Makes sense.
Any chance for an enhancement down the road?? It would make the software that much more useful, especially for folks who aren't into formatting APRS packets.? If nothing else, having APRSIS32 do the formatting would add value by sanitizing the traffic going out over the APRS network.
Greg? KO6TH
Lynn Deffenbaugh via groups.io wrote:
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The detailed explanation is to quell questions about the telemetry that APRSIS32 already sends.?? And my strange encoding of the actual values that show up in the aprs.fi graphs.
Also, to avoid questions about why APRSIS32 is sending messages to itself when it is actually sending the messages that define the telemetry values.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 7/28/2024 9:23 PM, Greg D wrote:
Ha, ok. That explains why I can't find it.? Curious, then, why the detailed explanation about how the overall telemetry packet formatting and decoding in APRS-IS? That seems to suggest there is a way for one to have APRSIS32 feed it.
Lynn, if you're looking for something else to enhance APRSIS32, this might be a good one.? Perhaps leverage the method used for reporting weather by having the data source periodically update a "telemetrynow.txt" file?? Knock that out in an afternoon, no?
Greg? KO6TH
Lynn Deffenbaugh via groups.io wrote:
APRSIS32 only sends internal telemetry on battery charging and GPS statistics.?? It doesn't currently support an external telemetry source.? Remember the original roots of APRSIS32 was APRSISCE on Windows Mobile.?? I implemented telemetry of parameters interesting to the phone user.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 7/28/2024 2:02 PM, Greg D wrote:
For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry from an external source?
I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
Looking at I see that there are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from? I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
Unusually baffled on this,
Greg? KO6TH
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The detailed explanation is to quell questions about the telemetry that APRSIS32 already sends.?? And my strange encoding of the actual values that show up in the aprs.fi graphs.
Also, to avoid questions about why APRSIS32 is sending messages to itself when it is actually sending the messages that define the telemetry values.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 7/28/2024 9:23 PM, Greg D wrote: Ha, ok. That explains why I can't find it.? Curious, then, why the detailed explanation about how the overall telemetry packet formatting and decoding in APRS-IS?? That seems to suggest there is a way for one to have APRSIS32 feed it.
Lynn, if you're looking for something else to enhance APRSIS32, this might be a good one.? Perhaps leverage the method used for reporting weather by having the data source periodically update a "telemetrynow.txt" file?? Knock that out in an afternoon, no?
Greg? KO6TH
Lynn Deffenbaugh via groups.io wrote:
APRSIS32 only sends internal telemetry on battery charging and GPS statistics.?? It doesn't currently support an external telemetry source.? Remember the original roots of APRSIS32 was APRSISCE on Windows Mobile.?? I implemented telemetry of parameters interesting to the phone user.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 7/28/2024 2:02 PM, Greg D wrote:
For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry from an external source?
I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
Looking at I see that there are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from?? I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
Unusually baffled on this,
Greg? KO6TH
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Ha, ok.? That explains why I can't find it.? Curious, then, why the detailed explanation about how the overall telemetry packet formatting and decoding in APRS-IS?? That seems to suggest there is a way for one to have APRSIS32 feed it.
Lynn, if you're looking for something else to enhance APRSIS32, this might be a good one.? Perhaps leverage the method used for reporting weather by having the data source periodically update a "telemetrynow.txt" file?? Knock that out in an afternoon, no?
Greg? KO6TH
Lynn Deffenbaugh via groups.io wrote:
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APRSIS32 only sends internal telemetry on battery charging and GPS statistics.?? It doesn't currently support an external telemetry source.? Remember the original roots of APRSIS32 was APRSISCE on Windows Mobile.?? I implemented telemetry of parameters interesting to the phone user.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 7/28/2024 2:02 PM, Greg D wrote:
For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry from an external source?
I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
Looking at I see that there are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from?? I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
Unusually baffled on this,
Greg? KO6TH
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Or feed it to APRSIS32 as an AGW or KISS over TCP/IP packet. It would "appear" to come from an RF portand so APRSIS32 would have to be configured to pass it onto APRS-IS.
On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 05:51:06 PM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
And if you have sufficient coding talent to gather and format data from
the charge controller into a data pipe, you've got enough expertise to
read APRS101.PDF along with and
roll your own direct APRS-IS-feeding telemetry station, no need for
APRSIS32 capabilities.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 7/28/2024 2:02 PM, Greg D wrote:
> For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the
> usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry
> from an external source?
>
> I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that
> reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD
> display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via
> a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data
> from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does
> one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
>
> Looking at I see that there
> are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how
> to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to
> read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the
> General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from??
> I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
>
> Unusually baffled on this,
>
> Greg? KO6TH
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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And if you have sufficient coding talent to gather and format data from the charge controller into a data pipe, you've got enough expertise to read APRS101.PDF along with and roll your own direct APRS-IS-feeding telemetry station, no need for APRSIS32 capabilities.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 7/28/2024 2:02 PM, Greg D wrote: For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry from an external source?
I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
Looking at I see that there are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from?? I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
Unusually baffled on this,
Greg? KO6TH
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APRSIS32 only sends internal telemetry on battery charging and GPS statistics.?? It doesn't currently support an external telemetry source.? Remember the original roots of APRSIS32 was APRSISCE on Windows Mobile.?? I implemented telemetry of parameters interesting to the phone user.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 7/28/2024 2:02 PM, Greg D wrote: For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry from an external source?
I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
Looking at I see that there are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from?? I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
Unusually baffled on this,
Greg? KO6TH
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For some reason I'm not coming up with an answer after grazing the usual sources...? How does one configure APRSIS32 to send telemetry from an external source?
I've got a solar / battery system in the Shack with an Arduino that reads info from the Victron charge controller, driving a small LCD display.? It occurs to me that it should be easy to pipe that data via a serial connection to the PC.? It's already set up to output the data from my weather station (via WeeWx to the WxNow.txt file). How does one get similar data into the Telemetry feed of APRSIS?
Looking at I see that there are configuration packets that need to be sent for the IS to know how to format the data, but I don't see how one configures APRSIS32 to read and send the actual data.? The "Telemetry" box is checked on the General configuration, yes, but where does it fetch the data from?? I'm missing a key piece to the puzzle.
Unusually baffled on this,
Greg? KO6TH
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Re: Station movement alarm like ui-view
OK, thanks Lynn for your answer.?
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Re: Station movement alarm like ui-view
Nope, sorry, APRSIS32 doesn't currently support that.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 7/25/2024 11:58 AM, mbahicruz wrote:
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Hi:
One ham, has asked to me, how do with aprsis32 the function
of station movement alarm that the old venerable ui-view do. (
and QTH for Mac too ).
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The idea is define one circle area of x km o miles, and if
one beacon of a mobile RF station is in the area, the
application create an alert sound, and in this window, display
de callsing, heard, last position, last move, and status
messages.
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Searching in the help manual I don't find how to do this with
aprsis32, the most similar I find is frequency monitor. I don't
know if it is a feature that aprsis32 don?t have.?
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Thanks for the help in advance.
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73s
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Station movement alarm like ui-view
Hi:
One ham, has asked to me, how do with aprsis32 the function of station movement alarm that the old venerable ui-view do. ( and QTH for Mac too ).
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The idea is define one circle area of x km o miles, and if one beacon of a mobile RF station is in the area, the application create an alert sound, and in this window, display de callsing, heard, last position, last move, and status messages.
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Searching in the help manual I don't find how to do this with aprsis32, the most similar I find is frequency monitor. I don't know if it is a feature that aprsis32 don?t have.?
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Thanks for the help in advance.
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73s
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Re: Undefined NWS messages?
Yes, that seems to be the new development (little d). Currently working with the station that is gating the NWS traffic to resolve it (in Direwolf). Multiple clients in the area are responding to the ACK request, so there is a lot of QRM, especially with multiple alerts active.
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Re: Undefined NWS messages?
Someone is directing messages FROM AKQFFS and AKQSMW directly TO
K4VBX and your receive message buffer in the radio is full, so the
radio is answering with a reject.?? Check the radio's messages
list and you should see those NWS message sources listed.
What is your IGate's callsign-SSID?
Check your FilterTest log if you are using custom filters to gate
these weather packets from -IS to RF.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?? Nothing has changed in this area in
a LONG time so it likely has nothing to do with the latest
Development version.
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With the new Development version, I have noticed a peculiar
problem. When I receive a NWS warning object over IS, APRSIS32
commands the D710 to transmit the respective messages as
follows:
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K4VBX>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::AKQFFS ? :rej0
K4VBX>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::AKQSMW ? :rej0
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I have restarted the program without activating the IGate,
and it still does this. I have tried disabling messages in the
IS port and the RF port, but this makes no difference. I do not
see the packets in the Igate Test Filter. Strangely they are not
in the Transmit log either. However, the TOCALL tells me
something is commanding the D710 to create the packet, and I am
connected to the D710 in APRS mode. To be sure, I disabled all
digipeat options on my D710. Running several logs actively to
try to narrow this down. Any thoughts?
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Re: Undefined NWS messages?
On further inspection, this is not an APRSIS32 problem. I realize this a message rejection. However, it is a new observation that the NWS message warnings are requesting ACK.
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With the new Development version, I have noticed a peculiar problem. When I receive a NWS warning object over IS, APRSIS32 commands the D710 to transmit the respective messages as follows:
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K4VBX>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::AKQFFS ? :rej0
K4VBX>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::AKQSMW ? :rej0
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I have restarted the program without activating the IGate, and it still does this. I have tried disabling messages in the IS port and the RF port, but this makes no difference. I do not see the packets in the Igate Test Filter. Strangely they are not in the Transmit log either. However, the TOCALL tells me something is commanding the D710 to create the packet, and I am connected to the D710 in APRS mode. To be sure, I disabled all digipeat options on my D710. Running several logs actively to try to narrow this down. Any thoughts?
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Re: filter certain NWS objects
Glen,
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Perhaps you have already figured out a solution, but here is mine. I configured my IGate filter to only transmit the multiline objects instead of the NWS message-formatted warnings (which don't contain any human text, only county and zone FIPS codes). The multiline objects are recognizable (at least on all my Kenwood radios that I tested) to any graphical APRS interface. The message-formatted warnings only highlight a county or zone on an interface configured to show those county/zone warnings. It also cuts down dupes since the messages are formatted as NWS-wrn and NWS_wrn. Not sure why.?
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I would set mine up as follows to eliminate the flood warnings. The IGate filter is :
b/AKQ* +m/40 -o/AKQFF*
My NWS office is AKQ (Wakefield, VA). Using a radius filter passes only objects with a defined location to eliminate the message format warnings. Your mileage (err....kilometers) may vary. The negative o filters out flash flood warnings and statements.
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Re: Decode APRS packets in real time
Try bringing up the Enables / View Logs /
Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it.? See what that might
show you.? Hopefully you're using a Simply(KISS) type port for
your KPC3??? The KISS type port is only for older Kenwood APRS
Radios initially in TNC mode.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 6/26/2024 4:31 PM, Rick N9ITW wrote:
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I am still trying to find the ins and outs of the program.? Is
there a way to actually monitor RF and decode packets in real
time?? I am running a KPC3 (not plus) in KISS mode.
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Decode APRS packets in real time
I am still trying to find the ins and outs of the program.? Is there a way to actually monitor RF and decode packets in real time?? I am running a KPC3 (not plus) in KISS mode.
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I have used a few different Bluetooth modules connected to the radio serial interface.
I've connected HC05 and HC08 as well as the much older Roving Network RN41 and RN42 boards.
My Byonics MTT4B (before their Bluetooth module was offered) has an HC05 board in place of the MAX232 chip with the secondary (GPS) pins pass through.? This allows a TTL GPS module to connect on the 6-pin DIN.
NOTE: This is serial data, NOT audio.? APRSIS32 does not accept audio to decode.?
? ? ? ? ? ? That would require Direwolf, AGWpe, or such software which may be able to take Bluetooth audio input.
When creating a new RF port, the device popup offers <TCP/IP>, <Bluetooth>, or <Serial>.
IF your Bluetooth connection has been paired and allows SSP (as Lynn stated), choose <Bluetooth> and you should see the device in the list.
Another "catch" is that newer Bluetooth (my HC08 Bluetooth V4 BLE protocol) have some strange behavior.? Many times they create 2 separate COMM interfaces to the computer.? One is bi-direction (which you need) while the other is receive only.? This has caused some problems that take a bit of troubleshooting, but they still work.
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Re: Digipeater KISS <> VARA APRS
APRSIS32 does not support cross-port transmissions.? If you get
really creative, you can accomplish this with 2 instances, but I
wouldn't call it a digipeater, but a cross-band packet repeater.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 6/26/2024 7:43 AM, Jose Manuel ea8ee
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I would like to use digipeater using two ports vara
and kiss. How would I have to configure the xml file so that rf
2m traffic goes out to rf 10m vara and vice versa?
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