Self (is she an ancestor of Susannah "Susan" Self?) possibly in Georgia.
My connection is proven through DNA to Job (keith Ash) and Francis (Hala Mae Jane Daniel) Daniel, sons of William Jeremiah and Sarah Self
I also share DNA with Dan Rogers.??
His ancestors were Thomas Daniel b.ca. 1795 Tennessee d. ca. 1850 Williamson County, Illinois.? Thomas married Nancy Hardige.
I have not been able to connect all these Daniel men with one another.
Are you Jeremy Daniel on FTFF?
My line:?
Georgia Esther Daniel GM
Amon Filander Daniel GGF
William David Daniel 2xGF
Amon Daniel 3XGF
Bazel Daniel 4XGF
Berlene Jacques
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Daniel*S in 1800 Pendleton District, South Carolina
I?spent some time looking at the above census record and found the following:
Jeremiah Danube (sic) whose household was:
2 males under 10
3 males between 10 - 16
1 male over 45
1 female between 10 - 16
1 female 26 to 45
Barsel Danude (sic) (Basel/Bazel)
1 male under 10
1 male 16 - 25
1 female 16 - 25
William Smith? over 45 could he be an in-law?????
William Daniel
1 male 16 - 25
1 female under 10
1 female 16 - 25
The neighbors to the above were the following SELF families:? Spencer, John, Levi, Francis and Ryley (Riley)
I believe that William Daniel is the same William P Daniel who won a grant in the 1805 Georgia Land Lottery.? Hence my connection to the Georgia Daniel line.
In addition these Daniel persons were also granted land in Georgia:? Aaron, Isaac, James K, Julius, Mathew/Matthew, Prescilla (a widow?),Thomas, Wiley (is this Ryley of the 1800 census record?)??
Daniel men NOT granted land were: John and Nathan?
Does anyone have connection to the above persons?
Thanks hope this may help someone,
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Re: Daniel*S in 1800 Pendleton District, South Carolina
In response to your request to find any connections to the
listed Daniel individuals I will list and show the relationship.?
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James Kelso Daniel
1778–1845
Birth 4 APR 1778
? Prince Edward,
Virginia, United States
Death 3 MAY 1845
? Greene, Georgia,
United States
Facts
Birth
4 Apr
1778 ? Prince Edward, Virginia, United
States
Marriage
9 Sep
1805 ? Prince Edwards, Virginia, United
States
Marriage
12 Apr
1820 ? Wilkes, Georgia,
USA
1820
Marriage
12 Apr 1820
? Wilkes, Georgia, United States
Residence
1820 ? Capt Awtreys
District, Greene, Georgia, United State
Residence
1830 ? Greene, Georgia,
United States
Residence
1 June
1840 ? Greene, Georgia, United
States
Death
3 May
1845 ? Greene, Georgia, United
States
Burial
Penfield, Greene County, Georgia, US
Probate
7 Jul
1845 ? Greene, Georgia
Occupation
General merchandise Madison,
GA
Family
Parents
Spouse & Children
Spouse
Spouse
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Thomas Daniel 1784–1825
Birth 1784 ? Prince Edward, Virginia,
USA
Death 1825
4th Great
Uncle
Facts
Birth
1784 ? Prince Edward,
Virginia, USA
land Lottery 1807
Marriage
10 Jun
1818 ? Wilkes, Georgia
1825
Family
Parents
Spouse
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If you have any more
questions please let me know.
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Cheers,
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Richard C Daniel
Gainesville,
Georgia
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Subject: [Daniel] Daniel*S in 1800 Pendleton District, South
Carolina
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I spent some time looking at the above census record and found the
following:
Jeremiah Danube (sic) whose household was:
2 males under
10
3 males between 10 - 16
1 male over 45
1 female between 10 - 16
1
female 26 to 45
Barsel Danude (sic) (Basel/Bazel)
1 male under
10
1 male 16 - 25
1 female 16 - 25
William Smith? over 45
could he be an in-law?????
William Daniel
1 male 16 - 25
1
female under 10
1 female 16 - 25
The neighbors to the above were the
following SELF families:? Spencer, John, Levi, Francis and Ryley
(Riley)
I believe that William Daniel is the same William P Daniel who won a
grant in the 1805 Georgia Land Lottery.? Hence my connection to the Georgia
Daniel line.
In addition these Daniel persons were also granted land in
Georgia:? Aaron, Isaac, James K, Julius, Mathew/Matthew, Prescilla (a
widow?),Thomas, Wiley (is this Ryley of the 1800 census record?)?
Daniel men NOT granted land were: John and Nathan
Does anyone
have connection to the above persons?
Thanks hope this may help
someone,
?
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-- Richard C Daniel
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Lineage of Woodson M Daniel
Hello,?
I am new to the Daniel Surname DNA Project and to this group. I am trying to trace my line. I can trace it back to one Woodson M Daniel with primary sources. He lived c. 1830 to after 1860 and was married to Susan Elizabeth Kidd and they were from Knoxville, TN. I am descended through their son Marcus Rosencrans Daniel. I am trying to trace their line further back. I have looked at several public trees on Ancestry.com and Familysearch.com. The line seems fairly clear back to a Captain James Daniel from VA who reportedly lived 1709-1761. But there seems to be confusion because there were multiple James Daniels from VA. I learned about the Daniel DNA Project through this page for one of the James Daniels.??Perhaps I will need to do a Y DNA test to confirm who I am descended from. But I dont know how that works. Is there a database of Daniel DNA profiles my test can be compared to? Has anyone already sorted out this line from Woodson M or Marcus R back to the correct James Daniel? Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
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Re: Lineage of Woodson M Daniel
Hi David,
? Welcome to the Daniel surname list at groups.io. This list is for all queries about the Daniel, and spelling variants families, not just DNA related queries. Hopefully, someone on the list will be familiar with your Daniels and give you some help.
Taking a Y DNA test would not be helpful for you since Y DNA is passed only from father to son, so would only work if you were a male Daniel. If you can connect to any male Daniels, however, they could take a Y DNA test to prove you line.
Autosomal DNA is only reliable for about 3-4 generations, due to the increasing number of ancestors in each generation we go back and the decreasing amount of autosomal DNA, if any, that we get from our distant ancestors.
If a male Daniel from your line has taken a Y DNA test, they will be able to see the other Daniels who they have matches to. If you do find a male Daniel from your line who has tested, you can also view their results as part of the group of Daniel males who have tested on the Results page of the Daniel DNA web site at , if you know their kit #.
We are happy to help if you have any questions.
Best,
Kevin
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Re: Lineage of Woodson M Daniel
?Hello David , I second what Kevin said, if you have or can find a male descendant in your line to do a y-dna test that would be helpful ,it will show you, possibly which family of Daniel's you are connected to. Concerning Ancestry family trees , when you get into that time period records are few and far between and some individuals like Capt. James Daniel have been researched fairly well and have more records associated with them,the problem arises when people make assumptions about relatedness and tack their family tree onto another without confirmation. It's something we all struggle with. I have my dad's autosomal dna on Ancestry DNA and I look at Ancestry's "Thru Lines" and several matches show a connection to Capt James Daniel or Elizabeth Woodson, but I'm fairly sure that's not the case,based on my own y-dna test.?
? ? Just be patient , as more people test you may find a connection,and as always double check everything and don't assume anything.?
? ? ?Wishing you great success in your search?
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Kevin Daniel
Jerry Daniel
Jack Danel